Was Lord Buddha a beef eater?

[Ancient Indian]

My question was about the person from CSSEIP, who said that Buddha himself was a beef eater....

Those people who are on TV don't know a thing about what they talk.

Meat is meant for Rakshasa. If you consume it, it is like feeding these ganas and making them stronger.

When you go for enlightenment, It will be difficult to control these ganaas in us. So our ancestors made a rule to over come this difficulty by following strict vegetarian diet.

Imagine chanting Veda hymn after consuming non-veg.

That is so wrong in many levels.

When it comes to people who got enlightened, these rules won't apply. As they already won over their negatives in their self, there is no need to observe it.

Even then It is not good for your soul.
If you consciously consume the meat from a butchered animal, it will be greatest sin.

The intentions matter in the end.

As for Bhudha, we are not at his level to comment on his actions. He is whole different level.

 

[brational]

Shut your idiotic brainless mind. You have no right to condemn others belief. If you don't like keep it to yourself. "I AM PROUD TO BE A BRAHMIN". You have no right to criticize what others believe in.

You don't have proper knowledge of BRAHMINS. Just because some idiotic brahmins did something wrong, you cannot label the whole of BRAHMINS as bad. So please restrain from doing so.....

If you think that you can eat anything in this world then why not eat humans also.... Why restrict yourself to other living beings.......

@genius must try pork he will forget eating beef. It is worthless to expect a Pakistani to know about Brahmins. Genius is a produce of Barbaric Arabian Invaders.

 

[sgarg]

Buddha was an enlightened man, and enlightened people are usually beyond man-made social and religious norms, rights and wrongs. They are beyond duality. All these stupid rules - what you eat etc. - were invented by fanatical brahmins, and the buddha was against it. Cow protection was a moronic concept invented by brahmins a long time ago, but funnily enough even 21st century hindus are still following it all the while mocking muslims for following 7th century rules. Amazing.

Why?

Cow is accorded the same status as human in the Veda. The punishment for killing a cow is same as killing a man. So it is clear that Vedic society DID NOT EAT cow's meat.
The discussion even of eating meat is a recent phenomenon in our society, lest aside cow's meat. For example in my family, only current generation has started eating meat. My grand-father generation was purely vegetarian.

How do you know if Buddha ate meat? The Buddhist literature suffered the same fate as Vedic literature in the hands of Muslims - that is the books were burnt wholesale. There is no way of knowing without reliable and provable written proof.

Buddhism is heavy on "daya" (kindness). How can a Buddhist justify killing an animal.

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

Those people who are on TV don't know a thing about what they talk.

Meat is meant for Rakshasa. If you consume it, it is like feeding these ganas and making them stronger.

When you go for enlightenment, It will be difficult to control these ganaas in us. So our ancestors made a rule to over come this difficulty by following strict vegetarian diet.

Imagine chanting Veda hymn after consuming non-veg.

That is so wrong in many levels.

When it comes to people who got enlightened, these rules won't apply. As they already won over their negatives in their self, there is no need to observe it.

Even then It is not good for your soul.
If you consciously consume the meat from a butchered animal, it will be greatest sin.

The intentions matter in the end.

As for Bhudha, we are not at his level to comment on his actions. He is whole different level.

Eating meat makes the tongue numb, in the sense you cannot pronounce words and even letters. It also makes the brain to get used of lust and desire. So, with lust and desire in the mind one cannot meditate or chant Vedas. Chanting Vedas needs very high level of concentration and "SHUDDHA AND SPASHTA" pronunciation is very important. If wrongly uttered, it will change the meaning and that will result in the wrong kind of vibration which may lead to the increase of negative thoughts in the mind of the person who is chanting.

 

[sgarg]

Buddha was born a Kshatriya and for them pork was especially relished. But no question of eating beef. All our traditional meat recipes involve mutton, chicken, fish, and pork.

ALL classes were vegetarian in Vedic society including the Kshatriya. Why would Kshatriya be any different.

Animal protein always meant cow milk in India which was consumed in plenty. Old fashioned Indians still drink two glasses per day (with morning breakfast and at bedtime). It is well known that 2 glasses of milk per day is very good for general health.

Even Shudra were vegetarian. Shudra served in the homes and businesses of the higher classes, and ate similar food.

The meat eating came to India with foreigners.

 

[Sylex21]

He was a vegetarian, he wouldn't believe in harming any living being. The accusation is absolutely absurd. Nor would he ever eat pork.

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

But there are many religious Buddhists and monks who would eat meat. They cite the reason that they cannot eat meat but if someone else kills the animal then they can.

 

[HeinzGud]

Buddha was an enlightened man, and enlightened people are usually beyond man-made social and religious norms, rights and wrongs. They are beyond duality. All these stupid rules - what you eat etc. - were invented by fanatical brahmins, and the buddha was against it. Cow protection was a moronic concept invented by brahmins a long time ago, but funnily enough even 21st century hindus are still following it all the while mocking muslims for following 7th century rules. Amazing.

As a Indian I think cow protection is a great concept when Cow helps you Indians more the we Sri Lankans. We also respect cows.

 

[HeinzGud]

Why?
Buddhism is heavy on "daya" (kindness). How can a Buddhist justify killing an animal.

Their is no justification. Killing any being is as bad as killing a human.

In Buddhist philosophy the most suitable meat is of a animal that have died of natural causes (Not purposefully killed by human).

 

[HeinzGud]

The meat eating came to India with foreigners.

This is absurd. Meat eating is a natural phenomenon conman to humans and other carnivorous.

This whole Non-Veg movement is a pretty modern concept in terms of human evolution.

 

[sgarg]

This is absurd. Meat eating is a natural phenomenon conman to humans and other carnivorous.

This whole Non-Veg movement is a pretty modern concept in terms of human evolution.

Who told you human is a carnivore?? Human digestion system is built for vegetarian food. Try eating raw meat for a few days and then report back.

You can eat raw fruits, vegetables and milk and survive well.

 

[rock127]

This is absurd. Meat eating is a natural phenomenon conman to humans and other carnivorous.

This whole Non-Veg movement is a pretty modern concept in terms of human evolution.

This is partially right.

It was natural only till we were uncivilized Neanderthals type brutes and "eating" like animals.

Later on when humans discovered growing crops they realized they don't really have to depend on eating meat. So now options are open based on personal choice.Humans can survive easily on veg or non-veg depending on the situation.India was a veggie land since ages and even today#1 heaven for veggies on planet.While western countries are very slowly moving towards veggi and vegans we are eating more meat than ever due to sheer ignorance and not choice.

Buddha was an enlightened man, and enlightened people are usually beyond man-made social and religious norms, rights and wrongs. They are beyond duality. All these stupid rules - what you eat etc. - were invented by fanatical brahmins, and the buddha was against it. Cow protection was a moronic concept invented by brahmins a long time ago, but funnily enough even 21st century hindus are still following it all the while mocking muslims for following 7th century rules. Amazing.

So you mean Mohamad was not a enlightened man? Why did he ban Pork to his people? Why Doggies considered haram even as a pet?

Your idiotic comment just backfired really badly. Now enjoy Tihar Jail.

 

[HeinzGud]

Who told you human is a carnivore?? Human digestion system is built for vegetarian food. Try eating raw meat for a few days and then report back.

You can eat raw fruits, vegetables and milk and survive well.

Actually human is a omnivores animal.

Even though we have a herbivorous type digestive system, humans have used to eating meat before they have learnt the art of farming. I think the habit loop is harder to beat.

 

[pmaitra]

I second @HeinzGud. Humans were originally hunters and gatherers, so they began with hunting and gathering, which means, they began with eating meat and berries, and learnt farming only at a later stage as these hunter-gatherer groups became more sedentary.

 

[mayfair]

This is absurd. Meat eating is a natural phenomenon conman to humans and other carnivorous.

This whole Non-Veg movement is a pretty modern concept in terms of human evolution.

Early humans also ran around naked as they were born...a perfectly natural phenomenon common to all humans and animals.

Wearing clothes is a pretty modern concept in human society.

Just sayin'.....

 

[rock127]

I second @HeinzGud. Humans were originally hunters and gatherers, so they began with hunting and gathering, which means, they began with eating meat and berries, and learnt farming only at a later stage as these hunter-gatherer groups became more sedentary.

And now those "Hunters" are going towards veggi while we the so called "ancient civilization" going towards more and more meat ie. back to past like our brute uncivilized ancestors cutting and tearing up animals and eating it.

We are such picchlaggo of others (read Whites) and follow anything which they do thinking they are better in everything.

Even having such large % of arable land(60% I guess) we are still running after meat stuff for all the wrong reasons.

 

[rock127]

Actually human is a omnivores animal.

Even though we have a herbivorous type digestive system, humans have used to eating meat before they have learnt the art of farming. I think the habit loop is harder to beat.

Habits die hard specially food.

A hardcore meat eater would take years and even decade to develop taste of veg food and a veggi would feel hard to eat flesh and drink blood of animals.

 

[HeinzGud]

And now those "Hunters" are going towards veggi while we the so called "ancient civilization" going towards more and more meat ie. back to past like our brute uncivilized ancestors cutting and tearing up animals and eating it.

We are such picchlaggo of others (read Whites) and follow anything which they do thinking they are better in everything.

Even having such large % of arable land(60% I guess) we are still running after meat stuff for all the wrong reasons.

Western people who lives in colder climates need meat to retain their energy levels up. Veggis alone will not provide the required energies for them. However for us, meat is not such a required commodity.

 

[sgarg]

Western people who lives in colder climates need meat to retain their energy levels up. Veggis alone will not provide the required energies for them. However for us, meat is not such a required commodity.

I lived in both USA and Canada in fairly cold areas and stayed a vegetarian all along. I never needed meat to "retain my energy level".

Luckily I was not alone. More and more people in USA are converting to vegetarianism and doing absolutely fine regarding their energy level.

There is absolutely no need of meat for colder climate. The energy content of seeds (grains, legumes) is very high and meat does not contain higher levels of energy.

 

[rock127]

Western people who lives in colder climates need meat to retain their energy levels up. Veggis alone will not provide the required energies for them. However for us, meat is not such a required commodity.

I would say there are very few places where diet would depend primarily on meat.

For example Antartica or very cold places where veggies are not grown easily or too costly to be imported.Even herbivore animals can live on vegetation so energy level is not the main constraint.If you notice then the biggest and most strongest animals on planet(Elephant/Rhino/Hippo/Giraffe/Buffalo/Gorilla etc and even biggest animals on earth ie. the Sauropods of Jurassic era) live on veg stuff.

Except that I guess it's not difficult to live on veg stuff. Western countries are way ahead in farming and plantation and can easily beat us in producing surplus.