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Show us some proof about this claim...
That is true. Americans said they had no opinion on Iraq and Kuwaits relations and considered it an internal Arab issue. Please see below transcripts from meeting between Saddam and US Ambassador -

July 25, 1990 – Presidential Palace – Baghdad

U.S. Ambassador Glaspie – I have direct instructions from President Bush to improve our relations with Iraq. We have considerable sympathy for your quest for higher oil prices, the immediate cause of your confrontation with Kuwait. (pause) As you know, I lived here for years and admire your extraordinary efforts to rebuild your country. We know you need funds. We understand that, and our opinion is that you should have the opportunity to rebuild your country. (pause) We can see that you have deployed massive numbers of troops in the south. Normally that would be none of our business, but when this happens in the context of your threat s against Kuwait, then it would be reasonable for us to be concerned. For this reason, I have received an instruction to ask you, in the spirit of friendship – not confrontation – regarding your intentions: Why are your troops massed so very close to Kuwait’s borders?

Saddam Hussein – As you know, for years now I have made every effort to reach a settlement on our dispute with Kuwait. There is to be a meeting in two days; I am prepared to give negotiations only this one more brief chance. (pause) When we (the Iraqis) meet (with the Kuwaitis) and we see there is hope, then nothing will happen. But if we are unable to find a solution, then it will be natural that Iraq will not accept death.

U.S. Ambassador Glaspie – What solutions would be acceptable?

Saddam Hussein – If we could keep the whole of the Shatt al Arab – our strategic goal in our war with Iran – we will make concessions (to the Kuwaitis). But, if we are forced to choose between keeping half of the Shatt and the whole of Iraq (i.e., in Saddam s view, including Kuwait ) then we will give up all of the Shatt to defend our claims on Kuwait to keep the whole of Iraq in the shape we wish it to be. (pause) What is the United States’ opinion on this?

U.S. Ambassador GlaspieWe have no opinion on your Arab – Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary (of State James) Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960’s, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America. (Saddam smiles)

On August 2, 1990, Saddam massed troops to invade and occupy Kuwait. ___

https://www.globalresearch.ca/gulf-...in-and-ambassador-to-iraq-april-glaspie/31145

I recollect reading about this meeting (not specifics) as tensions were high between Iraq and Kuwait. This was reported back then even in newspapers.
 
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Out of 500 terrorists, 99% will be killed at LoC. 1% who are able to infiltrate will be killed by RR.


Net result - 0

Einstein said “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.”


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Goat emoji though,:pound:

Like Babaji,I think he too follows DFI posts,(goat reference works on different levels;) )
 

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That is true. Americans said they had no opinion on Iraq and Kuwaits relations and considered it an internal Arab issue. Please see below transcripts from meeting between Saddam and US Ambassador -

July 25, 1990 – Presidential Palace – Baghdad

U.S. Ambassador Glaspie – I have direct instructions from President Bush to improve our relations with Iraq. We have considerable sympathy for your quest for higher oil prices, the immediate cause of your confrontation with Kuwait. (pause) As you know, I lived here for years and admire your extraordinary efforts to rebuild your country. We know you need funds. We understand that, and our opinion is that you should have the opportunity to rebuild your country. (pause) We can see that you have deployed massive numbers of troops in the south. Normally that would be none of our business, but when this happens in the context of your threat s against Kuwait, then it would be reasonable for us to be concerned. For this reason, I have received an instruction to ask you, in the spirit of friendship – not confrontation – regarding your intentions: Why are your troops massed so very close to Kuwait’s borders?

Saddam Hussein – As you know, for years now I have made every effort to reach a settlement on our dispute with Kuwait. There is to be a meeting in two days; I am prepared to give negotiations only this one more brief chance. (pause) When we (the Iraqis) meet (with the Kuwaitis) and we see there is hope, then nothing will happen. But if we are unable to find a solution, then it will be natural that Iraq will not accept death.

U.S. Ambassador Glaspie – What solutions would be acceptable?

Saddam Hussein – If we could keep the whole of the Shatt al Arab – our strategic goal in our war with Iran – we will make concessions (to the Kuwaitis). But, if we are forced to choose between keeping half of the Shatt and the whole of Iraq (i.e., in Saddam s view, including Kuwait ) then we will give up all of the Shatt to defend our claims on Kuwait to keep the whole of Iraq in the shape we wish it to be. (pause) What is the United States’ opinion on this?

U.S. Ambassador GlaspieWe have no opinion on your Arab – Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary (of State James) Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960’s, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America. (Saddam smiles)

On August 2, 1990, Saddam massed troops to invade and occupy Kuwait. ___

https://www.globalresearch.ca/gulf-...in-and-ambassador-to-iraq-april-glaspie/31145

I recollect reading about this meeting (not specifics) as tensions were high between Iraq and Kuwait. This was reported back then even in newspapers.
Thanks, I didn’t know about this...
 

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https://www.samaa.tv/news/local/2019/09/20-killed-in-naran-bus-crash/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
10 soldiers among 26 killed in Naran bus crash
Lo bhai crash me ,accident me , adh mare balochistani "attacks" me sabme marte hain Pakistani soldiers par
Loc pe heavy Indian firing me nahi marte bas.........
Bhai man na pdega Pakistani soldiers Ko...
Imran must be beaming with joy! 26 Porks less to feed in a country of beggars! :biggrin2:

Damn! That was pretty insensitive of me!! :daru:
 

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Out of 500 terrorists, 99% will be killed at LoC. 1% who are able to infiltrate will be killed by RR.


Net result - 0

Einstein said “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.”


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Goat emoji though,:pound:

Like Babaji,I think he too follows DFI posts,(goat reference works on different levels;) )
Yo, Baba follows DFI posts?
Really?
 
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