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Bornubus

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I am in a conception that it was instigated by BJP against themselves to sideline the JNU. As this was getting into nerves, more over, it gave a very bad image of Indians too.

Such things are not good for society, except for its exposure.
Next u wil say it was a conspiracy of Illuminati.

Now why and how could BJP do such a thing which resulted in the loss of millions of $ and death of our own people after deploying army ?

Strengthening the Economy is the priority of NDA, Railway alredy lost 300 crore plus in few days.

We need people like Modi for atleast 10 years to recover from the rot other have done in the past.
 

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I agree. This type of cowardly separatism is a wound that just won't heal. And only because we let it fester.

When will our leaders authorize the use of deadly and preemptive strikes against these scum hiding in the guise of secularism and using the 'Right of Expression' as a shield?? Will they do it when the number of our martyred soldiers start to exceed the population of Kashmir??:frusty:

We (as a nation) are not in the business of giving land to every ****** who asks for it. If the separatists want a different country, let Pakistan give them Karachi or Islamabad or whatever other dirt pit they crawl in. The government does not seem to understand this.

Italians kill our people, Sri Lanka says it will shoot our fishermen, and then there are these jihadis, racists and the anti national cockroaches who live among us and disrespect those who die fighting for this country.

The value of an Indian life is not a commodity; it is not less just because there are more of us. We, and our soldiers are not expendable. If the world does not understand this, maybe we should not care anymore. Our leaders should just rid this country of such people and act irrespective of what the world (UK, US propaganda hounds) will think.

I wait for this government to deliver, but when??

PS: As the name of the topic suggests, an example for a solution:-
Let us put all these separatists on a wooden raft and set them adrift somewhere in the ocean. Or I hear Antarctica is a prime piece of real estate for ********.who keep demanding a separate country. And they have freedom of speech as well (even their teeth can keep chattering)
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Since when Sri lanka develop the balls to kill Indian fishermen, tiny sri lanka and irrelevant Italy to dictate India.

The real threat is from Pak and China.
 

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Next u wil say it was a conspiracy of Illuminati.

Now why and how could BJP do such a thing which resulted in the loss of millions of $ and death of our own people after deploying army ?

Strengthening the Economy is the priority of NDA, Railway alredy lost 300 crore plus in few days.

We need people like Modi for atleast 10 years to recover from the rot other have done in the past.
I agree with you. The BJP didn't instigate the riots, the Congress did. The BJP did however mismanage it. I believe they should have been more forthcoming with their willingness to give reservation to Jats. I am not in favor of reservations in principle, and want them to be scrapped completely, but as long as it exists, we should make sure that the benefits of it go to Dharmics as much as possible and not to fake Dalits who are crypto-Abrahamics. Jats, Marathas, Kapus, Patidars are pro India communities who have contributed a lot to the nation, these communities, including Sikhs should be the ones who get benefits as a token of appreciation for the sacrifices that the members of these communities have made for the nation. 'Either give it to us or remove it completely' is a totally legitimate demand of any community, I will always support this stand. The BJP mismanaged this one by denying reservations to Jats. If christians and muslims can claim the benefits of reservations by claiming to be obc muslim and obc christians, why can't Jats have a legitimate claim?

In that context one is right to blame the BJP. But what @Screambowl is saying is completely different. I don't think the BJP instigated the riots. They merely mismanaged the situation and things spiraled. It's not in BJP's interest to have any disharmony.
 

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Kashmiris also use the famous Taqaiya treachery for example Col M.N Rai was killed in in this manner, he was called to the home of a Jihadi by his abba and col went with few troops and tried to convinced him to surrender as he was a post graduate young guy but that fucker shot him him cold blood after he promised to lay down arms.
recall the early part of the movie 'haider' & what was shown in it (totally opposite of the above).
a beautiful example of the rotten heads in our midst - there was a thread on a popular Indian tech-forum about Agniveer publishing letters from an ex-soldier critical of the aforementioned movie. people there were discussing about how 'art should be kept separate from politics' & all such crap & feeling like sirs. one chap had the gall to contemptuously disregard the soldier on the premise that 'how stupid are these people to associate their personal feelings with a form of art' & that what's shown in the movie is close to reality, something of the sort. going through that thread felt like a tour through a pig farm. and months later, the unfortunate incident of Col. Rai's martyrdom happened.

those who are under the (false) impression that its only the JNU types or arts/humanities kind that get involved in such demagoguery as the one we are witness to, are incorrect, and in for a surprise if they were to visit some techie-dens (discounting bunny-holes like reddit), albeit am not generalising (for i've seen better too over time).
 

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Some pics from #MarchForUnity

कन्हैया समर्थकों को जिस तरह
से कोर्ट परिसर में मारा गया है…

हम उसकी कड़ी निंदा करते हैं,
और मारो सालों को हम फिर से
निंदा कर देंगे…!! :pound:






:rofl::rofl::rofl:
easily, quote of the week! :clap2:
 

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Delhi Police is surely laughing at the stupidity of these good terrorists, instead of cooperating they are refusing to surrender, which may weaken their case in the court.

Seems to me that certain JNU professors are using these students as shield, they know for sure that the ringmasters will not be spared either.

 
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recall the early part of the movie 'haider' & what was shown in it (totally opposite of the above).
a beautiful example of the rotten heads in our midst - there was a thread on a popular Indian tech-forum about Agniveer publishing letters from an ex-soldier critical of the aforementioned movie. people there were discussing about how 'art should be kept separate from politics' & all such crap & feeling like sirs. one chap had the gall to contemptuously disregard the soldier on the premise that 'how stupid are these people to associate their personal feelings with a form of art' & that what's shown in the movie is close to reality, something of the sort. going through that thread felt like a tour through a pig farm. and months later, the unfortunate incident of Col. Rai's martyrdom happened.

those who are under the (false) impression that its only the JNU types or arts/humanities kind that get involved in such demagoguery as the one we are witness to, are incorrect, and in for a surprise if they were to visit some techie-dens (discounting bunny-holes like reddit), albeit am not generalising (for i've seen better too over time).
Actually it is this myth that 'arts and politics is different' that has led to our doom. During partition, it was the so called artists, Urdu Ghazal singers, Shayars, literary experts and of course 'intellectuals' who started a viscous campaign or replacing all Sanskrit origin words from the language with Arab and Persian words. Change in language leads to loss of identity, which leads to a change in perception, which lead to change in thinking, which leads to a change in politics, which is what led to change in laws and eventually resulted in the partition of India. All of this because some artists planted the seed of an idea which claimed that the muslims of the sub-continent shared a different heritage from others and that the difference are so great that unless they demand and get a separate land, there can be no peace. This was the point from where the seeds of separatism were sown. So the same people who stood united during the 1857 rebellion against British, were fighting against each other because some 'artists' planted that idea in their mind. Art is the heart of politics, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Art is the most eloquent form of elucidating political opinions. It is the overt expression of a covert political agenda.

When Aamir Khan tries to build strawman arguments in his movies claiming the entire religion of Hinduism to be just an irrational superstition (then goes to Haj to find peace) or when he claims that there is intolerance, don't dismiss it as just an artist expressing an opinion, it's the same poison his ancestors spewed just a few decades ago which led to the partition of our motherland and the massacre of millions of Hindus. Unfortunately Hindus never learn from their mistakes.
 
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Yo, sir. Evidence has come up that Congress ex-CM Hooda was behind all this.

https://soundcloud.com/user-413706046-598450004/congress-burning-haryana-exposed

It has gone viral on the hashtag : http://twitter.com/search?q=#CongressBurningHaryana

In other news,


In that case, I will have to change my conception, but in the beginning even if it was done to shut up anti India sentiments being spread, it would be legitimate. After this, there is much more stronger belief that , congress wanted to enforce emergency in the nation. They had tried their very best to instigate the protest, this we have been observing past 2 weeks.

Had modi had committed the mistake of Indira gandhi, then it would have been ' the End'. But cleverly, anti reservation slogans, anti JNU slogans started coming out of people itself and general public.

One thing is clear, there is very strong general public support to BJP. The people have understood, the term vote bank politics.
 

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Arjun : Vasudev mujhe Duryodhan ka palda bhari hota dikhayi de raha hai
Vasudev : Ye Ranbhumi hai parth yahan vyapariyo ki bhasha na bolo

Baniya Janta Party is every bit complicit in whatever is going on, make no mistake about it. You cannot convince me anymore that its some grandiose chanakya niti plan behind their actions.
 
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Anybody who thinks Khalid is an atheist communist who is fighting against capitalism faking his love for Vemula,dalits and Adivasi is just a fool.

when Deepak chaurasia asked Kanha that he consider Kashmir is an occupied territory,he evaded the question but said i consider myself a slave (main apne ap ko gulam mehsus karta hun)

He is just an another Islamist pig who consider Hafeez as freedom fighter. And its a shame to compare them with Mao and communist ideology is followed elsewhere.Can you imagine a Vietnamese or Chinese think of disintegration of their nation on the contrary these support continuous expansion of their territories through force.

If India really had any true communist party it would've have call for an annexation of POK,Tibet and Aksai Chin but here these retard claiming Kashmir and manipur is an occupied territory of India.

Umar is just a young Jihadi masquerading as a comrade,he should be deported to Syria where he could be beheaded in sectarian bullshit.
 

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How to break the back of India’s Left-wing ecosystem

The fracas surrounding the events at New Delhi’s Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU) has once again ignited debates about freedom of expression, India’s education system and the exercise of state power.

Economist Sanjeev Sanyal wrote recently about the inescapable sway of Left-wing ideology across intellectual life in India. Not only does the Indian Left enjoy state patronage and a pervasive grip on academia, it has a long history of being viciously intolerant towards contrary viewpoints. Economist and member of Niti Aayog Bibek Debroy had recounted recently how renowned Columbia University trade economist Jagdish Bhagwati was forced out of Delhi School of Economics in the 1950s. As Sanyal writes, “The Left dominance over the intellectual establishment has its roots in the systematic ‘ethnic cleansing’ of all non-Left thinkers since the 1950s…the result of the systematic cleansing was that there were no non-Left academics remaining in the social sciences field in India by the early 1990s.” Sanyal closes his article by saying that “there needs to be a wider national debate about bringing greater plurality of thought in India’s intellectual establishment”.

The intolerance of the Left is nothing new. Such is the hypocrisy of those who wail about freedom of expression that while JNU’s student activists demand tolerance when they call for more individuals like convicted terrorist Mohammed Afzal to emerge from every home—something eminent jurist and former attorney general Soli Sorabjee said would qualify as “incitement” and “was not a borderline case” under current Indian law—the supposedly open-minded and freedom-loving student community railed against Baba Ramdev when he was to address a gathering at the JNU campus.

In the political sphere, Left parties have employed incredible violence to achieve their ends. According to an article in the Mainstream Weekly published in 2010, the Communist Party of India (Marxist)-led Left Front coalition that governed West Bengal from 1977-2009 committed over 55,000 political murders.

Centre for Policy Research president Pratap Bhanu Mehta, routinely feted as India’s finest public intellectual, waxed eloquent on constitutional patriotism and liberal democracy in a column castigating the government for its actions at JNU, charging the government with threatening democracy itself. For all the frothy, highfalutin prose about freedom of speech, Mehta failed to muster the courage to speak for the free speech rights of firebrand politician Kamlesh Tiwari, who enraged members of the Muslim community because of his comments about their prophet, and was promptly jailed. Celebrity TV anchors and the liberal intelligentsia bleating today about press freedom also looked the other way when Shirin Dalvi, an editor of Urdu newspaper Avadhnama, was arrested for re-printing the Charlie Hebdo cartoons. Dalvi subsequently lost her job and the newspaper had to be shut down.

Constitutional patriotism isn’t an absolute moral philosophy that lives in a vacuum—it exists in the context of India’s Constitution. Try as they may, the reality is that our Constitution is far less liberal than our “liberals” would like to pretend. It expressly does not allow for unrestricted, absolute freedom of speech. Yet, it is the norm for Indian liberals to outrage when it is convenient to them—and pretend they are being constitutionally patriotic—even as they never dare make the case for injecting greater liberalism into constitutional statute.

Those who advocate for freedom of speech cannot be selective. Selective outrage in the JNU case signals that it is acceptable to suppress free speech to appease members of the Muslim community, but speech cannot be suppressed to assuage those against the organized advocacy of India’s disintegration. What does that say about the biases of India’s “liberals”, and their commitment to principle?

But it is tiresome to repeat the charge of hypocrisy against the “liberal” clique. The greater project for the Indian right remains how to impair and cripple the entrenched Left-wing ecosystem. Such impairment is a worthy pursuit, for a panoply of Left-wing ideas in society and the economy have been tried for over six decades since India’s independence, with unsatisfactory results to put it mildly: on a per capita basis, India remains among the poorest countries in the world, despite its wealth of human and natural resources.

As Sanyal was careful to point out, it is not that “the overwhelming dominance of the Left should be replaced by a similar dominance of the Right”—what India needs is a marketplace of ideas, and like for any market, one certainly cannot expect the incumbent force (that is, the Indian Left-wing) to willingly cede space to new entrants.

This is where the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), as the political vehicle for the Indian right-wing, is screwing up monumentally. Its approach so far has been to use the agency of state power to replace left-wingers with right-wingers. This was the same approach that the previous BJP-led government under Atal Bihari Vajpayee had adopted. It failed then, and will fail this time too.

The truth is this isn’t even a strategy—it is a reaction. BJP needs to move from reactionary, knee-jerk responses precipitated by random events to putting in place a strategy that systematically undermines the power of this decades-old ecosystem. The solution is straightforward—this task is better executed by society’s initiative rather than state fiat. If the education market is opened to competition, the castles built by the Left which require state patronage for sustenance will collapse on their own for they have no real moats—government protection is the moat that is keeping them in business.

This would entail, for instance, transferring responsibility for the management and administration of all central universities to boards of trustees composed of the institution’s alumni, requiring institutions to raise funds on their own, pushing them to create and manage their own endowments, enabling institutions to define their own academic curriculum and personnel compensation strategies, allowing foreign universities to set up campuses in India, permitting for-profit schools and universities, and reallocating government funding to individuals rather than institutions in the form of scholarships and student vouchers.

Such reforms would invite massive pushback from the special interest groups that would be hurt by the changes. These groups may include teacher unions, left-wing activist organizations and sponsors of minority-run institutions, who enjoy much more freedom already thanks to their minority status. But taking on the pushback has both short-term and long-term payoffs—the neo-middle class, to use Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s coinage, is a far bigger group that would benefit from competition in the education sector. The growth and prosperity of this group is incontestably in the national interest. This neo-middle class pays a heavy price from the protection afforded to special interest groups in education

Inarguably, nothing matters more to Indian parents from any strata of society than providing a good education to their children. Whether it is admission for kindergarten, school or college, practically every middle class Indian family—and every Indian family that aspires to join the ranks of the neo-middle class—suffers severe stress to obtain access to education for their children. On the back of the demographic dividend, demand for quality education far outstrips supply. Corruption and bribery is rampant, and even reputable private institutions (including those run by the minority community under special rules) frequently extort under-the-table money from hapless, helpless parents in exchange for admission to their wards. Once again, it is not the rich that are hurt the most, but the poor and middle classes. Those who can afford it send their children to study abroad.

As there is increased competition with liberalization, left-wing citadels will be forced to adapt or they will fail. Moreover, there is little reason to fear the pushback inevitable when pursuing the liberalization agenda because the pushback is happening in any case, as BJP governments at the Centre and in states clumsily attempt to appoint right-wing individuals in place of left-wing individuals. The difference is while short-term political costs are incurred by the current approach, no long-term benefits are accruing.

The most effective way to ensure the long-term impairment of India’s entrenched Left-wing ecosystem is to throw open the education market to competition. It is also the cheapest, for it would not require expending government revenue, which can be invested to improve India’s national defence and security, alongside providing for the welfare of the poorest through direct benefit transfers. The economic rationale and political calculus for liberalizing higher education is self-evident—it is the will to drive structural changes that has been absent from the Narendra Modi government.


http://www.livemint.com/Opinion/K7B...ak-the-back-of-Indias-Leftwing-ecosystem.html
 

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Im sad the way Indian media always protects the traitors. Is there no way we can correct the media, i don't want media to become a modi bhakt but at least they know how to react and unite the janta on such anti national issues. :(
 

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Im sad the way Indian media always protects the traitors. Is there no way we can correct the media, i don't want media to become a modi bhakt but at least they know how to react and unite the janta on such anti national issues. :(
All ready media houses are split it's a great start for nationalistic forces as all the media houses are not with the traitors! May I ask how old are you brother?
 

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Im sad the way Indian media always protects the traitors. Is there no way we can correct the media, i don't want media to become a modi bhakt but at least they know how to react and unite the janta on such anti national issues. :(

this time the general public has countered and showed them their aukaad. They have been marked..
 

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this time the general public has countered and showed them their aukaad. They have been marked..

Go and check some comments under Ravish's video. People actually fell for his propaganda piece. Ravish also has more outreach among Hindi speaking public as opposed to Barkha & likes. We now live in times where media is openly backing those who speak favorably about Afzal and deride army men who have sacrificed in the battle field. This is becoming mainstream thinking among a sizable section of Indian society which was unthinkable until 10 years ago. Marking them counts for nothing if you can't act decisively against them. Brainwashing of a large section of youth has been accomplished.
 

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this time the general public has countered and showed them their aukaad. They have been marked..
True. We are also forgetting DD. It has massive viewership across India but because this business of TRP calculation only takes inputs from urban areas, DD doesn't appear on the radar. Remember, it's difficult to count TRP of TVs who receive DD signal through direct antenna. But literally crores and crores of people in India watch this. At any time if you feel high blood pressure after watching prestitute media, just switch to DD, Loksabha TV or RSTV, and take solace in the fact that crores are watching the same thing as you are. Randi TV is just a bubble for urban ignoaramus, hooka smoking hipster crowd. Randi TV has a few thousand viewers watching it at any given time. Last time we checked, it peaked at just 45K people during prime time slot. What's 45K in today's age of digital content? even random cat videos have move views. DD, on the other hand has CRORES of people watching it. Even buying an advertisement slot on DD costs much much more than any private channel because of their wide reach, most people don't know that.
 
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Im sad the way Indian media always protects the traitors. Is there no way we can correct the media, i don't want media to become a modi bhakt but at least they know how to react and unite the janta on such anti national issues. :(
Stop watching those channels, minimise their TRP and fuck them economically.There are severals channels which are not ashamed of being Indians and they don't have to be pseudo secula, watch them instead.

NDTV glorifying urdu fest btw inviting several Pakis who said India is like a home in an interview with a musalman anchor.

A lot of Indians vow not watch the filth of 3 khan.
 
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Go and check some comments under Ravish's video. People actually fell for his propaganda piece. Ravish also has more outreach among Hindi speaking public as opposed to Barkha & likes. We now live in times where media is openly backing those who speak favorably about Afzal and deride army men who have sacrificed in the battle field. This is becoming mainstream thinking among a sizable section of Indian society which was unthinkable until 10 years ago. Marking them counts for nothing if you can't act decisively against them. Brainwashing of a large section of youth has been accomplished.
You are again incorrect! Ravish's NDTV has one of the lowest viewership even among all Hindi Channels. People who are fan of Ravish are AAPtards / leftist and minorities, hence they will make him a hero and propagate his spinning of facts, nothing more! He has been bashed up on twitter, FB and Open-Eds that too black and blue! ZEE, AAJtak and India TV etc have more viewership than Ravish or whole of NDTV any given day! People are making it a point to make him look like a fool! Stop watching these channels and don't allow their TRP to go up!
 
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