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Weapon installation of frigate "Tag" has begun

KALININGRAD (BNS): At the Baltic Shipyard yantar in Kaliningrad, the first of the three warship missile frigate "Tag" ( "Saber") is installed by weapons on Friday, a media report said.

" Experts have begun the installation of two torpedo tubes on the ship which was launched on November 27, Devices produced in Russia form the basis of an anti-missile weapons frigates of Project 11356, which also includes two jet bombometnyh installation RBU-6000 and anti-helicopter," Itar-Tass quoted secretary Sergei Mikhailov of the plant as saying.

"Installing the weapons on board the frigate is in accordance with the construction schedule of the ship," Mikhailov added.

BRAHMOS supersonic cruise missile has been installed in the frigate, the report said.

An overall expenditure of 1.5 billion dollars is spent for the construction the three Indian frigates, which will be delivered by the end of year 2012.

Three units of the frigate, INS Talwar, INS Trishul and INS Tabar are already constructed by Russian shipyard for Indian Navy

Weapon installation of frigate "Tag" has begun :: Brahmand.com

sorry editorial mistake, its INS Teg
 

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Talwar Class Frigate Undergoes Sea Trials To Join navy



Talwar Class Frigate Undergoes Sea Trials To Join navy Friday, May 25, 2012

A Talwar-class frigate being built for the Indian Navy at the Yantar Shipyard in Russia's Kaliningrad exclave departed Thursday for sea trials. A Talwar-class frigate being built for the Indian Navy at the Yantar Shipyard in Russia's Kaliningrad exclave departed Thursday for sea trials.

The Tarkash is the second in a series of three frigates built under a $1.6-billion contract with India.

The first frigate, the Teg, was delivered to India in April 2012, while the third, the Trikand, is still under construction.

"The warship sailed from Kaliningrad to Baltiysk on Thursday. The first stage of sea trials is scheduled to start at the end of May," Yantar spokesman Sergei Mikhailov said.

The spokesman said the frigate would be ready for delivery to the Indian Navy in October.

The new frigates are each armed with eight BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles.

They are also equipped with a 100-mm gun, a Shtil surface-to-air missile system, two Kashtan air-defence gun or missile systems, two twin 533-mm torpedo launchers and an anti-submarine warfare helicopter.

Russia has previously built three Talwar class frigates for India -- the INS Talwar, INS Trishul and INS Tabar.
 

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thats great IN is really growing fast!

And very effectively. These fitted with Brahmos are very lethal. Getting our 2nd aircraft in dec 12, shivalik class stealth vessels, our nuclear sub Arihant and next to follow Arindam, with class indigenious missiles like K 15, .... Navy is Effectively and Speedily changing to a lethal force.... No doubt.
 

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re: Talwar Class Stealth Frigates: News & Discussion

Wow. Looks like Russia has managed to keep to schedule for once.
 

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Russia is going to get a fresh order of building three more Talwar-class stealth frigates for India later this year which is likely to be worth $3 billion. The frigates have substantially enhanced Indian Navy's firepower in the region mainly because of their stealth capabilities.

Knowledgeable sources told RIR that the Indians have already orally conveyed their in-principle decision to Russia to construct three more Talwar-class frigates. A formal contract is likely to be signed after Russia delivers to India the third and final Talwar-class stealth frigate INS Trikand, being built at the Yantar shipyard in Russia. The delivery is expected in June 2013.

The game-changer aspect of the Talwar class frigates is its stealth technology and a special hull design. These features enable the Talwar class frigates to be extremely useful in a wide range of missions like finding and eliminating enemy submarines and large surface ships. The Talwar-class frigates are the first Indian Navy warships to have stealth features.

What the Fresh Deal May Entail

Sources in the Indian defence establishment said the mood is quite upbeat about the successful Talwar-class frigates experiment and once the current cycle gets completed after the delivery of INS Trikand, the Indian Navy will take a call on issuing a formal order to Russia.



Source: Rossiyskaya Gazeta

The new set of frigates will be more technologically advanced and each of the next three Talwar-class frigates will be equipped with BrahMos missiles. The existing Talwar-class boats and the upcoming INS Trikand are not BrahMos-equipped because they were designed before the BrahMos naval variant could be developed.

Therefore the greatest USP of the upcoming order for three more Talwar-class frigates would be that for the first time these frigates will be fitted with BrahMos. "This is the single most important reason why the Russians don't really have to worry whether they are going to get this order or not," a source said on condition of anonymity.

Likely irritants

It is a question of when, not if, Russia would be getting the fresh order for the Talwar-class frigates. The Indians would pitch for inclusion of a financial penalties clause for Russian failure to meet delivery deadlines. The Indians are unhappy that the Russians invariably fail to meet the delivery deadlines and eventually jack up the prices too.

The same problem has been witnessed in the Talwar-class frigates episode. Though the boats are doing well, the delivery deadline was pushed back by one year or so for all the vessels. Even INS Trikand was scheduled to be delivered to India by April 2012.

Russia will have to streamline its procedures and remove recurring problems of delays and price hikes. In December 2010, Russian shipbuilding plant Yantar had asked Russia's state arms exporter, Rosoboronexport, for an additional $100 million to complete construction of the three frigates for the Indian Navy. However, in this case it was an internal problem relating to VAT refund and the Russians this time did not jack up the already negotiated price.

Staggered Payment

Another good thing from the Russian point of view is that it would be a government-to-government dealing wherein floating of global tender will not be required.

Stung by the Agusta Westland VVIP helicopters scandal, the Indian Ministry of Defence is likely to stipulate a stringent and transparent payment schedule. In the case of Agusta Westland deal, the MoD was flustered when it realized that only India stood to lose if it were to scrap the chopper deal because the Italian company had been paid more than fifty percent of the total amount though just about 33 percent of the work had been done.

Therefore, the contract for the new deal would focus on staggered payments after a mutually agreeable advance payment is made.

India had awarded a $1.6 billion contract to the Yantar shipyard in 2006 to build three modified Talwar class for the Indian Navy. The final trials of INS Trikand have already started in the Baltic Sea. Yantar shipyard spokesman Sergei Mikhailov has been quoted in a recent RIA Novosti report as saying that INS Trikand was cleared for final state trials on April 4, 2013 which should be completed by this month end.

The Indian Navy got a major fillip to its firepower with the arrival of its latest acquisition INS Tarkash at Mumbai on December 27, 2012. Built by the Yantar Shipyard, Kaliningrad, Russia, INS Tarkash was second of three project 1135.6 (follow-on Talwar class) ships ordered by Indian Navy, the first being INS Teg which joined the fleet in June 2012.

What Makes Talwar Class Frigates Formidable

These ships, a modification of Krivak III class Russian frigates, are designed to carry and operate one heavy duty early warning helicopter which can provide over-the-horizon targeting. The Talwar-class frigates can also have the indigenously built Dhruv light combat helicopter.

The frigate's efficacy in anti-submarine warfare can be gauged by the fact that its RPK-8 rocket system has a firing range from 600 to 4300 metres and the depth of engagement of up to 1000 metres.

Its combat data system independently generates combat missions based on situation analysis, determines optimal number of missile firings, displays information on the state of ship-borne weaponry and transmits data to protection systems.

The Talwar-class frigate is armed with a new 3M-54 Klub attack anti-ship system with a vertical missile launcher. This anti-ship system is an 8.22 meters (27 ft) long missile using active radar guidance with a range of 220 kilometres. It is a three-stage missile in which the terminal stage reaches supersonic velocity (Mach 2.9) when it is approximately 20 km (12 miles) from its target.

The writer is a New Delhi-based journalist-author and a strategic affairs analyst.

India to spend $3 billion for 3 more Talwar-class frigates | Russia & India Report
 

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Why ----ing $3 billion for 3 frigates when we paid $1.6 billion last time?
Moreover why not go for more Shivalik Class frigates?
 

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Sound like Corruption involvement..

We successfully made Shivalik class and now we are not funding nor giving orders nor upgrading ship yards but trying to import more of these..
Which shipyard is free?
 

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Where Shivalik constructed before ?
All Indian yards have their plates full IIRC. Shivalik is followed by Project 17A. 7 ships I think.

India also has its Kolkata class destroyers under Project 15A and to be followed up with 15B. Indian yards don't have any spare capacity.
 

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Let me, get into details >>

Mazagon dock which is now stuck with Kolkata class vessels..
Cochin Shipyard is currently building India's first indigenuous Aircraft Carrier..
Garden Reach Shipbuilders & Engineers Limited is stuck with kamorta class corvette

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1. None are upgraded..
2. Problems are still unsolved no solution yet passed for stuck up projects, Ignored at best..
3. No orders are issued as the shipyards do have ability to do simultaneously projects..

All Indian yards have their plates full IIRC. Shivalik is followed by Project 17A. 7 ships I think.
 

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Let me, get into details >>

Mazagon dock which is now stuck with Kolkata class vessels..
Cochin Shipyard is currently building India's first indigenuous Aircraft Carrier..
Garden Reach Shipbuilders & Engineers Limited is stuck with kamorta class corvette

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1. None are upgraded..
2. Problems are still unsolved no solution yet passed for stuck up projects, Ignored at best..
3. No orders are issued as the shipyards do have ability to do simultaneously projects..
Project 15A, 15B, 17, 17A, IAC. We really have no spare capacity
 

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