In search of fair babies, Indians chase Caucasian donors for IVF

[Adux]

Preference is irrelevent, delhi sperm forces its way through

Im fine, why have you been absent ?

Ah,lol...

I am not in the mood for board to be very honest more than that I have started up couple of new things, been busy with that. Life outside Internet takes time ( That doesnt affect porn viewing, once a mallu always a mallu)

 

[Dovah]

I thought we are talking about skin color preference not hair. Black women wanting good hair, is similar to fat guy wanting a good body. Indian women are a bit different than you think. They are not really attracted to white race. They are attracted to clear, glowing, lighter shade of skin, NOT WHITE.

Exactly! And calling it racism is a stretch. It's stupid but it's still not racism.

 

[Dovah]

It isn't just about skin colour when Africans want Caucasian hair.

Do white women want to be more black when they go for tanning?

They want what they see in the movies and Western entertainment has made its mark on Indian women.

This fair skin obsession has more to do with 'Indian Entertainment' rather than Western one. Indian women with access to/preference for Western entertinment want to be anorexic not white.

 

[The Messiah]

Ah,lol...

I am not in the mood for board to be very honest more than that I have started up couple of new things, been busy with that. Life outside Internet takes time ( That doesnt affect porn viewing, once a mallu always a mallu)

I was also absent from DFI for a few months but if you post for a couple of days then the cuntish posts are hard to ignore and one can easily get hooked onto it. But then again im free these days. Hopefully you aren't watching mallu porn

 

[Adux]

I was also absent from DFI for a few months but if you post for a couple of days then the cuntish posts are hard to ignore and one can easily get hooked onto it. But then again im free these days. Hopefully you aren't watching mallu porn

Exactly why I posted, especially the crap posted in the first page, it is so racist, in any other forum, that guy will be permanently banned.

Mallu porn acted by mostly non mallu's and watched mostly by Tamilians

 

[Adux]

Do white women want to be more black when they go for tanning?

You mean white women dont like black men and their big dicks ...lol

This fair skin obsession has more to do with 'Indian Entertainment' rather than Western one. Indian women with access to/preference for Western entertinment want to be anorexic not white.

India was always liberal before it became a prudish conservative of today, but the trend and interest is towards western liberalism with an Indian twist. That is their interest in western culture.
Indian women are not going gaga over White men like chinese or other south east asians, nor are indian men interested to ''marry' white women.

 

[mikhail]

The word "varna" does mean "color", but it may or may not refer to actual skin pigmentation. The Mahabharata associates white with brahmins, red with kshatriyas, yellow with vaisyas, and black with shudras. Unless all the warriors of ancient India were Native Americans and the traders were East Asians, I don't see how such labels could refer to skin color. They seem instead to refer to some abstract, brahmanical notion of purity. It is important to remember that varnas are not ethnic or racial groups, or even endogamous occupational groups like jatis. They are simply labels given by brahamans to other people who they deem as ritually inferior. Several groups had their varna status raised or lowered through the course of history (for example, the Buddhists were often denigrated as Shudras, even though many Buddhists, including Siddhartha Gautama, were born as Kshatriyas or Brahmins). It is quite difficult to guess the ethnic or "racial" origins of a person based on his/her varna status alone, especially given how the status itself has fluctuated.

As for the attitudes of ancient Indians towards skin color, it is difficult to say exactly what they believed, but based on the surviving paintings and artistic depictions from ancient India, it doesn't seem like they particularly cared about skin color. The paintings at Ajanta, for example, depict most people as dark-skinned, including royalty and the upper class. A lot of dancing girls, apsaras (nymphs), princesses/maidens, etc. are depicted as dark-skinned. Even if there was some preference for fairer skin, I have not seen any good evidence that ancient Indians were as racist or obsessed with skin color as modern Indians are. On the contrary, a lot of the evidence seems to suggest that they were pretty laid back and didn't really give a shit.

Just a few pictures to show what I am talking about:

mate i must admit that you have an acute sense of hatred towards the Brahmin community but the Varna system was not only approved by the Brahmin but also from the Kshatriyas as well and later the Vaishyas also accepted it somehow.
the "Varna" system came to existence only due to the fact that the Indo-Aryans didn't want to intermix with the native Dravidian communities after conquering Aryavarta but since then a lot of water has flowed through the Indus and the Ganges and now at present we have got the most racially diverse society in the entire world due to the subsequent intermixing of the Aryans and the local population.that's why in Bengal you'll find many of the brahmins having a darker complexion and at the same time there are many Brahmins here who have a much fairer complexion pretty much similar to their North Indian counterparts.all this diversity in complexion happened owing to the fact that during the spreading of the Vedic civilization in the Bengal region most of the brahmins who came here from Northern India at that time didn't bring their womenfolks and hence when they settled here they married the local Dravidian girls(showing a mid finger to their own Varna system)!at the same time they also accepted numerous influential native religious leaders(who were dravidians and had a darker complexion) in the Brahminical fold and assimilated them in the Brahmin caste in order to get the allegiance of the native population on whom they had significant influence.in this way they spread the Dharmic philosophy throughout the bengal region!

 

[mikhail]

You mean white women dont like black men and their big dicks ...lol


India was always liberal before it became a prudish conservative of today, but the trend and interest is towards western liberalism with an Indian twist. That is their interest in western culture.
Indian women are not going gaga over White men like chinese or other south east asians, nor are indian men interested to ''marry' white women.

speak for yourself mate because many Indian men like me desperately want to have "white" girls as their brides after watching them performing some specific actions which their Indian counterparts literally can't in the internet:sarci think you have already understood what i meant to say)

 

[Known_Unknown]

The word "varna" does mean "color", but it may or may not refer to actual skin pigmentation. The Mahabharata associates white with brahmins, red with kshatriyas, yellow with vaisyas, and black with shudras. Unless all the warriors of ancient India were Native Americans and the traders were East Asians, I don't see how such labels could refer to skin color.

You think the "red" and "yellow" might have been used as it was probably easier than describing "light brown", "lighter brown" and "lightest brown" colours? The fact that Shudras were "black" and Brahmins were "white" and not vice versa is also very telling, don't you think? After all, in other historical epics and religious texts, certain colours are attributed to certain individuals always because of some reason or another. For example, Shiva is referred to as "Nilkantha" because he ingested poison and held it in his neck (although admittedly, why Vishnu is depicted as blue is anyone's guess).

Even if we neglect the religious epics, Kalidasa's works from the 5th century AD often depict the female heroines as being white as milk or fair-skinned. The most famous example being Shakuntala.

They seem instead to refer to some abstract, brahmanical notion of purity. It is important to remember that varnas are not ethnic or racial groups, or even endogamous occupational groups like jatis. They are simply labels given by brahamans to other people who they deem as ritually inferior. Several groups had their varna status raised or lowered through the course of history (for example, the Buddhists were often denigrated as Shudras, even though many Buddhists, including Siddhartha Gautama, were born as Kshatriyas or Brahmins). It is quite difficult to guess the ethnic or "racial" origins of a person based on his/her varna status alone, especially given how the status itself has fluctuated.

OK, but Indian literature even in pre-British and pre-Mughal times equated fairness with beauty is the point I was trying to make.

As for the attitudes of ancient Indians towards skin color, it is difficult to say exactly what they believed, but based on the surviving paintings and artistic depictions from ancient India, it doesn't seem like they particularly cared about skin color. The paintings at Ajanta, for example, depict most people as dark-skinned, including royalty and the upper class. A lot of dancing girls, apsaras (nymphs), princesses/maidens, etc. are depicted as dark-skinned. Even if there was some preference for fairer skin, I have not seen any good evidence that ancient Indians were as racist or obsessed with skin color as modern Indians are. On the contrary, a lot of the evidence seems to suggest that they were pretty laid back and didn't really give a shit.

Ah, but the Ajanta cave paintings were originally of Buddhist and Jain origin. So if your earlier claim of the Buddhists being classified as Shudras by some Brahmins is true, then the paintings may depict a rebellion by Buddhists against the norms of the "varna" system and towards greater egalitarianism which they certainly advocated. That however was still probably not true of the rest of Hindu society.

 

[Adux]

speak for yourself mate because many Indian men like me desperately want to have "white" girls as their brides after watching them performing some specific actions which their Indian counterparts literally can't in the internet:sarci think you have already understood what i meant to say)

Most urban Indian man worth his salt dont want to marry a white girl. They want to have 'FUN'. Marriage. Absolutely not. The internet is full of sad white girls complaining about her indian boyfriend dumping her and full idiotic indian men trying to get into the pants of white women. My girlfriend is white, she puts out that statistic occasionally to keep me on my toes.

 

[Adux]

mate i must admit that you have an acute sense of hatred towards the Brahmin community but the Varna system was not only approved by the Brahmin but also from the Kshatriyas as well and later the Vaishyas also accepted it somehow.
the "Varna" system came to existence only due to the fact that the Indo-Aryans didn't want to intermix with the native Dravidian communities after conquering Aryavarta but since then a lot of water has flowed through the Indus and the Ganges and now at present we have got the most racially diverse society in the entire world due to the subsequent intermixing of the Aryans and the local population.that's why in Bengal you'll find many of the brahmins having a darker complexion and at the same time there are many Brahmins here who have a much fairer complexion pretty much similar to their North Indian counterparts.all this diversity in complexion happened owing to the fact that during the spreading of the Vedic civilization in the Bengal region most of the brahmins who came here from Northern India at that time didn't bring their womenfolks and hence when they settled here they married the local Dravidian girls(showing a mid finger to their own Varna system)!at the same time they also accepted numerous influential native religious leaders(who were dravidians and had a darker complexion) in the Brahminical fold and assimilated them in the Brahmin caste in order to get the allegiance of the native population on whom they had significant influence.in this way they spread the Dharmic philosophy throughout the bengal region!

Ah, the Aryan invasion theory....lol. That thing is like the Internet version of Digvijaya stories

 

[Armand2REP]

Do white women want to be more black when they go for tanning?

White women don't turn black when they tan, they turn at best bronze and usually red. They want to get a little darker because they pretend to have active lifestyles in the sun, instead of sitting on their ass. You will find women of the Orient making themselves pasty white because they see it as the epitome of beauty. Most of the cosmetic ads in China, Japan and even India portray white women.

This fair skin obsession has more to do with 'Indian Entertainment' rather than Western one. Indian women with access to/preference for Western entertinment want to be anorexic not white.

Why are they looking for Caucasian sperm donors? White means success, dark means poverty. It is a perception I came across all over Asia.

 

[Adux]

White women don't turn black when they tan, they turn at best bronze and usually red. They want to get a little darker because they pretend to have active lifestyles in the sun, instead of sitting on their ass. You will find women of the Orient making themselves pasty white because they see it as the epitome of beauty. Most of the cosmetic ads in China, Japan and even India portray white women

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I am yet to see an Indian cosmetic ad with a blondie, I suggest you stop digging yourself in a hole. You dont know what Indian women want.

Why are they looking for Caucasian sperm donors? White means success, dark means poverty. It is a perception I came across all over Asia.

Just because some few Indians did so, You intend to paint the 700 million odd womenfolk of India. How stupid can you get?

 

[PredictablyMalicious]

White women don't turn black when they tan, they turn at best bronze and usually red. They want to get a little darker because they pretend to have active lifestyles in the sun, instead of sitting on their ass. You will find women of the Orient making themselves pasty white because they see it as the epitome of beauty. Most of the cosmetic ads in China, Japan and even India portray white women.



Why are they looking for Caucasian sperm donors? White means success, dark means poverty. It is a perception I came across all over Asia.

Most absurd statement I've seen, atleast pertaining to India. Most Indian ads feature ummm indian women! cosmetic or otherwise.

 

[Adux]

You think the "red" and "yellow" might have been used as it was probably easier than describing "light brown", "lighter brown" and "lightest brown" colours? The fact that Shudras were "black" and Brahmins were "white" and not vice versa is also very telling, don't you think? After all, in other historical epics and religious texts, certain colours are attributed to certain individuals always because of some reason or another. For example, Shiva is referred to as "Nilkantha" because he ingested poison and held it in his neck (although admittedly, why Vishnu is depicted as blue is anyone's guess).

Somebody needs to send your confused ass some reality check.
Not really. Food, Climatic Exposure and Lifestyle matters.
Indian kids are more fairer and more taller now than before, irrespective of caste. Especially the urban ones.

Even if we neglect the religious epics, Kalidasa's works from the 5th century AD often depict the female heroines as being white as milk or fair-skinned. The most famous example being Shakuntala.

Oh, boy.

OK, but Indian literature even in pre-British and pre-Mughal times equated fairness with beauty is the point I was trying to make.

Maybe because we had our share of racist idiots just like you in our historic times, and they had the time to write. Just like Hitler had the time to write Mien Kampf

Ah, but the Ajanta cave paintings were originally of Buddhist and Jain origin. So if your earlier claim of the Buddhists being classified as Shudras by some Brahmins is true, then the paintings may depict a rebellion by Buddhists against the norms of the "varna" system and towards greater egalitarianism which they certainly advocated. That however was still probably not true of the rest of Hindu society.

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That is coming out of somebody ass right there.

 

[Bangalorean]

On this thread, we need to make a distinction between "fair skin" and "white women/men".

It is undeniable that Indian men and women have a preference for a fair/light skin tone. However, this does NOT mean that Indian men and women look for white Caucasian partners. There is a difference between Indians with light skin tone and "goras" (Caucasian whites).

 

[pmaitra]

White women don't turn black when they tan, they turn at best bronze and usually red. They want to get a little darker because they pretend to have active lifestyles in the sun, instead of sitting on their ass. You will find women of the Orient making themselves pasty white because they see it as the epitome of beauty. Most of the cosmetic ads in China, Japan and even India portray white women.



Why are they looking for Caucasian sperm donors? White means success, dark means poverty. It is a perception I came across all over Asia.

Apropos people of the Orient, and of the Occident, do you not think that Chinese, Mongols, Tibetans, and Asian Russians, are actually the pure "white," if I may use that term, unlike the brown polka dots on pink so often seen in the Occident? You might argue those are freckles, but if we are talking about skin colour, we have to take the average of both or mention both. If you have brown and pink skin, you gotta call yourselves, just that, brown-and-pink, not white.

 

[PredictablyMalicious]

I've found that South Indians are more into fair skin than the northerners. I know I'm going to get flack for saying this but in general, I've found it to be true. South indians and Sri lankans are a bit obsessed with fair skin. With north indians, we appreciate features and physical fitness more than skin colour. There are quite a few dusky female actors on North Indian TV shows/ movies whereas South Indian entertainment only features extremely fair females who are often imported from the north.

 

[Bangalorean]

I've found that South Indians are more into fair skin than the northerners. I know I'm going to get flack for saying this but in general, I've found it to be true. South indians and Sri lankans are a bit obsessed with fair skin. With north indians, we appreciate features and physical fitness more than skin colour. There are quite a few dusky female actors on North Indian TV shows/ movies whereas South Indian entertainment only features extremely fair females who are often imported from the north.

I think it is more or less the same in North and South - I would think that things are "slightly" worse in the North in general society.

Bollywood is as bad as any other film industry in India. What is "dusky"? Even "dusky" actresses are fair by Indian standards. Look around you and see the women on the streets and in villages. You cannot find any actress of that skin tone anywhere in Bollywood. And Bollywood music is always into "Gori Gori" - where a "Gori colour" is synonymous with beauty. "Goriya sajan ko lubha le apne", "Gori ko hoga ab saajan ke ghar jaana" - you will never find "kaali" being referred to as beautiful or pretty. In fact, truck drivers all over "North India" who are themselves of a relatively dark skin tone have "buri nazar waale teri muh kaala" plastered on the back of their trucks

"Kaala" is considered bad and undesirable in India.

 

[PredictablyMalicious]

I think it is more or less the same in North and South - I would think that things are "slightly" worse in the North in general society.

Bollywood is as bad as any other film industry in India. What is "dusky"? Even "dusky" actresses are fair by Indian standards. Look around you and see the women on the streets and in villages. You cannot find any actress of that skin tone anywhere in Bollywood. And Bollywood music is always into "Gori Gori" - where a "Gori colour" is synonymous with beauty. "Goriya sajan ko lubha le apne", "Gori ko hoga ab saajan ke ghar jaana" - you will never find "kaali" being referred to as beautiful or pretty. In fact, truck drivers all over "North India" who are themselves of a relatively dark skin tone have "buri nazar waale teri muh kaala" plastered on the back of their trucks

"Kaala" is considered bad and undesirable in India.

Depends on your area I guess. Dusky is definitely not fair in the Northwest India. Girls in my hometown are fair on average. In Rajasthan, dusky is probably average. In Tamil Nadu, dusky as defined by me is probably on the fair side. I guess by north, if you mean UP/Bihar you may be right. I certainly don't consider them Northern states, maybe geographically, but not they're different from Northwest Indians.