Should India have a Air Cavalry?

[Bahamut]

Tejas's air-frame can't support AL-31 class engine.

When we were designing Tejas ,it was clear we were going to but Su 30 with AL 31 and also with some ToT that how Kaveri started but when Kaveri failed ,we should by default done for AL 31 with some improvement to maximize commonality.

 

[busesaway]

No. I'm personally supportive of merging everything into the navy. Therefore, I disagree with making the military more complicated.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Its more logical to go for RD-33-3 rather than AL-31 for Tejas Airframe ..

When we were designing Tejas ,it was clear we were going to but Su 30 with AL 31 and also with some ToT that how Kaveri started but when Kaveri failed ,we should by default done for AL 31 with some improvement to maximize commonality.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

PARA SF use similar concept using Dhruvs at lower scale ..

 

[Bahamut]

Its more logical to go for RD-33-3 rather than AL-31 for Tejas Airframe ..

That was also an option but since we have more AL 31 in service then RD 33-3 , so we have more commonality .Take a look at US air force , a common engine or even engine with more the 50% components reduce maintenance cost dramatically. Also we could power more power electronics and carry more weapons.

 

[Bahamut]

PARA SF use similar concept using Dhruvs at lower scale ..

Yes but unlike Air cavalry the helicopter are not attached .In air Cavalry helicopter are permanently attached to unit ,its deployment control by CO of unit .The infantry is trained in only heliborn operation .

 

[Kunal Biswas]

These Helicopter are under Army itself not Airforce, The field commander has the power of wielding them, In operation is under CO of the assaulting unit, PARA SF main source of mobility via air is Dhruvs under Army command.

Its not like dedicated Air cavalry formation, But rather flexible and does use similar concept in various occasions.

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That is a gud point, But if one has to mount an AL-31 than he has to redesign the entire fusalage by a great extend as the dimensions differs to an great extend when compare AL-31 to Kaveri.

Yes but unlike Air cavalry the helicopter are not attached .In air Cavalry helicopter are permanently attached to unit ,its deployment control by CO of unit .The infantry is trained in only heliborn operation .

That was also an option but since we have more AL 31 in service then RD 33-3 , so we have more commonality .Take a look at US air force , a common engine or even engine with more the 50% components reduce maintenance cost dramatically. Also we could power more power electronics and carry more weapons.

 

[aditya10r]

These Helicopter are under Army itself not Airforce, The field commander has the power of wielding them, In operation is under CO of the assaulting unit, PARA SF main source of mobility via air is Dhruvs under Army command.

Its not like dedicated Air cavalry formation, But rather flexible and does use similar concept in various occasions.

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That is a gud point, But if one has to mount an AL-31 than he has to redesign the entire fusalage by a great extend as the dimensions differs to an great extend when compare AL-31 to Kaveri.

Should India develop something like a-10 or su-25 for cas roles????????

 

[Bahamut]

These Helicopter are under Army itself not Airforce, The field commander has the power of wielding them, In operation is under CO of the assaulting unit, PARA SF main source of mobility via air is Dhruvs under Army command.

Its not like dedicated Air cavalry formation, But rather flexible and does use similar concept in various occasions.

Sir unlike PARA SF ,air cavalry are used to provide closer to the battle field ,It means that they land literal on enemy door steps for raid and open an alternative front at the max 10 km inside enemy area and hold the ground .
In counter terrorism they are used to provide as QRF for ambus and for Search and Destroy operation in area with no close army base in short time.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Much lighter like Tucano in hands of Army aviation, Presently it has Rudras ..

Army practice such an senerio in exercises where it does mass troop movement ( PARA ) as well as regular infantry units in tactical scale involving Army aviation only ..

Should India develop something like a-10 or su-25 for cas roles????????

Sir unlike PARA SF ,air cavalry are used to provide closer to the battle field ,It means that they land literal on enemy door steps for raid and open an alternative front at the max 10 km inside enemy area and hold the ground .In counter terrorism they are used to provide as QRF for ambus and for Search and Destroy operation in area with no close army base in short time.

 

[Bahamut]

WHICH HELICOPTER CAN BE USED BY FUTURE INDIAN AIR CAVALRY?
Rudra/Dhruv

1.Carry 12 operative
2.Max speed of 290 kmph
2.Small and agile, can be equipped with ECM for operation near battle front.
4.Combat Range of 390 km ferry range of 827 km
5.Good fire power
6.Lack hard Armour
7.Have FLIR, support night operation
Mi 17 V5

1.Carry 36 people/4.5 tons
2.Max speed of 280 km/ avg speed of 250 km
3.Massive fire power
3.Less agile, range 580 km extend to 1080 km
4.Have armour, ECM
5.Have FLIR, night operation are capable
Mi 38

1.Speed>300 km
2.Range 660 km with 4ton of load extend to 1200km
3.Agile , have ECM
4.FLIR ,night operation capable
5.Armour
Personal select :Rudra give best combo of mobility and fire power but hard Armour needs to added if is to operate in battlefield to protect crew and passenger from ground fire and make it more crash worthy.

 

[Bahamut]

HOW WILL BE SQUAD ORGANISED AND THEIR WEAPONS

• Each squad will be 12 men strong and will be transported in a single copper
• Since the squad will response to ambush they will have 2 medic
• Since the squad may be force to find the enemy after he has is one the run , they will require 2 tracker.
• One person with machine gun and one with grenade launcher to used for heavy fire power
• One sharp shooter and one person to defuse explosive that are left after the ambush
• Member will be equipped with avg of 700 bullet, no ration and basic first aid kit
• Each person to have a personal radio
• Chopper will be there with squad all the time and provide heavy fire power and surveillance
• Member and pilot to expert in heliborn operation and will train together