INSAS Indian Small Arms System

[Kunal Biswas]

The round fired by INSAS is also more lethal than standard NATO rounds. And we must not forget that a lighter 5.56 outperforms 7.62x39 in accuracy,etc and also can be carried in a bigger quantity than the latter.

Insas fire only NATO designated SS109 5.56mm FMJ rounds which preform better in longer ranges, And US and most western nation use NATO designated M855 5.56mm FMJ rounds which have better preform in close ranges..

SS109

M855

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Insas is used in CT ops mainly coz its range and accuracy,

They do, But 7.62x39mm is better in killing NATO forces are moving more to 7.62x51 in Astan..

When NATO soldiers in Afghanistan,Iraq can kill Kalashnikov totting militants with 5.56mm rounds,why cant our jawans do the same in JK?

Pics above..

insas is a semiauto unlike full auto 5.56mm rifles used by nato forces also the over length & weight of insas is larger than nato's rifles

Insas have burst option which is accurate and lethal than full auto M4, Nato forces themselves in astan and iraq use M4 in semi and burst..

 

[Bhadra]

Apache Clips - AUSTRALIAN 2CDO HELMET CAM AFGHANISTAN prt1

why are the soldiers so scared and trigger happy ?

 

[Bhadra]

Insas is used in CT ops mainly coz its range and accuracy,

Sorry but you must be talking of some other country !

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Sorry but you must be talking of some other country !

Bhadra ji,

You need to read & See the posts again..

Thank you..

 

[sayareakd]

Sorry but you must be talking of some other country !

you are old hand here, still go through this thread by Kunal sir

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/indian-army/24605-indian-counter-terror-operations-pictures.html

inner ring is of soldiers with AK and outer ring is of soldiers with INSAS.

 

[sayareakd]

Bhadra ji,

You need to read & See the posts again..

Thank you..

Sir you being an office and gentleman is very polite. :thumb:

 

[Bhadra]

you are old hand here, still go through this thread by Kunal sir

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/indian-army/24605-indian-counter-terror-operations-pictures.html

inner ring is of soldiers with AK and outer ring is of soldiers with INSAS.

Saya Ji,
I am old hand at many a things and I do not go by advertisement pictures. Using two types of calibres and weaponry within same sqauad or unit is inviting for big trouble !

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Saya Ji,
I am old hand at many a things and I do not go by advertisement pictures.
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Using two types of calibres and weaponry within same sqauad or unit is inviting for big trouble !

A picture worth 1000 words, If a picture taken in field is not advertising, men there dont pose for photos like in Bollywood..

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That is why multi-caliber in demand..

 

[Bhadra]

A picture worth 1000 words, If a picture taken in field is not advertising, men there dont pose for photos like in Bollywood..

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That is why multi-caliber in demand..

I do not go by the rag tag CT operations of thullas (sorry do not wish to hurt your sentiments)

 

[W.G.Ewald]

why are the soldiers so scared and trigger happy ?

Didn't get that from from the video or from the comments following. Are you just trying to be objectionable? What's your bona fides? A REMF I might guess, if you ever served.

 

[ALBY]

AK-47 & AKM have better stopping power, Same can be done with Insas just re-caliber it, But AKM were imported with higher cost, no argument there..

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aks are imported for a mere 6000 rupees..where as insas costs 25000 .thats another reason no country is risking to buy insas when they could get more reputed 5.56 rifles at a slightly higher price tag.ak100 series are available inthe same price tag or lesser than insas.plus insas is bulkier than all other 5.56 rifles.that too makes it un atttractive in international arms market.,

 

[Bhadra]

aks are imported for a mere 6000 rupees..where as insas costs 25000 .thats another reason no country is risking to buy insas when they could get more reputed 5.56 rifles at a slightly higher price tag.ak100 series are available inthe same price tag or lesser than insas.plus insas is bulkier than all other 5.56 rifles.that too makes it unattractive in international arms market.,

The OFV and DODOs want their own empires growing and intact. It is not only INSAS but Arjun MBT, Tejas, Night sights... all their so called indigenous products are as expensive as foreign built because 80 per cent parts inside are imported foreign mal.

When these DODO guys shout "Foreign Mal" it appears as if they are saying "It is us who should make commission on foreign Foreign Mal rather than the faujies".

Why should forces buy their mal which is full of foreign mal but still inferior and their mal is expensive, defective and no spare parts ! Most of them are mere assemblers. They follow the path of indian hardware industry. What scientist one can become if one enter DODO on the bases of his South Indian Janeu or being an SC / ST (South Indian of course) as if it is a political party.

 

[Bhadra]

Didn't get that from from the video or from the comments following. Are you just trying to be objectionable? What's your bona fides? A REMF I might guess, if you ever served.

sorry, you did not like what is so clear in a drill like video. One does not fire bullets on an empty house all over unless fired at or sure of terrorist presence there. The soldiers are shooting all over without any reason as if shooting for the video rather than being in actual combat.

 

[Bhadra]

A picture worth 1000 words, If a picture taken in field is not advertising, men there dont pose for photos like in Bollywood..

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That is why multi-caliber in demand..

Kunal ji,

Well most of the photos are photo ops and posed. Indian journalist are yet to be bold enough to face bullets.

Multi calibre is demanded for use of the same rifle by changing barrel for different terrain and different operations. Say use 7.62 in CT operations and 5.56 when in conventional operations etc and not for operations within the same time frame and same operations. That would entail soldiers carrying three types of ammunition and three barrels with him defeating the whole purpose.

In CT operations when and where does one fire at 500 meters and 1000 meters ?

 

[pmaitra]

The OFV and DODOs want their own empires growing and intact. It is not only INSAS but Arjun MBT, Tejas, Night sights... all their so called indigenous products are as expensive as foreign built because 80 per cent parts inside are imported foreign mal.

When these DODO guys shout "Foreign Mal" it appears as if they are saying "It is us who should make commission on foreign Foreign Mal rather than the faujies".

Why should forces buy their mal which is full of foreign mal but still inferior and their mal is expensive, defective and no spare parts ! Most of them are mere assemblers. They follow the path of indian hardware industry. What scientist one can become if one enter DODO on the bases of his South Indian Janeu or being an SC / ST (South Indian of course) as if it is a political party.

There are plenty of North Indians too in the various defense establishments, so while you are blaming South Indians, you should also blame North Indians too. Dr. Abdul Kalam is also a South Indian, BTW.

Moreover, there is absolutely no reason to believe SC/STs cannot perform well. Has it ever bothered you that India has plenty of upper caste doctors who got into medical schools by offering donation? For some reason, it is easy to make SC/STs the scapegoats.

 

[sayareakd]

lets not derail the thread.................................................

 

[pmaitra]

^^

You are right Mr. Sayare.

Bhadra, if you want to discuss something not quite related to this thread, please open a new thread.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

sorry, you did not like what is so clear in a drill like video. One does not fire bullets on an empty house all over unless fired at or sure of terrorist presence there. The soldiers are shooting all over without any reason as if shooting for the video rather than being in actual combat.

Really? The question in this thread was about CQB so I posted the video.

A comment from the site:

Yes some amazing footage of our blokes in action.

The ADF never releases anything where the enemy is shown, dead or alive. It releases about 10 minutes of combat footage per year and only if pressed. Whilst im all for maintaining security, the diggers in WW1 got better coverage than these diggers do today.

The ADF and or the Government is trying to have a war without blood. We only get to see our boys coming home in a box. The ----ing left wing do gooders have it all over us I am afraid.

Anyways, firing right off the chopper, ----ing onto those terrys before it hit the deck, then right into the bastards hideouts before you can say cop this you cunt. Was that a shot going past his ear or was it recoil going into the ear of the bloke next door?

Again, Bhadra, I ask, what is your training and experience allowing you to criticize those professionals?

 

[captonjohn]

Really? The question in this thread was about CQB so I posted the video.

A comment from the site:

Again, Bhadra, I ask, what is your training and experience allowing you to criticize those professionals?

I doubt Mr. Bhadra is really serious in this discussions otherwise he wouldn't make such comments. Bhadraji research about it and come with some point with relevant references. Than you'll make sense.