Russia prepares 5th-generation fighter for India

[Srinivas_K]

Russia prepares 5th-generation fighter for India

Moscow, Aug 15 (IANS/ITAR -TASS) Russia's United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) has completed the front-end engineering design of the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) for India's Air Force, UAC president Mikhail Pogosyan said Friday.

The UAC is preparing the contract on the aircraft's full-scale development for signing, he told Arms-Tass.

"We have completed the front end engineering design stage," he said. "The work on the preparation of the contract on the FGFA full-scale development is now in progress," he added.

The FGFA development and production is a major project of Russian-Indian military-technical cooperation.

The two sides signed the corresponding agreement in Moscow in October 2007. In December 2010, Russia's Rosoboronexport arms exporter, Sukhoi company and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited signed a contract on the aircraft's front end engineering design development.

Since January 2012, a group of India's specialists has been working in Russia, and Russia's specialists in India. The two sides have established the required information exchange.

FGFA is developed on the basis of the Russian PAK FA fifth-generation fighter project. However, it will differ from the prototype to meet Indian Air Force's specific requirements.

--IANS/ITAR-TASS

Russia prepares 5th-generation fighter for India | Business Standard News

 

[Pulkit]

Great news .... when will we be able to see the prototype of the same?How long will it take to sign the contract it was expected to signed this year only rite ?
any updates on that.....

Russia prepares 5th-generation fighter for India

Moscow, Aug 15 (IANS/ITAR -TASS) Russia's United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) has completed the front-end engineering design of the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) for India's Air Force, UAC president Mikhail Pogosyan said Friday.

The UAC is preparing the contract on the aircraft's full-scale development for signing, he told Arms-Tass.

"We have completed the front end engineering design stage," he said. "The work on the preparation of the contract on the FGFA full-scale development is now in progress," he added.

The FGFA development and production is a major project of Russian-Indian military-technical cooperation.

The two sides signed the corresponding agreement in Moscow in October 2007. In December 2010, Russia's Rosoboronexport arms exporter, Sukhoi company and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited signed a contract on the aircraft's front end engineering design development.

Since January 2012, a group of India's specialists has been working in Russia, and Russia's specialists in India. The two sides have established the required information exchange.

FGFA is developed on the basis of the Russian PAK FA fifth-generation fighter project. However, it will differ from the prototype to meet Indian Air Force's specific requirements.

--IANS/ITAR-TASS

Russia prepares 5th-generation fighter for India | Business Standard News

 

[p2prada]

New dates need to be announced. They will do that after the contract is ready for signature.

 

[rohit b3]

Isnt HAL working on the project too?
Headlines seem to suggest its like 99% Russian workshare.

 

[p2prada]

Isnt HAL working on the project too?
Headlines seem to suggest its like 99% Russian workshare.

The aircraft is being designed in both countries. UAC is the primary design house. Naturally, this news will come from the Russians.

 

[Neeraj Mathur]

i think this is a prototype and Hal is not involved in prototype.

 

[Pulkit]

Development of Sukhoi FGFA on course, full-scale development contract being drafted - daily.bhaskar.com

A lot of question answered in it.... India will be creating one of the two prototypes.. @Neeraj Mathur @p2prada @rohit b3 @Srinivas_K

Development of Sukhoi FGFA on course, full-scale development contract being drafted

Moscow/ New Delhi: The front-end engineering design of Sukhoi FGFA, the fifth generation fighter plane being jointly developed by Russia and India for Indian Air Force has been completed.

The United Aircraf Corporation (UAC), the company behind the designing of the state-of-the-art fighter jet, is under the process of preparing the contract for full-scale development of the jet.

The Sukhoi/HAL Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) or Perspective Multi-role Fighter (PMF) is a fifth-generation fighter being developed by India and Russia.

The Indian model will bear slight difference from its Russian counterpart based upon the needs of Indian Air Force.

FGFA was the earlier designation for the Indian version, while the combined project is now called the Perspective Multi-Role Fighter (PMF).


Two separate prototypes will be developed, one by Russia and a separate one by India.

According to erstwhile HAL chairman A.K. Baweja (speaking shortly after the India-Russia Inter-Governmental Committee meeting on 18 September 2008), both the Russian and Indian versions of the aircraft will be single-seater. The first aircraft is to begin testing in India in 2014, with introduction into service expected by 2022.
Last year, India and Russia signed a contract to arm the jet with never-seen-before advanced air engagement system.

The K-77M air-to-air missile will combine fire-and-forget guidance and single-shot-kill that will triumph over any evasive manoeuvres by the target.

"The major innovation of the K-77M air-to-air missile is its guidance system, based on an active phased array antenna (APAA) of its own, Izvestia daily reports. With APAA onboard, the missile has zero reaction time to unexpected evolutions of the target, which means that once it locks on an aircraft, it would hit it no matter what aerial acrobatics the target would perform to shake off the inbound killer missile," quoted Russia Today

 

[p2prada]

Development of Sukhoi FGFA on course, full-scale development contract being drafted - daily.bhaskar.com

A lot of question answered in it.... India will be creating one of the two prototypes.. @Neeraj Mathur @p2prada @rohit b3 @Srinivas_K

There is another prototype somewhere. There are supposed to be three.

 

[Pulkit]

Might be a joint one....
actually all are joint.....

Couldn't find any source of info for that third one.... as of now two is what its saying .... will wait for official declaration

There is another prototype somewhere. There are supposed to be three.

 

[rohit b3]

HAL is definately involved in the prototype. Or India would have started its production directly based off the Russian T-50. India wants something different from the Russian model.

 

[rohit b3]

@p2prada @Pulkit

By "one of the two prototypes", they mean the Prototype T-50 and FGFA/PMF.

 

[Neeraj Mathur]

is it CGI or real @Pulkit @p2prada

 

[pmaitra]

@Sergeyl, could you please confirm the picture above?

 

[Pulkit]

the statement in the article didn't say one by Russia and other for India....
"Two separate prototypes will be developed, one by Russia and a separate one by India."
I believe thats gonna be individual prototypes ....
As the work has been shared already it will only reflect that the capability of one to develop it ... and how much dependence we do have over other....

@p2prada @Pulkit

By "one of the two prototypes", they mean the Prototype T-50 and FGFA/PMF.

 

[Pulkit]

is it CGI or real @Pulkit @p2prada

@pmaitra and @Sergeyl can confirm on whether this is authentic or not with the proper reasoning but as per me the display of the weapon bay is not a questionable thing here(trying to appear expert which i am not)...
this image is taken from
T-50 PAK-FA Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft [FGFA] carrying missiles in its internal weapon bay - AA Me, IN
which clearly says its a CGI.....
You also read that then why asking this question?

 

[p2prada]

@p2prada @Pulkit

By "one of the two prototypes", they mean the Prototype T-50 and FGFA/PMF.

They mean two prototypes of the FGFA, not T-50.

is it CGI or real @Pulkit @p2prada

CGI.

 

[Neeraj Mathur]

They mean two prototypes of the FGFA, not T-50.



CGI.

so no internal weapon bay for t50

 

[p2prada]

so no internal weapon bay for t50

There is. We merely haven't seen it.

This is on the Berkut.

 

[ersakthivel]

The IDRW report mentions in a matter of fact way that "MOD has asked to revise the ralfale cost as costs have ballooned"!!!

And then goes on to say the contract is ready to be signed. Can you think contract be signed without finalizing cost.

This cost is the reason why rafale lost out all its previous contracts. Lets see what happens in india,

Also why this cost is such an important issue is, by noting what Air Marshal matheswaran stated in stratpost conference

"Availability, serviceability and reliability will be huge issues. And these are issues which need to be considered. With respect to MMRCA, it should have come, it should have been operational by 2008. Now that we've delayed it so long and we're boxing ourselves into a situation where again cost-factor will come into the picture, you've got to decide between FGFA and MMRCA if you're going to spend 30 billion dollars each on each of the programs – and the country has to take a call. And the reason – the responsibility for this 'boxing' is not with the air force. Its with the country as a whole – its with the entire system as a whole. And that's what you need to look at. Why have you allowed yourself to get boxed in like this?"

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This what I have been saying by letting the financial bids lapse in its long drawn dubious evaluation process, IAF has really put the civilian govt in a fix.


SO this 20 billion on Rafale and 20 billion on FGFA to be funded at such close interval is almost impossble is what an IAF guy's view.

Lets see what IAF fanboys here tell about this!!!