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Seems that there is a great amount of weapons in his deal. But on the other side Turkey is blocked. The USA may offer a bad deal, Turkey is nearly forced to take it....

The spares are in the support deal. In France it is 2 dedicated contracts : RAVEL for the bird and BOLERO for the engine. In the Indian IAF first deal (the 7.9billion € deal for 36 bird with weapons, support, special features, base accomodation...), it was included in the whole package, with a...

This is the price for just 42 bird. A "dry" price as I used to say. So without support (it is another contract in France), without weapon, without training facilities. Just I think it is with 20% VAT.

The "dry" price of Rafale, without VAT (the french air force price may integrate 20% VAT.... I'm not sure), was some years ago in the 75€ million each without VAT (so the case of an export deal). Let's say it is now 90 million/piece in the F4 std. Problems in the indian case are : You want...

MK2 is an afordable solution, to have quantity, because quantity is a quality in itself ! TEDBF is a twin engine bird, on a drawing board stage when MK2 is more mature. I don't understand why you don't merge AMCA and TEDBF.

India already have a "F15EX like" bird : Su30 MKI And Indian air force clearly has a nightmare to manage with too many differents aircraft on duty, it's not ta add another one when Rafale is already in the arsenal. => There will be at least another Rafale deal for IAF. The sole question...

Wait and see.... Nothing is so easy with India.

gen 5 is a LM propaganda. And F35 is not a 5th gen according to own LM rules (not super cruising at least). With the proliferation of low band radars (on ground) and multistatic ones, stealth is a decreasing value.

5.5 billions cleared for 26 Rafale (22 x M and 4 x B) https://aninews.in/news/national/general-news/india-gives-letter-of-request-to-france-for-buying-26-rafale-m-fighter-jets-for-navy20231027220359/

Tejas and Tejas mk2 are not competing in the same league than Rafale. They are not made for the same purpose. And Tejas mk2 is for now only a mock up. It will takes at least 10 years to see the first operationnal one in a sqd. Not to speak of the rythm of the production.

F15 = same league than Su30 = heavy. No need to have the two in the same fleet, specially when there is a huge upgrade on the agenda for Su30. Rafale = medium fighter. Gripen = light fighter = in competition with Tejas. No way. So the 3 competitors are like Apple vs Orange vs Strawberry. All...

https://thewire.in/security/france-us-fighter-jet-dassault-tech-rafale

You are right, and this is why Gripen has no chance. Add that Gripen is, as Tejas :scared2: , subject to CAATSA sanctions, and/or export restrictions. Not good.

The place is already taken by Rafale thanks to the first 36 units order.

The EF2000 commercial life is already over.

I agree : no need of Rafale for point defense mission, but the contrary is not true. You need more than 36 deep strike fighters, and Tejas even in mk2 is not made for.

LCA , in every models, is not to compare to Rafale family. A point defense fighter versus a deep strike fighter. More or less like to compare Mig 21 and Su30.

No way. Only relevant if there was not a Rafale order before. Now the door is closed.

Indeed. I forget this one. It was a beautifull bird.

The weakness of F16 is always the same since it evolves : the wings are the same since first block, and made for a pure air to air light jet. If you increase the load you increase angle of attack, so drag. Only possible with a bigger engine, consumming more fuel with the same fuel capacity ...