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Various types of Prithvi warheads

 

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Drdo fuel air explosive (FAE) test

 

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Nirbhay 300kg penetration cum blast warhead

 

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MLPGM 10kg warhead , 10kg shaped charge warhead for anti armour is some serious warhead.

 

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50kg warhead for light weight torpedo

 

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Pinaka sub-munitions warhead

Is that a drag ring on top ?

 

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Various types of directional warheads

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@sayareakd

Remember the discussion we had months ago , and this was the pic I posted then.

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It seems I was correct but drdo went for 1 axis gimbal in the azimuth axis only, while I had predicted 2 axis gimbal in azimuth and pitch axis.

Which allowed for more no of orientation points of the directional warhead .

Maybe they will later incorporate 2 axis gimbal for the directional warhead as it will allow more options like numerous firing postions to cater for possible last few seconds manuver of target and even allow extreme off axis orientations during cross over , especially if the target is pulling laterally away at high G's.

I am looking forward to drdo incorporating this concept in AAMs . Combined with a good seeker , dual pulse motor and 2 axis gimballed warhead, no amount of extreme manuvering even last few seconds manuvering by the target aircraft will not save it's ass from becoming a complete kill , no limping back to base. It will enforce a watertight NEZ.

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[Chinmoy]

The table below shows the warhead weight of each vehicle.
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Interestingly, it states Pralay have 350kg and 700kg warhead options, while the one at the poster in DefExpo showed 500kg @ 400km and 1000kg @ 350km warhead options. DRDO is surely trying to hide its actual range from the public.

Pralay being a modern smaller cousin of Shaurya and Shaurya being able to deliver 1 ton warhead at 750km, we can safely assume that Pralay can deliver 700kg warhead atleast 500km away and 350kg warhead around 900-1000km away.

Interestingly Trishul is also there......................

 

[Chinmoy]

Drdo fuel air explosive (FAE) test

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Just imagine it in an underground bunker. PCB warheads should be like this in bunker bursting role.

 

[Enquirer]

Just imagine it in an underground bunker. PCB warheads should be like this in bunker bursting role.

How exactly will "Fuel AIR Explosive" work inside a bunker????

The fact is that once an ordnance penetrates a bunker - even a small amount of regular explosive can be devastating; the pressure build up inside the bunker will be astronomical!

 

[porky_kicker]

How exactly will "Fuel AIR Explosive" work inside a bunker????

The fact is that once an ordnance penetrates a bunker - even a small amount of regular explosive can be devastating; the pressure build up inside the bunker will be astronomical!

I will try my best to explain the effectiveness via sound effect.

FAE exploding inside a underground complex-
Boom, Kaboommmmmmmmmmmmm :biggrin2:

After penetration a regular explosive exploding inside a underground complex-
Boom , kaboom :biggrin2:

 

[Enquirer]

I will try my best to explain

FAE exploding inside a underground complex-
Boom, Kaboommmmmmmmmmmmm :biggrin2:

A PCB exploding inside a underground complex-
Boom , kaboomm :biggrin2:

It was a rhetorical question!
You got the explosions mixed up one for the other!

By definition FAE will need TONNES of oxygen - so much so that it creates a 'vacuum' like conditions in large area around the explosion that's famed to 'suck out' people's lungs even at a distance from the actual explosion!!

Inside a bunker there isn't that much oxygen to ignite ALL of the Fuel that's dispersed into the air (inside the bunker)!! As such I feel it's not an ideal weapons inside a bunker.
On the other hand even a small amount of regular explosive (that doesn't need air) can create so much pressure in the enclosed space that it'll kill every living organism and not to mention demolish the bunker itself!

 

[Chinmoy]

It was a rhetorical question!
You got the explosions mixed up one for the other!

By definition FAE will need TONNES of oxygen - so much so that it creates a 'vacuum' like conditions in large area around the explosion that's famed to 'suck out' people's lungs even at a distance from the actual explosion!!

Inside a bunker there isn't that much oxygen to ignite ALL of the Fuel that's dispersed into the air (inside the bunker)!! As such I feel it's not an ideal weapons inside a bunker.
On the other hand even a small amount of regular explosive (that doesn't need air) can create so much pressure in the enclosed space that it'll kill every living organism and not to mention demolish the bunker itself!

Sau baato ki ek baat............ From our very own go to Wiki..

Fuel-air explosive
A fuel-air explosive (FAE) device consists of a container of fuel and two separate explosive charges. After the munition is dropped or fired, the first explosive charge bursts open the container at a predetermined height and disperses the fuel (also possible ionizing it, depending on whether a used quartz dispersal charge container was employed) in a cloud that mixes with atmospheric oxygen (the size of the cloud varies with the size of the munition). The cloud of fuel flows around objects and into structures. The second charge then detonates the cloud, creating a massive blast wave. The blast wave destroys reinforced buildings and equipment and kills and injures people. The antipersonnel effect of the blast wave is more severe in foxholes and tunnels, and in enclosed spaces, such as bunkers and caves.

Bunkers does have adequate amount of oxygen for human to survive and work on. This much is enough for FAE.

 

[Tanmay]

Various types of Prithvi warheads

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Considering that launching of ballistic missiles will inevitably taken as start of nuclear war, wouldnt it be better to strip BM from conventional roles.
I dont think Russsians and Amrikans advertise BMs with conventional cabability. As any BM launch once detected will lead to MAD

P.S.: I know our no-first-use policy and Paki use oftactical nukes

 

[Chinmoy]

Considering that launching of ballistic missiles will inevitably taken as start of nuclear war, wouldnt it be better to strip BM from conventional roles.
I dont think Russsians and Amrikans advertise BMs with conventional cabability. As any BM launch once detected will lead to MAD

P.S.: I know our no-first-use policy and Paki use oftactical nukes

Not necessarily if you are not taking Pakistan into consideration. US and Russia both have TBM in their arsenal although they have no new programs. Same is the case with China.

 

[Chinmoy]

Few of Gagan Shakti 2018 participants.

 

[Kshithij]

Considering that launching of ballistic missiles will inevitably taken as start of nuclear war, wouldnt it be better to strip BM from conventional roles.
I dont think Russsians and Amrikans advertise BMs with conventional cabability. As any BM launch once detected will lead to MAD

P.S.: I know our no-first-use policy and Paki use oftactical nukes

The longer range ballistic missiles are mainly meant to deliver big payloads, not small ones. The cruise missiles are meant to deliver precision payload to a specific point and have maximum impact. However, at times, conventional bombs may be used too.

It is false to simply say that nuclear bombs are all powerful and can simply wipe out areas. This is a myth and does not hold water when seen with evidence.

Pakistani tactical nukes are a waste of time and energy. It is better to drop 1 ton cluster bomb instead of that tactical nuke. The no-first use policy is just a farce and can be changed anytime. Just 1 minute before launch, the policy can be changed too.

Launching of any missile will be taken as full scale war. One does not launch 1 missile and wait for opponent. If the intention is to simply attack mildly, it is better to use airforce, not missile.

So, ballistic missiles are better mated with nuclear weapons but not necessarily only mated with nukes. Other warheads like bunker busters, military base and airstrip buster bombs etc are also capable of being used in smaller quantity. But, using ballistic missile to drop 1ton conventional bomb is extremely expensive. So, ballistic missiles are supposed to be used mostly with bigger payloads and to a limited extent other specialised payload

 

[Enquirer]

Sau baato ki ek baat............ From our very own go to Wiki..



Bunkers does have adequate amount of oxygen for human to survive and work on. This much is enough for FAE.

Wiki is the worst source for nuanced topic like the use of FAE in bunkers etc - especially when Wiki sources stuff from HRW (a bunch of loonies who excel at the art of lying & exaggerations).

They even took material from the sources & misquoted them. The sources that wiki page states is their sources clearly says that Fuel Air Explosives are good only for unreinforced structures, but the nutjobs changed it to say that it can be used in reinforced structures!!

And you made up nonsense like oxygen requirement for FAE is same as that of humans!

Here's some better material (that bases its arguments on science & facts; and not on some flatulence)

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214914716300927

The actual requirement-performance is quite complex. As I mentioned earlier conventional blast inside structures is very effective in taking down both personnel and the structure due to intense pressure. Thermobaric blasts will destroy personnel due to intense heat and might 'burn' down structures - but not destroy hardened structures due to the blast.

"However, their effects are lethal only within their close vicinity and possess obvious undesirable shortcomings for destroying hardened targets such as caves, tunnels, etc. In order to overcome these shortcomings, great efforts have been spent on the development of new weapons which are able to generate higher blast, higher impulse and capable of using its energy not to destroy corners or walls only, but to travel around them efficiently and collapse the hardened targets"

"The need for advanced thermobaric explosives have become one of the urgent requirements when the aim is focused on destruction of targeted fortified structures, caves and bunkers. "

 

[NeXoft007]

My answer on Quora regarding Indian Missile Inventory. Suggestions are welcome
https://www.quora.com/What-is-India...nswer/Noor-Alam-382?share=0209a80c&srid=h0N9u

 

[Suryavanshi]

My answer on Quora regarding Indian Missile Inventory. Suggestions are welcome
https://www.quora.com/What-is-India...nswer/Noor-Alam-382?share=0209a80c&srid=h0N9u

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