Ceding Aksai Chin not an option for India

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PRC has a lot more to lose than India if there is a nuke exchange. Occupying Tibet might have provided a buffer to PRC in the 50s, 60s, and 70s, but today, with India having the reach up to Beijing and Shanghai, keeping a grip on Tibet has become a liability for PRC.
exchange? lol
do you have anything to exchange with us?
 

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If you refuse to believe we have nuclear weapons, I refuse to believe that Tibet is a part of China. End of the line.
Tibetans are not Chinese, and nothing is going to change that. Ditto with the East Turkestanis. The best thing is that they don't want to be part of PRC, and want to throw the Chinese out of Tibet and East Turkestan back to China.
 

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I don't think the leaders in India and PRC are going to consider a nuclear war over Aksai Chin, unlike some netizens. Real life is a little bit more than Civilization V. It will be an intense war, and possibly long drawn, but will remain localized.

War there will be, no doubt, but nuclear war, it won't be.

PRC will also think twice before using cruise missiles, because, that would be a massive escalation. India has no way to tell if an approaching missile is a nuke or not. They won't risk that, because an early detection could trigger a panic.

If there is a long draw war, limited to infantry, artillery, and armour, there is a about 50% chance that PLA will lose, despite their numerical superiority.
 

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India army has been enjoying logistic advange over China even before 1962.
That is a total lie... there was no infrastructure worth naming and Indian Army were struggling to put forward its supplies.

The Indian Army even lacked proper clothing to fight in winter...

The main advantage China had that it had the prior experience of fighting a war in korea few years back which India lacked for sometime and was one of the deciding factors...

India should have put in place the forward policy a decade early in early 50's... but Nehru a pacifist under estimated China's motives here and missed the opportunity to free TIBET.

This equivalent concession has been on the table for long time: arunachal pradesh! The only problem is: indians don't think that is a fair deal!
Basically Indian attitude towards this dispute is: there is no dispute on these lands; they are all belong to India!
Arunachal Pradesh was never yours... you retreated from that place in 1962 because you understood very well that logistics does not allow you to have a good hold of the landmass and you are prone to counter attack from Indian Army that will cause major difficulty for you on ground... Militarily it is difficult to hold on to Arunachal Pradesh"¦

You are right Indian does not think it is a fair deal... I can tell you with all fairness INDIA WILL ACCOUNT FOR ALL YOU [CHINA] HAVE DONE TO HELP PAKISTAN TO COUNTER INDIA ... MAKE NOT MISTAKE THOSE ILLIGAL HELP TO PAKISTAN ON THEIR NUCLUEAR & MISSILE WILL BE HAVE TO BE FACTORED OUT... WE CONSIDER IT AS AN ACT OF WAR ON INDIA"¦

India will maintain the status quo on ground and continue to demand whole of the Aksai Chin... whatever be the consequences"¦

I really don't know how you can get that conclusion! How will it play to india's advantage?
In order to keep up the military/political pressure from 2 biggiest neighbours, India has to spend its limited resources on its forces while its industrilization is staggering with the lack of money!
The rapid growth in Military - Industrial complexes that are currently underway are going to provide employment and will contribute to nation's industrial growth at large... The massive technology spin off coming out of various deals from Russia, Israel, Germany, France, UK etc have to have a very good downstream effect on the civilian sector. The military Industrial demand for steel & other infrastructure demands are going to put up India's GDP growth considerably.

India has enough money to spend on its defense needs that take precedence over all other requirements"¦ it is better to be safe than sorry later"¦ India is destined to be a major military power in a decade to come.

India wants to drive the last nail onto the coffin of the UN resolution on Kashmir that is already been dead for more than half a century!! Illegal transfer of land in Kashmir by Pakistan to China and foolish act of providing stapled Visa by China will make resolution to dispute impossible as I see it"¦
 
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I don't think the leaders in India and PRC are going to consider a nuclear war over Aksai Chin, unlike some netizens. Real life is a little bit more than Civilization V. It will be an intense war, and possibly long drawn, but will remain localized.

War there will be, no doubt, but nuclear war, it won't be.

PRC will also think twice before using cruise missiles, because, that would be a massive escalation. India has no way to tell if an approaching missile is a nuke or not. They won't risk that, because an early detection could trigger a panic.

If there is a long draw war, limited to infantry, artillery, and armour, there is a about 50% chance that PLA will lose, despite their numerical superiority.
China will not fight a war leave alone nucluear war... China is in a hurry to solve the border dispute with India...

China has understood that cost it have to pay for continuing holstility with India...
 

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Yes I do!!




The way Nanjin happened...

Was Nanjin planned before ?
Well, NanJing happened when China 's industrial index about 10% of Japan and 3 % of US.
Eg.the steel production : Japan 150 time more than China at that time.
USSR 350
US. 1500
 

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China will not fight a war leave alone nucluear war... China is in a hurry to solve the border dispute with India...

China has understood that cost it have to pay for continuing holstility with India...
We solve problem in a order, and India problem is not the primary for now.
Nuke is the fast and cheapest way to solve it if India problem happened at this time.
Eg. If India launch a full scale war with Pakistan right now.
 

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We solve problem in a order, and India problem is not the primary for now.
Which one is on highest order ??
Nuke is the fast and cheapest way to solve it if India problem happened at this time.
First ensure that you have one... the stolen one may not work now...

Eg. If India launch a full scale war with Pakistan right now.
Pakistan is a dead horse... India does not beat dead one's...
 

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We solve problem in a order, and India problem is not the primary for now.
Nuke is the fast and cheapest way to solve it if India problem happened at this time.
Eg. If India launch a full scale war with Pakistan right now.
yeah, you launch nukes against us and we will do the same against you guys, 100 nukes will make China prosper in future (BTW which city you live in, i will asked them to nuke your city twice just to make sure extra dose of radiation for people around you) :thumb:
 

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Well, NanJing happened when China 's industrial index about 10% of Japan and 3 % of US.
Eg.the steel production : Japan 150 time more than China at that time.
USSR 350
US. 1500
So the index of steel production will ensure that Nanjin will not repeat again ??? Shows your high Chinese IQ...
 

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why is ceding a portion ( not all of it ) of aksai chin a problem ? isnt that already the reality on the ground ? in which case i feel that ccp should maintain the "status quo" and continue with the relative peace that has been prevailing ...it is ccp that has to observe the LAC's and stop provoking by incursions .....and we should have the peace

in reality india has already ceded a portion but is being short-changed

ccp has to learn to play to the rules which they had set to their advantage - but even that is asking for too much it seems ?

if ccp continues with border transgressions - india should consider other economic partners and reduce trade with ccp

- the usa and other wto countries eg asean , japan korea, should also considerr reduxing trade with ccp if they continue to act as an expansionist power, reminiscent of nazi germany
 
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Which one is on highest order ??


First ensure that you have one... the stolen one may not work now...



Pakistan is a dead horse... India does not beat dead one's...
1. You may notice some countries is in panic model in west pacific.
2. I test our nuclear missile with war head at 1969.
3.well, some of of your IA officers want.
 

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