If India offers help to Pakistan: Pak finally accepts offer of aid from India

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What idiots. even in travesty they think about such things. India was better off not offering any aid.
 

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What idiots. even in travesty they think about such things. India was better off not offering any aid.
I,d love to aid the victims but remember what happened to the aid in 2005 Earthquakes when it was misused... thats precisely the reason Pakistan is not getting too much aid , very sad people suffer because of the bigoted politicians..
 

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Major floods are in Indus and kabul river.If floods would have been in satluj and beas as pakistanis are claiming then major portion of punjab wuuld have flooded not the NWFP and swat.

'Reject Indian aid for flood victims'


Blaming the devastating floods sweeping Pakistan on India releasing excess water into the Satluj and Beas rivers, an editorial in a Pakistani paper on Sunday called on the government to reject the "hypocritical" Indian offer of aid. "The offer of aid is akin is throwing salt on our wounds," the


editorial in the Urdu daily Nawa-i-Waqt said.
"Bharat (India) has released water into the Satluj and the Beas and has also offered relief material worth $50 lakh," it said, referring to Indian External Affairs Minister S M Krishna on Friday speaking to his Pakistani counterpart Shah Mahmood Qureshi and offering $5 million for flood victims in Pakistan.

"India on one hand is carrying out an indiscriminate massacre in occupied Kashmir and had the other day killed nine defenceless Kashmiris. It released water in the Satluj and Beas to exacerbate the flood havoc in Pakistan and and the other hand, threw salt on our wounds by offering us assistance of $50 lakh," the editorial said.

It called on the Pakistani government to decline, with thanks, the Indian offer of aid because "India's attitude was hypocritical".

"It (India) has built dams to secure itself, and is releasing water into Pakistan's rivers as part of its design to devastate Pakistan, using water as a weapon. Sometimes, it uses the water to flood Pakistan and sometimes, it restricts the flow to transform Pakistan into a parched desert as part of its conspiracy."

The editorial said the Indian actions in Kashmir and through water showed "it was in effect waging a war against Pakistan which was causing the country extreme damage, while in an effort to hoodwink the world, India had expressed the offer for help."

The Pakistani government should be extremely cautious of India's "deceit and trickery", it said, adding there were only two ways to counter India - "construction of major dams itself, and sustained efforts to free the occupied Kashmiri Valeey, where a genocide of Kashmiri Muslims was underway."

"If the Pakistani government falters on either of these two objectives, India will succeed in its unholy designs of dismembering Pakistan," the editorial said.

Pakistan is grappling with its worst ever floods that have left over 1,600 people dead and affected over 14 million people. A media report put the total economic loss due to the floods at around Rs.250 billion ($2.92 billion).
 

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India must help rebuild Pakistan


India has to understand that we ourselves are the victims of terrorism...
Isn't these buggers want to be in middle east? WShy they look at south east asia there middle east masters have kicked them or what?

This is favorite taquia of them, as pathetic as it can get.

Pakistan being victim of terrorism is like a suicide bomber victim of bomb.
 

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They should have made a small correction to that statement ie : ndia has to understand that we ourselves are the victims of terrorism. that we created
 

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reject it u will be the ultimate losser ...who care if u dont want help...so the trust deficit continues..:angry_6:
 

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Lol the turn of events was so expected. :happy_2:

I should read palms for a living.
 

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Lol the turn of events was so expected. :happy_2:

I should read palms for a living.
You can read palm and predict future for a person but what about a hopeless country named Bakistan ? Even God will not be able to predict exactly when Pakistan will cease to exist.



[hl]please refrain from using demeaning words for other countries. change marked in red. thanks.[/hl]
 
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What Ahmed Rashid is smoking.First they are still undecided about the indian aid and this idiot blames everything on india.This beggar threatens international pressure on India.:happy_2:

http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2010/aug/16/last-chance-pakistan/

For its part, India has failed to respond to the crisis, and relations between the two countries remain locked in bitter animosity, especially as India blames this summer's uprising in Indian Kashmir on Pakistan. Major international pressure is needed for both countries to sort out their acute differences over the control of their common river systems and the building of new dams on both sides of the border. (The sources of many of the rivers that flow into Pakistan are in Indian-controlled territory either in the Himalayas or Kashmir. There have been recent rise in tensions with Pakistan accusing India of building unauthorized dams on these rivers upstream.) Indian relief goods, cheaper food, and construction materials should be immediately allowed to enter Pakistan.
 

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India awaits Pakistan's response


NEW DELHI/ISLAMABAD: India on Monday said it was willing to provide more aid to help the flood-affected in Pakistan, but was awaiting a response to its initial offer of $5 million.

"We are keen to help Pakistan in its hour of need," informed sources said.

Acknowledging that the initial offer might seem modest, especially compared to the millions of dollars it gave to other neighbours for relief and rehabilitation, the sources said it would be easier for India to move more aid provided the response to its offer was positive. Denying that the announcement of aid to Pakistan was made on second thoughts, the sources said that with the National Disaster Management Authority(NDMA) in place, India was well positioned to quickly push across relief materials across the border. When an earthquake struck upper Pakistan in 2005, Islamabad accepted the Indian aid that was sent through three trains and 45 trucks, besides airlifting relief.

"The aid offer has nothing to do with political point scoring. We would like to help any way we can," the sources reiterated, while denying that the offer was niggardly by calling for comparisons with that of the states of the Organisation of Islamic Conference.

In case Pakistan asked India to channel its aid through the United Nations, New Delhi would see "what it can do." It had no issues with sending aid through the U.N. and had done so often, most notably in the case of Palestine.

But in this case the aid was offered on a bilateral basis, the sources pointed out.

In Islamabad, Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi sought to explain the time being taken to decide on New Delhi's offer. "The Indian offer — India asked us what kind of assistance we required and asked us to prioritise — has been communicated to the leadership and the leadership is considering it," he said at a press conference.

Asked why the Indian offer was being treated differently from what was made by other countries, Mr. Qureshi said: "Our relationship is different and given the sensitivities.... Anyway, it is not as if the floods are over. It is an unfolding emergency which requires a long-drawn out strategy. This is a continuous effort."
 

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The west wants india to foot the pakistan reconstruction bill that too without any acknowledgement.

India ready to give more aid but Pak silent


India's offer of assistance was conveyed to Pakistan by foreign ministerS M Krishna when he spoke to his counterpart Shah Mahmood Qureshi last weekend. Pakistan's foreign office, however, did not mention the Indian offer, merely saying that Krishna had extended India's sympathies to Pakistan at the time of crisis.
When questioned, the foreign office spokesman said Pakistan had not "rejected the Indian offer outright".

The Indian government had also come under some criticism for being slow off the ground. New Delhi took time to craft its response because of the memory of Pakistan's indifference to its offer to help with earthquake relief in 2005. It has, however, now got its act together. Sources said the government has already begun preliminary work on an assistance package with the National Disaster Management Authority (NDMA) which is resource-rich, and would even be willing to route the assistance through the UN if that's what Pakistan wants.

But it feels the bilateral approach is better because given the short distances, India would be able to reach assistance much faster to the affected areas in Pakistan. In fact, India is even willing to be the source country for assistance material for other countries, multilateral organizations helping out Pakistan, even NGOs.
 

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Instead of giving Cash. Food, Medicine, Clothes, Tents, Blankets which are a better option.
 

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400 Indian doctors to arrive in Sindh'


By Amar Guriro

KARACHI: As nations around the globe are planning to help Pakistan's flood victims, Indians have also decided to play their role by sending teams including 400 doctors and paramedical staff to work in the flood-hit districts.

The Indian civil society, who wants to see peace between both nuclear rivals, will make all arrangements to send these teams. The Indian doctors will work in flood-affected districts of Sindh province, but will avoid visiting Punjab and Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa because of Taliban threat.

An Indian delegation of peace activists including Shri Sandeep Pandey of Voice of Ayodhiya, Mazher Hussain of Confederation of Voluntary Associations (COVA), Mumbai-based prominent human rights and social activists Feroze Mithiborwala, Gurudial Singh Sheetal, Monika Wahi, Zaid Ahmed Shaikh and others arrived in Pakistan on Sunday after holding rallies from Mumbai to Amritsar as part of recently announced Pakistan-India Peace Caravan, the 'Aman Ke Badhte Qadam'.

During a meeting with peace activists of Pakistan, Mazher Hussain offered to send doctors' teams to flood-hit districts. "We want to see peace between both countries and if in situations like this, help comes from India, it will send a message of love. So we will send doctors and medical experts with medicines to help the flood-affected people," he said.

COVA is an Indian Hyderabad-based network of over 800 organisations working in nine districts of Andhra Pradesh, and in the states of Gujarat, West Bengal, Uttar Pradesh and Jammu & Kashmir on different issues including peace.

During the meeting Pak-India Joint Flood Relief Committee was formed comprising Shri Sandeep Pandey, Mazher Hussain and Feroze Mithiborwala from India and Adam Malik, BM Kutty, Karamat Ali, Pakistan Medical Association president Dr Tipu Sultan, South Asia Partnership Executive Director, Muhammad Tahseen and Dr AH Nayyar from Pakistan.

"We will manage the arrival of the Indian doctors here so that they may start their work in flood-hit areas as soon as possible," said Mithiborwala.

The meeting also decided that the Indian doctors would work in Sindh, a southern province of the country. "The law and order situation in Punjab and Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa is not good, so it will not be advisable to send them there, therefore we have decided to send them to areas in Sindh where they will be safe," said Kutty.

Talking to Daily Times, committee member Adam Malik said that there was no Taliban presence in Sindh and the people would welcome the Indian guests with open arms. "Besides that in Sindh everyone will help Indian doctors work easily in the flood-hot areas," said Malik.

The Indian members will manage the affairs till the teams reach Wagah from where the Pakistani members of the committee will take charge to bring them to the flood-hit areas.

"In the meeting we also decided that the Indian members besides sending doctors would also collect funds, medicines, tents and dry food items in Indian cities," said Pak-India Peace Caravan spokesperson, Sharafat Ali. He said that the Indian delegation also brought 35,000 Indian Rupees and submitted the amount to the Labour flood relief camp, set up by Labour Party Pakistan. "We are also talking to Edhi Foundation to start relief work in flood-hit areas," he said.

After causing widespread devastation in the north western and central parts of Pakistan, the floods, worst in 80 years, struck the southern Sindh province and badly affected more than five million people. In such conditions, the decision by Indian civil society to send doctors will boost the ongoing peace process.
 

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Guys I don't think pakistani government is doing enough for handling the situation, an I don't think they will do anything. In this case there is fair amount of chance that these guys may try to cross over to our side. I hope we have good surveillance in the border areas and good stock of ammunition to take care of such situation. Absolutely no one should be allowed to come.

What you guys think.
 

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400 Indian doctors to arrive in Sindh'


....The Indian civil society, who wants to see peace between both nuclear rivals, will make all arrangements to send these teams. The Indian doctors will work in flood-affected districts of Sindh province, but will avoid visiting Punjab and Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa because of Taliban threat....
Did you notice, they don't want to credit Government of India, but the "civil society". Pakistan uses its own superstructure as a template to interpret how other countries work:

Government = bad guys who leach on the public
Military = bad guys with guns
Civil society = good, artsy-fartsy, often-rich guys
Elite = evil rich guys
Public = middle-class/low class guys whose very purpose is to get screwed and/or stay screwed


....which is why Pakistan sees "good deeds" (read: pro Pakistan) coming from India as coming from the civil society, sees Indian Chief of Staff: Army as being the same kind of person with the same kind of powers as theirs, and so on.
 

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Shoot any intruders? Hmmm I see that you are salivating at the thought. Don't worry no one will come here. They may well drown in the floods than cross into Kafir land.
 

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Yes, there is a scope for Pakistan to send unarmed militants as harmless-looking refugees. India should keep its borders and LoC tight.
 

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Cyclone Bhola in east pakistan was one of the reason for the creation of bangladesh.....

Cyclone Bhola hit East Pakistan in 1970.

India became one of the first nations to offer aid to Pakistan, despite the generally poor relations between the two countries, and by the end of November had pledged $1.3 million (1970 USD, $6.9 million 2007 USD) of assistance for the relief efforts. The Pakistani government refused to allow the Indians to send supplies into East Pakistan by air, forcing them to be transported slowly by road instead.The Indian government also said that the Pakistanis refused an offer of military aircraft, helicopters and boats from West Bengal to assist in the relief operation.
 

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