True but in someways Nepal is worse considering their total dependency on us. We should have kicked out a few of their people who enjoy life in India.
Diplomatic talks are different than PM going and kissing ass. We can continue talking and doing "Aman ka Tamasha" but not signal weakness by sending our PM.
I don't understand. Why tie them up? Why not shoot them? Why was the SP let go? Suspicious.
There seems to be a misunderstanding here, as to what it is I am saying. I am not a pacifist, I believe that being encircled by hostile countries is the worst way to live. It impedes our ability to project any force beyond our borders, on the contrary, we become sitting ducks. On a fundamental level you and I are saying the same thing : Pakistan needs to be fractured. Where we differ is that you seem to believe that the magnetic force of the Umma is invincible and I think that it is penetrable. After all we could accomplish Bangladesh only after engineering a rift in their so-called Umma. All I am saying is that their bonds are not unbreakable, we must strive to further their rifts. After all, Shias and Sunnis are fighting amognst each other are they not? Kurds are fighting for independence, are they not? My point being that we overlook a great opportunity when we look at them as a homogeneous group. They are willing to serve each others heads on the platter if only you are willing to engage them on the basis of their differences not their similarities.
I don't believe their Ummah is impenetrable. Its more that we don't seem to be interested in or able to penetrate it sufficiently. Only economic carrot will never be enough, what works in this world is force. Besides, you can't and musn't rely on breaking their ummah. That's just inviting disaster given their penchant for back stabbing. Work with the likes of Israel for mutual self interest against these jihadi nations.
That's what I said in my post.
Many times worse? Are you serious? Mumbai is the commercial capital of India. How did it not matter? Also, how can you compare hundreds dead including police officers plus an NSG commando with a couple of soldiers dead?
I think it was the other way around when the PM went there. He went there without any prior information or without any valid Visas. I think this made the pakis look weak, not us. Also, it put India in a better position as compared to pakis. Now would be a good time to strike their training camps as the world has seen that we were keen to talk but pakis f*cked up.
Hard vs soft target. Quality vs quantity.
Really guys!! You have come down to this level talking about visas!!
Let's not forget that there was an Iranian revolution post 1975 that has altered their strategic view. Iran views Pakistan as a Sunni pawn in the hands of Sunni Saudi Arabia. If you notice carefully there's friction going on between Iran and Pakistan, with both firing mortars into each other's territory multiple times in 2015. If you also notice, Iran has allowed us to build a strategic port, which it wouldn't have, pre-revolution. If you also notice, Iran offered us deferred payments option to buy their oil when both Iran and India were being bullied by USA.
It makes us look weak, doesn't make the attack worse than Mumbai. Choose your words right.
There were 120 people with the PM. Also, Sharif was busy in a family wedding.
Also, look at the bright side like I said in that post. Now at least the world has seen PM go to pak and initiate talks. It gives us an upper hand to strike. If we strike now, we can reason with the world that we were ready to talk but had to suffer with this kind of cowardly attack.
Wait and be happy if something happens!! I highly doubt any action will be taken.
Depends on your definition of worse.
Don't be so harsh on yourself. From the current info, it does not seem like they were able to go in or anything. Also, at the end of day any fool can go and blow himself up in front of IAF or any other military base and that does not really count as infiltration.
That's one crucial info I am still not clear on. Did the scum get into the base compound or not? If not, where are they holed up that the ops have been going for 10+ hours? I am sure there are delays since our forces always try to capture atleast some of these scum alive.
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