Adnan Jumean
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Here is Iranian MASAF rifle
Dekh bhai Adnan..Here is Iranian MASAF rifle
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My favourite indian weapon is the MSMC i used it alot in black ops 2
it is related to the threadDekh bhai Adnan..
Indx has already told you that you are welcome to post Iranian weapons in a separate thread, rather than derailing existing threads.
On a side note, if you think we don't appreciate Iranian efforts in developing indigenous weapons and equipment, we do. Please enlighten us In a separate thread.
And also...
There are some Abu azrael fans on this forum, you can post latest news about him in a separate thread.
earlier i thought i was reading your post in INSAS thread hence my post. if not , my apologies .it is related to the thread
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Two reasons not to go for it:View attachment 15089 Why we don't consider this? Bushmaster ACR. Can fire 7.62 ...good accuracy, light weight , enough range...if Pakis opted for ARX 200 it will be a good countermeasure .
How the hell are 30-round magazines going to provide covering fire?US Army replacing weapons..........
I remember Black Ops-II having zombies, not MSMC.My favourite indian weapon is the MSMC i used it alot in black ops 2
How the hell are 30-round magazines going to provide covering fire?.
The US Army's rationale behind adopting a 30 round SAW was that previously, insurgents used to specifically target soldiers equipped the M249SAW.How the hell are 30-round magazines going to provide covering fire?
The US Army's rationale behind adopting a 30 round SAW was that previously, insurgents used to specifically target soldiers equipped the M249SAW.
This was because the Support gunner was easily identifiable due to how different his/her weapon looked in comparison to his comrades' M16/M4.
After they adopted the M27IAR (HK-416) in the SAW role, this decreased considerably as the Support gunner now
blends into the team because the M27 looks similar to the others' M16/M4.
Got this nugget of info from a interview of a soldier who had served in Afghanistan.
And of course there are other reasons for a 30 round mag. as @Kunal Biswas has posted above.
I am confused.Indian Army use INSAS & BREN LMG with 30rnd magazine and decides to keep it that way :
1. For use in assault or charging.
2. Carrying heavy load cause fatigue in long run.
3. Extra ammunition carried by other members of that formation besides carrying their own cause fatigue too.
Negav is design for using Magazine so does drum, Which is the correct way ..
If there is an existing thread for infantry organisation, please point me in the right direction All I could find was this:-
Infantry a research
Lets carry out further discussion on this one.
Edit: Found another dead thread. This one died before it was born :
Indian infantry
With regards to your question about firepower, the answer is no, a 30 round box magazine does not make a difference in firepower vis-a-vis a larger mag.I am confused.
I can agree with the mobility and endurance arguments, as well as the argument that the identity of the support gunner should not be given away by the profile of his weapon. But I still do not see how we can convince the enemy to stay down when we are not deploying fire-superiority. In battalion-size engagements, we can rely on MMG crews from the support company. However, what happens if its platoon-size mission (like a combat patrol)?
Maybe we can circumvent this situation by having two LMG gunners in place of one. That way, when one is reloading, the other can keep up the suppresing fire. But then again, they'll need to carry more ammo, so section endurance will still be stressed.
BTW, do we still have the same 7-3 break-up between assault and support groups? If so, what does the support group consist of, apart from the LMG gunner? Is it the RCL guy and his loader/ammo-carrier buddy? Then what about the marksman? Is he not a standard part of the infantry section? Also, do they assign a separate soldier to carry spare barrel and ammo for the LMG?
Another question, are support company platoons attached to companies for company-size missions? If so, is it done on a mission-by-mission basis?
If there is an existing thread for infantry organisation, please point me in the right direction All I could find was this:-
Infantry a research
Lets carry out further discussion on this one.
Edit: Found another dead thread. This one died before it was born :
Indian infantry
Already did. I am currently reading that 37 page document on RMA by Gen Bakshi that @Ray sir quoted on that thread.You can find a lot of information here : http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/indian-infantry-needs-to-modernise-itself.40996/
The thread is a sticky on Indian Infantry developments ..
Well, I was thinking about situations when you need to suppress the enemy for a long enough duration to allow the assault group to move to the next cover. I thought that if the cover is sparse, maybe the 30 round mag will run out before the assault team is done switching covers. But from what you are telling me, US troops did not face such a situation in combat. I did not know that support gunners only fire short bursts to keep the target suppressed. I thought they kept on firing for the entire duration they were supposed to suppress the enemy.With regards to your question about firepower, the answer is no, a 30 round box magazine does not make a difference in firepower vis-a-vis a larger mag.
This is because the soldier with the SAW is able to carry the same amount of ammunition as the M27 and the M249 fire the same 5.56mm round. The only difference is that the ammo is distributed over more mags in case of the M27.
In terms of when firing during combat, while the M27's ammunition will run quicker, it holds an edge in the fact that it can reloaded MUCH quicker. The standard issue M249 is belt fed and while it does have plenty of ammo in the mag once you run out it can be a pain reloading.
Every gunner fires in bursts and while the M27 can be quickly reloaded in between bursts the M249 cannot.
The Americans realized this drawback in the M249 and hence made this:
Being able to quickly reload in the field can make more of a difference than having more ammo in the magazine.
Can't say about your other questions though.
This should clear things out - combat footage from afghanistan.Well, I was thinking about situations when you need to suppress the enemy for a long enough duration to allow the assault group to move to the next cover. I thought that if the cover is sparse, maybe the 30 round mag will run out before the assault team is done switching covers. But from what you are telling me, US troops did not face such a situation in combat. I did not know that support gunners only fire short bursts to keep the target suppressed. I thought they kept on firing for the entire duration they were supposed to suppress the enemy.
Intrestingly, I read that US Marines equip three men in their section with the HK M27 IAR, as a replacement of one M249 gunner.Its the US Marines who use the HK M27 IAR. The US Army still retains the M249 at the squad level. The Marines and the Army have seperate small arms programs.
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