Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau Gets Cold-Shouldered By India For Backing Khalistanis Back Home

[Chimpoo]

So, Canada supplied the nuclear reactor that provided the enriched plutonium for India's first atomic bomb ,They are leaders in nuclear technology and are the biggest exporter of uranium in the world. Canada are currently suppliers of uranium to India.

I was wondering why India was giving Canada so much attention. This is a strategically important relationship.



"Nuclear industry in Canada is an active business and research sector, producing about 15% of its electricity innuclear power plants of domestic design. Canada is the world's largest exporter of uranium, and has the world's second largest proven reserves. Canada also exportsnuclear technology within the terms of the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty, to which it is a signatory, and is the world's largest producer of radioactive medical isotopes."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_industry_in_Canada



"The agreement for uranium supply, which came two years after protracted negotiations following the 2013 civil nuclear deal between India and Canada, was signed after comprehensive talks Prime Minister Narendra Modi had with his Canadian counterpart Stephen Harper.

Cameco Corporation will supply 3,000 metric tonnes of uranium over five years to India at an estimated cost of $254 million and the supply will start from this year, a top official said.

Canada is the third country to supply uranium to India after Russia and Kazakhstan. "

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/can...al-cooperation-pm-narendra-modi-ottawa-755269

 

[shankyz]

NDTV commentators like the Napakis are absolutely shell-shocked and increasingly sullen on the indifferent treatment that their poster child Truedeau's visit has received in India.

These chutiyas were gleefully hoping that Trudeau will walk in and give a dressing down to PM Modi on his home turf and preach about- diversity, tolerance, muslims and what not and that India and GoI will take it all quietly without lube. Trudeau was their great white "enlightened" hope after their first and biggest hope Hillary Rodham Clinton fell aside in 2016.

That Truedeau and Canada have been masterfully played off the pitch has them rubbing their eyes in shock and disbelief. Trudeau has been forced to publicly scale back on some of the issues his backers were hoping he would corner India with.

Do we actually know that GoI allowed his Punjab visit to go ahead only after he went back on his stance that he would NOT meet Punjab CM. Here's the report on that

http://www.livemint.com/Politics/zD...-stage-for-Amarinder-SinghJustin-Trudeau.html



And it's not just India, Canadians back home are making fun of him and his shenanigans, which is not the kind of music these gutless mofos are used to facing- the shoe does not feel good on the other foot does it?

I think you'll find that sullenness and angst and the fewm in the NDTV comment section closely mirrors that of Shitistani papers...

See NDTV's Barkha Dutt's post @ Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-has-himself-to-blame/?utm_term=.74dabde7bef4

 

[abingdonboy]

Some Candians are saying that Atwal is now an Indian (R&AW?) agent and this entire scandel was organised by the GoI to punish Trudeau for his Khalistani support:

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada...al-atwal-from-its-blacklist-why#comments-area


IF this is true, it's a masterclass by Modi (Doval most likely), the fact that Atwal was given a visa is suspect to be honest and it's actually quite well known that in recent years a lot of these "senior" old school Khalistanis have "had a change of heart" and are interacting with the GoI quite often.

 

[Akshay_Fenix]

mehhhh White fascist people................

 

[abingdonboy]

mehhhh White fascist people................

It's not cultural appropriation, that's a BS term invented by SJWs. It's just superficial and immature, hardly the traits you want in a PM, all style no substance.

 

[Akshay_Fenix]

It's not cultural appropriation, that's a BS term invented by SJWs. It's just superficial and immature, hardly the traits you want in a PM, all style no substance.

Meh, Not my PM so Not my headache. Its good to see a white man bend the knee before the all mighty Bharat.

 

[Chimpoo]

Some Candians are saying that Atwal is now an Indian (R&AW?) agent and this entire scandel was organised by the GoI to punish Trudeau for his Khalistani support:

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada...al-atwal-from-its-blacklist-why#comments-area

I don't see how Trudeau could be put in a more embarrassing situation on this, when-as per your link-he had previously back in Canada attended Sikh rallies ,festooned with Khalistan flags and posters of Bhindranwale.

IF this is true, it's a masterclass by Modi (Doval most likely), the fact that Atwal was given a visa is suspect to be honest and it's actually quite well known that in recent years a lot of these "senior" old school Khalistanis have "had a change of heart" and are interacting with the GoI quite often.

Embarrassing would have been somehow slipping in a few ex-Al Qaeda/ISIS members ,on the FBI's most wanted list, in one of those Khalistan events and managing to get Justin photographed next to them.

This looks like a fuck-up on part of the Indian authorities. Admittedly the difference between an intelligence fuck-up or masterstroke is a fine one.

 

[Haldiram]

It's not cultural appropriation, that's a BS term invented by SJWs. It's just superficial and immature, hardly the traits you want in a PM, all style no substance.

I think the tweeter was also saying it sarcastically to pull the leg of their SWJ PM.

 

[Haldiram]

Israeli media on Justin's India visit :


Canadian media having their "it's a moral victory for Canada" moment

 

[mayfair]

Embarrassing would have been somehow slipping in a few ex-Al Qaeda/ISIS members ,on the FBI's most wanted list, in one of those Khalistan events and managing to get Justin photographed next to them.

This looks like a fuck-up on part of the Indian authorities. Admittedly the difference between an intelligence fuck-up or masterstroke is a fine one.

The make up of the visiting delegation is decided by the visiting delegation itself. Hosts have no say or input in these matters, save for providing visas. Anywhere in the world, it is a norm that all those who are part of a delegation are provided visas.

It is imperative on the part of the visiting delegation to avoid including people who have the potential to make diplomatic gaffes. This is why American delegations visiting UK probably would not have included IRA sympathisers, though Irish-Americans formed and still form a substantial vote bank, particularly in the NE USA. JFK himself was of Irish ancestry.

Trudeau delegation included 4 cabinet ministers and 14 MPs, most of them Sikh. Canada has a substantial non-Sikh, non-Punjabi expat population from the subcontinent. Tamils form a huge chunk of them. If Trudeau's visit was about reaching out to the subcontinental diaspora, he could have planned a trip to Chennai as well and included a token Tamil representation in his vast flying circus.

That never happened. Not only did he filled the plane with Sikh ministers and MPs, all of them with pronounced Khalistani proclivities, to make it worse his delegation, which was controlled by his minister Sajjal Singh and MP Sarai, included Jaspal Atwal, a self-confessed and convicted terrorists and Manvir Singh Saini, who was doing this in 2015.

and this

Do spot the unturbaned chootiya in there. Not sure of he's a Sikh or a Napaki.

Basically this is no different from including an IRA sympathiser on a trip to UK or al AlQaeda-ISIS sympathiser on a visit to anywhere else.

Basically Trudeau and Kaneda tried to be clever and a half and it spectacularly backfired on them.

 

[dhananjay1]

cold shoulder my butt. If India or modi was giving Trudeau a cold shoulder or snubbing him, he would not have brought his family along with big hugs nore would have india played to this facade of trudeau.
I believe the media is doing what it does best, making this an issue for Trudeau in canadian politics and trying to sell the khalistani threat in india and canada. When was it that a sikh is not indian anymore but a khalistani and a rss hindu is patriot. indeed a twisted narrative. it is the blood of sikhs that has cemented the wall with pakistan, yet its all too easy to forget this just because of payed media. the hindu owes sikhs a debt that can not be repayed in 10 reincarnations.

Hindus owe Sikhs jackshit. Nothing. Zilch. If there were no Sikihism there would be more Hindus. Sikhism is detrimental to Hindus. Net contribution of Sikhs to Hindus is to reduce their numbers. 10 reincarnations....

 

[Chimpoo]

The make up of the visiting delegation is decided by the visiting delegation itself. Hosts have no say or input in these matters, save for providing visas. Anywhere in the world, it is a norm that all those who are part of a delegation are provided visas.

It is imperative on the part of the visiting delegation to avoid including people who have the potential to make diplomatic gaffes. This is why American delegations visiting UK probably would not have included IRA sympathisers, though Irish-Americans formed and still form a substantial vote bank, particularly in the NE USA. JFK himself was of Irish ancestry.

Trudeau delegation included 4 cabinet ministers and 14 MPs, most of them Sikh. Canada has a substantial non-Sikh, non-Punjabi expat population from the subcontinent. Tamils form a huge chunk of them. If Trudeau's visit was about reaching out to the subcontinental diaspora, he could have planned a trip to Chennai as well and included a token Tamil representation in his vast flying circus.

That never happened. Not only did he filled the plane with Sikh ministers and MPs, all of them with pronounced Khalistani proclivities, to make it worse his delegation, which was controlled by his minister Sajjal Singh and MP Sarai, included Jaspal Atwal, a self-confessed and convicted terrorists and Manvir Singh Saini, who was doing this in 2015.

...............

Basically this is no different from including an IRA sympathiser on a trip to UK or al AlQaeda-ISIS sympathiser on a visit to anywhere else.

Basically Trudeau and Kaneda tried to be clever and a half and it spectacularly backfired on them.

Eh .Ultimately,it's up to Indians- more specifically the Ministry of External Affairs to determine whether a foreign private citizen is or is not allowed into the country. It's not like Mr Atwal entered the country,with Trudeau's entourage,under diplomatic immunity.

Besides, Jaspal Atwal had been removed form the blacklist of Sikh terrorist synpathisers a few months ago. it;s not like the MInistry of External Affairs could have foreseen in advance Trudeau's invitation to him on his trip to India.


Come to think of it,if the Indian authorities wanted to embarrass Trudeau,without appearing incompetent, they could have stopped Atwal at passport control, refused entry,and then sent him packing on the next available flight back to Canada. Also, they could have invited the Indian press and TV crews to record for the benefit of the entire world how India robustly deals with unwelcome troublemakers,trying to enter the country.


As,for foreign IRA sympathisers and Britian,plenty of them are free to come and go,especially after the Northern Ireland peace process ,in the 90's. Of course,during the time of the Troubles, an IRA member wanted for questioning by British authorities,might well have avoided entering Britain. Britain still bans what they see as undesirable foreign nationals from entry into the UK . A couple of notable Americans banned from the UK are Louis Farrakhan the black supremacist leader of the Nation of Islam or oddly enough the American conservative commentator,Michael Savage,for anti-Islam remarks.

Do spot the unturbaned chootiya in there. Not sure of he's a Sikh or a Napaki

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There is certainly at the very minimum informal cooperation going on between the Khalistan movement and pro-Pakistan elements. I went to the Dal Khalsa UK Facebook and quite a few images with anti-Modi,anti-Hindutva and pro-Kashmiri separatist messages.

 

[mayfair]

Eh .Ultimately,it's up to Indians- more specifically the Ministry of External Affairs to determine whether a foreign private citizen is or is not allowed into the country. It's not like Mr Atwal entered the country,with Trudeau's entourage,under diplomatic immunity.

The question is not about Atwal getting into India. This is a separate matter. The question is why was he a part of Canadian delegation and specifically invited by Surrey MP Sarai?

Besides, Jaspal Atwal had been removed form the blacklist of Sikh terrorist synpathisers a few months ago. it;s not like the MInistry of External Affairs could have foreseen in advance Trudeau's invitation to him on his trip to India.

Precisely, the process started two years ago and culminated in April 2017 and was a part of our outreach. This was way before Turdaeau's trip was even conceived- that happened only in November 2017, when PM Modi and Trudeau met on the sidelines at Davos. What business did Canada government have in getting into this matter?

But the Khalistani lobby could not stop themselves from thinking that this was an opportunity to stick it to India. After having de-blacklisted Atwal, India was not going to "blacklist" him again. Canada were first advised to re-think his inclusion. they refused. So Atwal was allowed to come in, however, the emboldened Khalistani lobby decided that he should be a part of official events as that would stick it to India. This is where GoI stepped in and the media glare made sure that Atwal's invitation was rescinded.

Come to think of it,if the Indian authorities wanted to embarrass Trudeau,without appearing incompetent, they could have stopped Atwal at passport control, refused entry,and then sent him packing on the next available flight back to Canada. Also, they could have invited the Indian press and TV crews to record for the benefit of the entire world how India robustly deals with unwelcome troublemakers,trying to enter the country.

That's the point. GoI had no intentions of "humiliating" Trudeau, he brought it all upon himself. Like I said above, blacklisting Atwal after our own outreach less than a year ago, would have been counter-productive for our interests and our outreach to dissatisfied members of the Sikh diaspora in the long term. What the Khalistani lobby has succeeded in doing is muddying the waters for more such initiatives in the future. Perhaps this was their intention all along.

As,for foreign IRA sympathisers and Britian,plenty of them are free to come and go,especially after the Northern Ireland peace process ,in the 90's. Of course,during the time of the Troubles, an IRA member wanted for questioning by British authorities,might well have avoided entering Britain. Britain still bans what they see as undesirable foreign nationals from entry into the UK . A couple of notable Americans banned from the UK are Louis Farrakhan the black supremacist leader of the Nation of Islam or oddly enough the American conservative commentator,Michael Savage,for anti-Islam remarks.

The point is which IRA sympathisers who would have been "de-blacklisted" AFTER the NI peace process accompanied official delegations from US or Canada into UK? I think you'll find that the answer is very close to zero.

In this instance, Canadian delegation and those advising them were expecting that Indian would quietly grin and bear it and when the visit went belly up, they are scrambling for explanations. Hence, we see the conspiracy theories about rogue Indian elements and what not and getting panned across Canada in the process. These people in their arrogance NEVER EVER expected India to show spine and now are whining and moaning about moral victory.

Their preparations on this visit can be judged from a mere look at the "delegation" that arrived. Other countries come with business leaders, academics and economists to further trade ties. Trudeau brought along 4 ministers and 14 MPs, and not one agreement of significant note in the trade between the two countries was signed. Contrast this with PM Modi's visit to Canada and former Canadian PM Harper's visit to India. Heck chuck that, out of 7 days, Trudeau was busy doing bhangra and dress up all over the land, while Iranian president Rouhani in a single day trip handed over Chabahar to India.

The trip was doomed to become an embarrassment for Trudeau and Canada once the make-up of the delegation became evident.

There is certainly at the very minimum informal cooperation going on between the Khalistan movement and pro-Pakistan elements. I went to the Dal Khalsa UK Facebook and quite a few images with anti-Modi,anti-Hindutva and pro-Kashmiri separatist messages.

There's a full fledged alliance and that is not even a secret.

 

[hit&run]

Trudeau was too much dependent on his ministers and aides of Indian origin. They screwed it up for him especially the optics part.

The whole issue happened because Modi didn't received him at the airport and the objections started coming first from his canadian detractors as well as supports of Indian origin.

Every one started interpreting it further to suit their understanding and agenda.

 

[mayfair]

^^ I have a slightly different take on it.

PM Modi does not receive everyone at the airport- he broke the protocol only a few times to receive leaders with whom he had close understanding or those who himself received him at the airport such as Abe, Netanyahu or the UAE crown prince, in recent times. I do not recall such a welcome for Theresa May or other European leaders who came visiting.

The standard protocol is what Trudeau got- no more no less. It is to arrogance of the Canadians that they expected Indian PM to be there waiting at the tarmac. Indo-Canadaian relationship is neither at that level nor so important in the grand scheme of things yet. This was an opportunity to do so and build upon the previous trips. But Trudeau bollxed it up.

Regarding the influence, I believe @hit&run you should call it out for what it is- it was not just any Indian origin MPs, it was specifically pro-Khalistan Canadian ministers and leaders all of whom happen to be Sikhs of Indian ancestry. It was not only them, the statements by Trudeau's man friday, his NSA Daniel jean who would have had a bigger say in these matters and who is probably also the "unnamed senior official" blaming this on "rogue elements in GoI", suggest that this line of thinking had support all across Trudeau's party, cutting across ethnic lines..

Tudeau and his entourage expected that they would walk in and tell the Indians- this is what it is and you have no say in the matter and you'll do well to grin and like it.

GoI replied- Nope, sorry, not having that. On our turf, you by our rules or you can keep your collective arses back in Ottawa where you belong.

Canadians still walked in thinking - Bah these turd world Indians, what do they know. Listen you cow- worshiping snake-charming gollies, you should be privileged that Trudeau is actually visiting your shithole of a country and you better like it.

GoI- Go stuff yerself, mothercanuckers.

And the rest as they say is history..

 

[ezsasa]

Views of Justin zoolander Trudeau’s competition.

 

[hit&run]

^^ I have a slightly different take on it.

PM Modi does not receive everyone at the airport- he broke the protocol only a few times to receive leaders with whom he had close understanding or those who himself received him at the airport such as Abe, Netanyahu or the UAE crown prince, in recent times. I do not recall such a welcome for Theresa May or other European leaders who came visiting.

The standard protocol is what Trudeau got- no more no less. It is to arrogance of the Canadians that they expected Indian PM to be there waiting at the tarmac. Indo-Canadaian relationship is neither at that level nor so important in the grand scheme of things yet. This was an opportunity to do so and build upon the previous trips. But Trudeau bollxed it up.

Regarding the influence, I believe @hit&run you should call it out for what it is- it was not just any Indian origin MPs, it was specifically pro-Khalistan Canadian ministers and leaders all of whom happen to be Sikhs of Indian ancestry. It was not only them, the statements by Trudeau's man friday, his NSA Daniel jean who would have had a bigger say in these matters and who is probably also the "unnamed senior official" blaming this on "rogue elements in GoI", suggest that this line of thinking had support all across Trudeau's party, cutting across ethnic lines..

Tudeau and his entourage expected that they would walk in and tell the Indians- this is what it is and you have no say in the matter and you'll do well to grin and like it.

GoI replied- Nope, sorry, not having that. On our turf, you by our rules or you can keep your collective arses back in Ottawa where you belong.

Canadians still walked in thinking - Bah these turd world Indians, what do they know. Listen you cow- worshiping snake-charming gollies, you should be privileged that Trudeau is actually visiting your shithole of a country and you better like it.

GoI- Go stuff yerself, mothercanuckers.

And the rest as they say is history..

Well I am not going to dwell into conspiracy theories because it will give them new ammunition to abuse Modi.

Keep them confuse, Like you said rest is History :biggrin2:.

Lessons from Obama's visit must have been accounted into, no doubt.

Erstwhile I meant to say; his detractors and supporter both made an issue of Modi not hugging him at the airport.

Of Course GoI/Modi did nothing wrong as the protocol was adhere to.

It was his inventory that instead having official meetings at the start he opted to travel around with his family.

Undie TV's spin Doctor who also give their reporters advice on twitter how to corner BJP; once a nationalist Ambassador KC SIngh even blamed GOI for making his schedule like this but later we found it was GoC who asked for these engagements.

 

[Pash]

Of course everybody has the right to determine their individual faith. However, just stating the obvious which will be common knowledge to anybody who grew up in Punjab. @hit&run and @AnantS or @Pash can verify.

Anyway, carry on. Call me Khalistani or not, my loyalty is towards India. Jai Hind.

My concern was why to paint all of the community in one paint? Why to say Hindus or Sikhs have debit on each other and have to pay. Both are equal and then to bring Army in it and all other, Terrorists are bad in any form. Good and bad people are every where irrespective of Religion, Race, Caste and Nationality etc.
I can write long on why some communities are more in Army and others not.
If I have hurt someone I am sorry, it was not my motif and reason to write. Don't paint and community in one color.

 

[Pash]

Of course everybody has the right to determine their individual faith. However, just stating the obvious which will be common knowledge to anybody who grew up in Punjab. @hit&run and @AnantS or @Pash can verify.

Anyway, carry on. Call me Khalistani or not, my loyalty is towards India. Jai Hind.

My concern was why to paint all of the community in one paint? Why to say Hindus or Sikhs have debit on each other and have to pay. Both are equal and then to bring Army in it and all other, Terrorists are bad in any form. Good and bad people are every where irrespective of Religion, Race, Caste and Nationality etc.
I can write long on why some communities are more in Army and others not.
If I have hurt someone I am sorry, it was not my motif and reason to write. Don't paint and community in one color.

 

[Bharat Ek Khoj]

the hindu owes sikhs a debt that can not be repayed in 10 reincarnations.

But you don't need reincarnation to say thank you to Mehta kalu and Tripta Devi.