India urges China to postpone Xi Jinping's visit

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1. Japan + India (you may want to add US) is still a joke to PLA.
This is the same thinking(illusion) of PLA which is being induced into Chinese population.

2.We dont need friends.
We have 1.3 billion high productivity population, market, resources , food, water and NO.1 production bases in the world.
Yes you don't need friends but certainly you need customers to sell your cheap goods, But you will loose those customers as well.

3.China was NO.1 in Asia for thousands of years.
Boring Chinese CCP propaganda.
 
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This is the same thinking(illusion) of PLA which is being induced into Chinese population.
How? Want some nuke?



Yes you don't need friends but certainly you need customers to sell your cheap goods, But that you will loose those customers as well.
Export is only 26% of Chinese GDP and most of them are not cheap.

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NE.EXP.GNFS.ZS

Boring Chinese CCP propaganda.
please enlighten me.
 
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How? Want some nuke?
21th century wars are fought on economic, strategic, geopolitical as well as military fronts. Chinese are already on the back foot on the strategic and geopolitical front. Once the housing bubble deflates and economy slows Chinese will find it hard to retain the manufacturing advantage once they used to have.


Export is only 26% of Chinese GDP and most of them are not cheap.

Exports of goods and services (% of GDP) | Data | Table
Chinese exports played the major role in creating wealth in China, you people used to have huge margins in this sector. The other important sector is real estate which has generated huge revenues for the local govts.

Now Chinese are thinking of moving towards consumption based economy, All the Best !!

please enlighten me.
Throughout history there are bigger/wealthier kingdoms in Central Asia, South Asia as well as in China. China and India are neck to neck in the past and ancient times. even in 1970's India's economy is bigger than China.

Middle kingdom do not mean Asia's middle kingdom.
 
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20th century wars are fought on economic, strategic, geopolitical as well as military fronts. Chinese are already on the back foot of all the strategic and geopolitical front. Once the housing bubble deflates and economy slows Chinese will find it hard to retain the manufacturing advantage once they used to have.
A good example of Indian illusion, or tell me when it will happen? 2011? 2012?



Chinese exports played the major role in creating wealth in China, you people used to have huge margins in this sector. The other important sector is real estate which has generated huge revenues for the local govts.

Now Chinese are thinking of moving towards consumption based economy, All the Best !!
What are you talking about ? We consume much more goods than export.


Throughout history there are bigger/wealthier kingdoms in Central Asia, South Asia as well as in China. China and India are neck to neck in the past and ancient times. even in 1970's India's economy is bigger than China.

Middle kingdom do not mean Asia's middle kingdom.
Did I say China was NO.1 in Asia all the time(100%)?
I said China was NO.1 in Asia for thousands years(90%).
 
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A good example of Indian illusion, or tell me when it will happen? 2011? 2012?
Check the recent reports on Chinese housing and real estate dude ..... China is heading for real estate crisis.


What are you talking about ? We consume much more goods than export.
Consumption is an increasing trend in China, in the last decade China is export oriented economy.

Did I say China was NO.1 in Asia all the time(100%)?
I said China was NO.1 in Asia for thousands years(90%).
This is propaganda of CCP dude.

Indian economy is better than China throughout history until british arrived here in india.

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&r...XlSys5C7hkVvNyKPA&sig2=Tn5vFLnI9NGGWy7puSSDWA
 

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1. Japan + India (you may want to add US) is still a joke to PLA (in Asia).

Who told you that ? your mother's friend ? :scared2:

2.We dont need friends.
We have 1.3 billion high productivity population, market, resources , food, water and NO.1 production bases in the world.
Terrorists and failed countries like Pakistan and North Korea are only friends of China... No one else wants China's friendship...

3.China was NO.1 in Asia for thousands of years.
Is that the newest joke from PLA ??

China was ruled by Mongolia and then Japan showed you the middle finger...
 
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Check the recent reports on Chinese housing and real estate dude ..... China is heading for real estate crisis.
By those reports China already collapsed long ago.
What we see is India growth rate dropped dramatically.

Consumption is an increasing trend in China, in the last decade China is export oriented economy.
only 6 years over 30% .peaked at 2006 (39%).
Look at another real export oriented economies.

This is propaganda of CCP dude.

Indian economy is better than China throughout history until british arrived here in india.

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&r...XlSys5C7hkVvNyKPA&sig2=Tn5vFLnI9NGGWy7puSSDWA
There is not India before British arrive south Asia.
 
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Who told you that ? your mother's friend ? :scared2:
your PLA friend tell you something different?



Terrorists and failed countries like Pakistan and North Korea are only friends of China... No one else wants China's friendship...
well, any county is friend of India? Don't tell me your neighbours are your friends.



Is that the newest joke from PLA ??

China was ruled by Mongolia and then Japan showed you the middle finger...
Through thousands of years Mongols was rule China for 82 years, and China was defeated by British and US supported Japan of about 100 year.
That is it. See what position of Mongols and Japanese in China history at other time.
 
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By those reports China already collapsed long ago.
What we see is India growth rate dropped dramatically.
India growth rate is picking up and Chinese growth rate is advised to cut down by 1 percent by IMF recently.

anyway why should we Asian nations fight, the results will be known in the few years.


There is not India before British arrive south Asia.
Another illusion just like todays China has no logic of existence when we see imperial china which is smaller territory.
 

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India growth rate is picking up and Chinese growth rate is advised to cut down by 1 percent by IMF recently.

anyway why should we Asian nations fight, the results will be known in the few years.

Still much higher than 5.4%.
IMF sticks to 5.4% growth rate for India, cuts global forecast - Livemint

The increased Chinese GDP in every 2 years = the whole India's GDP. How many years you need?



Another illusion just like todays China has no logic of existence when we see imperial china which is smaller territory.
OK, you can compare Maratha Empire with Qing Empire.
 
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your PLA friend tell you something different?
I do not trust the PLA source, PLA is a big time liars and seldom tells truth ...


well, any county is friend of India? Don't tell me your neighbours are your friends.
We are discussing about China ? right ?


Through thousands of years Mongols was rule China for 82 years, and China was defeated by British and US supported Japan of about 100 year.
That is it. See what position of Mongols and Japanese in China history at other time.
I see the Chinese still cribbing about the Japanese since China first fought with her some 120 years back...
 

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I do not trust the PLA source, PLA is a big time liars and seldom tells truth ...
LOL, why you quoted your PLA source last time?




We are discussing about China ? right ?
I just don't get how you define "friend" in geopolitics.



I see the Chinese still cribbing about the Japanese since China first fought with her some 120 years back...
That is good. China did good job to keep people remember that.
If we go to war with Japan right now, none will disagree in China.
 
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Still much higher than 5.4%.
IMF sticks to 5.4% growth rate for India, cuts global forecast - Livemint

The increased Chinese GDP in every 2 years = the whole India's GDP. How many years you need?
We are picking up and expected to lead in GDP growth rates as Chinese economy has become big.


OK, you can compare Maratha Empire with Qing Empire.
Most of the Western regions of China like the territories Xingjiang, Inner mongolia, Tibet and provinces of central China are sparsely populated, they are either deserts, plateaus or uninhabitable terrains. It is easy to defeat these territories which have less resources and can field weak armies, Compare it with India's north western regions particularly Afghanistan( who are fierce fighters and are better equipped to fight).

Did China ever managed to rule Mongolia, the opposite happened. But in case of India we have conquered Afghanistan two times in the history during Mauryan empire and also Ranjith Singh's time.

Chinese hans live in eastern parts of todays china the western regions have natural barriers which protected them from S.Asia and central Asia.

Maratha empire existed during the time British are conquering Indian territories one by one, credit must be given to them who resisted British, Mughals and Afghans and stood firmly.
 

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That is good. China did good job to keep people remember that.
If we go to war with Japan right now, none will disagree in China.
your opinion or what you agree/disagree does not count; prisoners dont have choice.
 

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Most of the Western regions of China like the territories Xingjiang, Inner mongolia, Tibet and provinces of central China are sparsely populated, they are either deserts, plateaus or uninhabitable terrains. It is easy to defeat these territories which have less resources and can field weak armies,
well, they are quite strong in their terrains since the logistic is a huge problem for army from central area of China at that time.
So, we decided to solve those problems at once.

1.Zunghar Genocide (80% Oirat Mongols killed and 20% fled to Russia)1757
2.Extermination of the Jinchuan Tibetan people in 1776


Did China ever managed to rule Mongolia, the opposite happened.
Mongolia grassland was ruled by Huns then Turks and finally Modern Mongols.

Why do you think Huns and Turks fled to Europe?


Chinese hans live in eastern parts of todays china the western regions have natural barriers which protected them from S.Asia and central Asia.
1. central Asia: We keep trying to expand towards Middle East since Han empire until lose to Arabic empire (in central Asia close to Iran) at Tang Dynasty. Central Asia started to islamic from that time, but now you still can see buddha statues at there.

2. South Asia:

Wang Xuance
Wang Xuance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Wang Xuance (Chinese: 王玄策 (pinyin wáng xuáncè), fl. 7th century) was a Tang Dynasty guard officer and diplomat. In 648, Tang Taizong sent him to India in response to Harshavardhana sending an ambassador to China. However once in India he discovered Harshavardhana had died and the new king attacked Wang and his 30 mounted subordinates.[1] This led to Wang Xuance escaping to Tibet and then mounting a joint of over 7,000 Nepalese mounted infantry and 1,200 Tibetan infantry and attack on the Indian state on June 16. The success of this attack won Xuance the prestigious title of the "Grand Master for the Closing Court."[2] He also secured a reported Buddhist relic for China.[3]

Harsha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Arjua the king of Harshavardhana was capture alive and sent back to the capital of Tang empire. him was killed a few days after for his crime.
 
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LOL, why you quoted your PLA source last time?
PLA is not trust worthy...


I just don't get how you define "friend" in geopolitics.
non intrusive ...

That is good. China did good job to keep people remember that.
If we go to war with Japan right now, none will disagree in China.
China is always crying ... China can not go to war with Japan... because Big Daddy is watching over the shoulder...
 

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PLA is not trust worthy...
Then , why you quote your "PLA friend's" words last time?

Any news from your mother's friend's son recently?



China is always crying ... China can not go to war with Japan... because Big Daddy is watching over the shoulder...
Well, I don't think the big Daddy willing to die for its pet (or anybody).
 
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Modi wants to visit Japan first so as to be able to assess the issues involved, before he chats with Xi.
 
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