AH-64E Apache attack helicopter

[rkhanna]

just look at your own LCH , and try to improvise it , What it needs a SPS, and FLIR Ball , a MMW Radar, plus missiles

Stop looking foreign malls

its a LIGHT combat aircraft - slated to operate in the upper reaches of the Himalayas you want to stick a MMW Radar on it?!

 

[rkhanna]

Tiger has proven extremely expensive to operate and maintain. It's capabilities have fallen short due to failures of key weapons and sensor systems during development or funding shortfalls from development partners. The program has also suffered from schizophrenic requirement from its founding partner nations (Germany, France and Spain) resulting in several vastly different versions having to be developed concurrently but none reaching full capability or economy of scale. It is in no way comparable to Apache as its weapons capacity is short on many factors. And it has not seen export success, Read on experience of Australia (the only major non-EU customer) and the horror show they have undergone. Same story they are getting with NH-90, to the extent that Australia decided to buy more Blackhawks rather than wait for NH-90's to be fully mission capable

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The Tiger failed most QA requirements when trialed with the Indian Army. Infact rumour has it that it withdrew from trials so that its systems could be upgraded.

Forget about it being a maintaince hog. Just go by the paper specs. The LCH was designed from the ground up to operate in extreme high altitude with its full payload and be nimble enough to work the valleys in a dense MANPAD envoirnment.

The Tiger was built for the plains of Europe.

Simply no comparison.

 

[uoftotaku]

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The Tiger was built for the plains of Europe.

Rightly said, and even failed to achieve full capability in that very basic operating environment

 

[WolfPack86]

When will apache attack helicopter arrive India today and what time. Many reports suggest that apache helicopter to arrive to India 27th July 2019.

 

[Holy Triad]

BREAKING:
First 4 @Boeing_In AH-64E Apaches have arrived in India.

 

[WolfPack86]

First four of the AH-64E Apaches arrive at Hindan Air Force Station - additional four to arrive in the coming week, and the eight will then move to the Patankhot Air Force Station. By 2020, the IAF will operate a fleet of 22 Apaches.

 

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[Lancer]

Those Apaches ought to be handed over to Army Aviation eventually (with most other heli assets) - not just because it makes the most sense, but because it's a total waste to buy a helicopter as badass as the Apache just to paint it boring Tipnis Grey...

 

[WolfPack86]

Via @ANI, first images just in of the @IAF_MCC’s first batch of @Boeing_In AH-64E Apaches that arrived earlier today at the Hindon air base near Delhi.

 

[abingdonboy]

Those Apaches ought to be handed over to Army Aviation eventually (with most other heli assets) - not just because it makes the most sense, but because it's a total waste to buy a helicopter as badass as the Apache just to paint it boring Tipnis Grey...

This debate is over like it or not. Both the IAF and Army will have their own attack helo fleets made up of LCHs, Rudras and Apaches.

22 Apaches for IAF and 39 for the army.

+ the Apache and Chinook look AMAZING in Tipnis grey IMHO

 

[WolfPack86]

The world sure moves in mysterious ways...#Apache out of an #Antonov124 Kudos @IAF_MCC.

 

[WolfPack86]

Here comes the #Apache one of the world’s most advanced multi-role deadly combat helicopter. IAF believe it will be a game changer.

 

[WolfPack86]

Big Boost To Security Forces: 4 Apache Choppers Arrive In India

 

[hit&run]

Big Boost To Security Forces: 4 Apache Choppers Arrive In India

Love the colour; so peaceful to eyes; so deceptive.

 

[binayak95]

This debate is over like it or not. Both the IAF and Army will have their own attack helo fleets made up of LCHs, Rudras and Apaches.

22 Apaches for IAF and 39 for the army.

+ the Apache and Chinook look AMAZING in Tipnis grey IMHO

To add to this, all attack helos, from Rudras to Mi35s to Apaches will be under operational command of the IBGs that the IA is raising.

Ergo, best of both worlds, IAF crews maintain and fly helos as they do best, and IBGs employ them where they see best fit.

 

[Lancer]

This debate is over like it or not. Both the IAF and Army will have their own attack helo fleets made up of LCHs, Rudras and Apaches.

22 Apaches for IAF and 39 for the army.

+ the Apache and Chinook look AMAZING in Tipnis grey IMHO

For now, yea. But in the long run, common sense dictates that heli assets & maybe even the CAS role altogether should be shifted to Army Aviation (w/ a couple squadrons of CAS aircraft to boot). Similarly, it's not totally crazy to expect the Air Force to eventually pass shore defense to the Naval Air Arm.

Air Force should be completely focused on winning air superiority over enemy skies and carrying out strategic missions there (with a solid base for defense of Indian airspace, of course). I would expect this debate to resurface once the IAF gets more of the planes it wants, and the three services begin to mature and move towards much needed things like CDS, theater command, integrated ops etc.

As for colors, that's a matter of personal choice. I'm personally partial to the sorts of color schemes seen on Israeli and some American Apaches.

 

[Holy Triad]

IMAGES: Spotted over the skies of Delhi NCR, the newly arrived, yet to be formally inducted, Apache AH-64E I Attack Helicopters of the #IndianAirForce. Photo courtesy:
@Ashwary61412

 

[vishwaprasad]

Same reason why IAF wants Rafale rather than MiG-35. Russian equipment in the modern day has proven to be all show no go.

Exactly.... Feb 27 has proven it. If we go for Mig 35 instead of Rafales in MRCA 2 then it will be a last mistake we will do as after that enemy won't give us other chance.... Nor will our economy allow us to replace those fighters with western fighters afterwards.....
These Russians will just come up with fake super upgrades , promise you the moon and eat up your money.... They can't even deliver on time.... Bloody cheaters

 

[WolfPack86]

Second batch of IAF Apache helicopters arrives in India
A second batch of four Boeing 'AH-64E(I)' Apache Guardian helicopters for the Indian Air Force (IAF) arrived at the Hindon Air Force Station (AFS) on the outskirts of New Delhi on 30 July.

A Boeing spokesperson told Jane's on 7 August that the four twin-engined rotorcraft, which are part of a USD2.02 billion order placed by the service for 22 of these platforms in 2015, were flown from the United States to India aboard an Antonov An-124 'Condor' strategic airlifter and have joined an equal number of Apache Guardians that were similarly delivered to the same location on 27 July.

Boeing said all eight platforms were delivered a few weeks before schedule, adding that delivery of the remaining 14 Apache Guardians is scheduled to be completed by 2020.

Official IAF sources said the delivered Apaches are being assembled and flight-tested at Hindon AFS before being officially handed over to the IAF by the end of August.

Thereafter, the IAF is expected to fly the aircraft to Pathankot AFS, which is located close to India's border with Pakistan, for their formal induction into the service in early September.

Senior IAF officers said that a squadron of 10 Apache helicopters will be based at Pathankot, while a second squadron is expected to be stationed in northeastern India, close to the country's disputed border with China.

The remaining two Apaches will be held as reserves in the event of accidents or combat losses, they added.

India ordered the Apaches in a deal that combined a Direct Commercial Sales (DCS) with Boeing and a Foreign Military Sales (FMS) agreement with the US government.

The DCS part of the procurement includes the platforms (without engines and sensors), logistical support, spares, and after-sales service.
https://www.janes.com/article/90354/second-batch-of-iaf-apache-helicopters-arrives-in-india

 

[nongaddarliberal]

Second batch of IAF Apache helicopters arrives in India
A second batch of four Boeing 'AH-64E(I)' Apache Guardian helicopters for the Indian Air Force (IAF) arrived at the Hindon Air Force Station (AFS) on the outskirts of New Delhi on 30 July.

A Boeing spokesperson told Jane's on 7 August that the four twin-engined rotorcraft, which are part of a USD2.02 billion order placed by the service for 22 of these platforms in 2015, were flown from the United States to India aboard an Antonov An-124 'Condor' strategic airlifter and have joined an equal number of Apache Guardians that were similarly delivered to the same location on 27 July.

Boeing said all eight platforms were delivered a few weeks before schedule, adding that delivery of the remaining 14 Apache Guardians is scheduled to be completed by 2020.

Official IAF sources said the delivered Apaches are being assembled and flight-tested at Hindon AFS before being officially handed over to the IAF by the end of August.

Thereafter, the IAF is expected to fly the aircraft to Pathankot AFS, which is located close to India's border with Pakistan, for their formal induction into the service in early September.

Senior IAF officers said that a squadron of 10 Apache helicopters will be based at Pathankot, while a second squadron is expected to be stationed in northeastern India, close to the country's disputed border with China.

The remaining two Apaches will be held as reserves in the event of accidents or combat losses, they added.

India ordered the Apaches in a deal that combined a Direct Commercial Sales (DCS) with Boeing and a Foreign Military Sales (FMS) agreement with the US government.

The DCS part of the procurement includes the platforms (without engines and sensors), logistical support, spares, and after-sales service.
https://www.janes.com/article/90354/second-batch-of-iaf-apache-helicopters-arrives-in-india

Amazing. I just wish we ordered more. 40-50 Apaches would have been perfect.