Pakistan's Descent into Chaos: Terrorist & Drone Attacks

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Drone strikes on both sides of Pak-Afghan border kill 2, injure 1 suspected militant

At least one man was severely injured in a drone strike allegedly carried out by a US spy plane in Kurram Agency's Badshah Kot area near the Pak-Afghan border.

According to officials, the man severely injured in the strike was identified as Khalid, said to be an "Afghan extremist".

The missile fell close to a house in the area, eyewitnesses said.

In a similar strike carried out on the Afghan side, two "Afghan extremists" were killed in the Khost province of Afghanistan.

The two men were killed in the the strike carried out close to an extremist den in the Khani Kila area, said officials.

According to eyewitnesses, US spy drones have been circling the Pak-Afghan border since Wednesday morning.

On December 26, 2017 two people were killed in a drone strike which targeted a vehicle. The strike occurred in the Mata Sangar area of Kurram.

In the same month, last year, a US drone had fired a missile at a compound in the same area. The missile had been fired at the compound at around 9pm, but no casualty was reported.

In Novermber 2017, three suspected militants were killed in another drone strike targeting a militant compound in Afghanistan's Paktia province near the Pak-Afghan border.

Drone strikes have surged in Kurram in the wake of US President Donald Trump’s announcement of a new Afghan policy in August, in which Pakistan was also accused of offering “safe havens to agents of chaos”.
 

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Militants kill mother-daughter polio workers in Pakistan

Unidentified gunmen on Thursday shot dead a mother and her daughter who were part of a polio vaccination team in Quetta, the capital of Pakistan’s troubled Balochistan province.

The gunmen opened fire on the polio team in the Shalkot area, killing the two women in what law enforcers believe is a targeted attack, Dawn reported, quoting police sources.

The attackers escaped unhurt from the site of the attack, police said.

Earlier on Thursday, two policemen were shot dead in a targeted attack in the Zarghoon Road area in Quetta.

Polio teams have been the target of militants after the Taliban spread rumours that the vaccination drives were a front for espionage or a conspiracy to sterilise Muslims.
 

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Militants kill mother-daughter polio workers in Pakistan

Unidentified gunmen on Thursday shot dead a mother and her daughter who were part of a polio vaccination team in Quetta, the capital of Pakistan’s troubled Balochistan province.

The gunmen opened fire on the polio team in the Shalkot area, killing the two women in what law enforcers believe is a targeted attack, Dawn reported, quoting police sources.

The attackers escaped unhurt from the site of the attack, police said.

Earlier on Thursday, two policemen were shot dead in a targeted attack in the Zarghoon Road area in Quetta.

Polio teams have been the target of militants after the Taliban spread rumours that the vaccination drives were a front for espionage or a conspiracy to sterilise Muslims.
I've never understood. Why exactly are the militants in Pakistan pro polio? What is their problem with polio workers in particular?
 

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I've never understood. Why exactly are the militants in Pakistan pro polio? What is their problem with polio workers in particular?
Survey on Osama's hide out was done using a doctor distributing polio pamphlets and then doctor visited that compounded house to give polio doses as well.

All this time doctor was working for USA and giving inside info to them.

This is why Pakis, ISI, al Qaeda hate polio workers .

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PAKISTAN’S STANCE ON MILITANTS ALIENATED THE US. IS CHINA NEXT?

Self-serving politics threaten not only to strain Pakistan’s relations with the United States, but heighten tensions in the geostrategic region of Balochistan, a vital node in Beijing’s Belt and Road Initiative that has been earmarked as home for China’s second foreign military base.

Pakistan’s short-sighted political battles are being fought at a time of worsening relations with the US over alleged Pakistani support of militants and concern that the US may withdraw from the 2015 international nuclear agreement with Iran. This potentially creates a dilemma for China, which is heavily invested in Pakistan with more than US$50 billion committed to the China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), a collection of infrastructure projects.

Beijing may freeze further CPEC-related investment until the country’s domestic politics stabilise. So far, China is believed to have invested US$29 billion of its committed US$56 billion.

“Political events in Pakistan have sent China in a watchful mood … I am concerned if we continue to throw surprises to the outside world, then anyone can be forced to rethink their economic investments,” Pakistan’s chief CPEC negotiator, Ahsan Iqbal, told Pakistani daily The News.


The crackdown constitutes a double-edged sword. Pakistan and its military needs to be seen to be acting against internationally designated terrorist groups, yet Saeed has been treated over the years with kid gloves. His organisation was allowed to continue operations under multiple guises, and although he was put under house arrest several times, he was never put behind bars. It isn’t clear whether the crackdown by the PMN-L-led federal government of Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi has the backing of the military.


Saeed has recently attempted to move into mainstream politics with the support of the military. The military is motivated not only to keep control over defence, security and foreign policy, “but also give these former militant groups that have served the state a route into the mainstream where their energies can be utilised”, a senior military official said. Saeed headed the militant terrorist organisation Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), one of South Asia’s most violent groups.

China, despite its concern about Pakistan’s political stability, sees the military’s use of proxies against India as beneficial, yet it also needs stability in Balochistan to secure its massive investment.

Pakistan could well be the ultimate loser in institutional battles that appear focused more on vested interests than on resolving issues that have long held the country back, such as extremism, intolerance and a lack of fundamental human rights.

In pursuit of their own interests, neither the US nor China appear willing to help their Pakistani allies look beyond their narrow and most immediate concerns towards the development of policies that would launch the country on a path of security, stability and economic prosperity.
 

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PAKISTAN’S STANCE ON MILITANTS ALIENATED THE US. IS CHINA NEXT?

Self-serving politics threaten not only to strain Pakistan’s relations with the United States, but heighten tensions in the geostrategic region of Balochistan, a vital node in Beijing’s Belt and Road Initiative that has been earmarked as home for China’s second foreign military base.

Pakistan’s short-sighted political battles are being fought at a time of worsening relations with the US over alleged Pakistani support of militants and concern that the US may withdraw from the 2015 international nuclear agreement with Iran. This potentially creates a dilemma for China, which is heavily invested in Pakistan with more than US$50 billion committed to the China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), a collection of infrastructure projects.

Beijing may freeze further CPEC-related investment until the country’s domestic politics stabilise. So far, China is believed to have invested US$29 billion of its committed US$56 billion.

“Political events in Pakistan have sent China in a watchful mood … I am concerned if we continue to throw surprises to the outside world, then anyone can be forced to rethink their economic investments,” Pakistan’s chief CPEC negotiator, Ahsan Iqbal, told Pakistani daily The News.


The crackdown constitutes a double-edged sword. Pakistan and its military needs to be seen to be acting against internationally designated terrorist groups, yet Saeed has been treated over the years with kid gloves. His organisation was allowed to continue operations under multiple guises, and although he was put under house arrest several times, he was never put behind bars. It isn’t clear whether the crackdown by the PMN-L-led federal government of Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi has the backing of the military.


Saeed has recently attempted to move into mainstream politics with the support of the military. The military is motivated not only to keep control over defence, security and foreign policy, “but also give these former militant groups that have served the state a route into the mainstream where their energies can be utilised”, a senior military official said. Saeed headed the militant terrorist organisation Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), one of South Asia’s most violent groups.

China, despite its concern about Pakistan’s political stability, sees the military’s use of proxies against India as beneficial, yet it also needs stability in Balochistan to secure its massive investment.

Pakistan could well be the ultimate loser in institutional battles that appear focused more on vested interests than on resolving issues that have long held the country back, such as extremism, intolerance and a lack of fundamental human rights.

In pursuit of their own interests, neither the US nor China appear willing to help their Pakistani allies look beyond their narrow and most immediate concerns towards the development of policies that would launch the country on a path of security, stability and economic prosperity.
Unless pakistan starts supporting separatists in Xinjiang, there will be no frustration about pakistan from China. And we know the pakis wont dare lift a finger against their master. China is not the US, and the pakis know it.
 

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I've never understood. Why exactly are the militants in Pakistan pro polio? What is their problem with polio workers in particular?
This isn't only a taliban thing either. Indian muslims also used to refuse to vaccinate their kids(saying that the vaccine sterilizes kids). In Nigeria Boko Haram also targets polio workers(citing the same theory). And you may have heard about MMR vaccination workers attacked in Kerala.
 

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Unless pakistan starts supporting separatists in Xinjiang, there will be no frustration about pakistan from China. And we know the pakis wont dare lift a finger against their master. China is not the US, and the pakis know it.
The ETIM separatists have been provided safe havens in North Waziristan and the AfPak border areas. China knows this but apart from a minor rap on the knuckles they have done nothing more against their slave Pak.
 

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PAKISTAN’S STANCE ON MILITANTS ALIENATED THE US. IS CHINA NEXT?

Self-serving politics threaten not only to strain Pakistan’s relations with the United States, but heighten tensions in the geostrategic region of Balochistan, a vital node in Beijing’s Belt and Road Initiative that has been earmarked as home for China’s second foreign military base.

Pakistan’s short-sighted political battles are being fought at a time of worsening relations with the US over alleged Pakistani support of militants and concern that the US may withdraw from the 2015 international nuclear agreement with Iran. This potentially creates a dilemma for China, which is heavily invested in Pakistan with more than US$50 billion committed to the China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), a collection of infrastructure projects.

Beijing may freeze further CPEC-related investment until the country’s domestic politics stabilise. So far, China is believed to have invested US$29 billion of its committed US$56 billion.

“Political events in Pakistan have sent China in a watchful mood … I am concerned if we continue to throw surprises to the outside world, then anyone can be forced to rethink their economic investments,” Pakistan’s chief CPEC negotiator, Ahsan Iqbal, told Pakistani daily The News.


The crackdown constitutes a double-edged sword. Pakistan and its military needs to be seen to be acting against internationally designated terrorist groups, yet Saeed has been treated over the years with kid gloves. His organisation was allowed to continue operations under multiple guises, and although he was put under house arrest several times, he was never put behind bars. It isn’t clear whether the crackdown by the PMN-L-led federal government of Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi has the backing of the military.


Saeed has recently attempted to move into mainstream politics with the support of the military. The military is motivated not only to keep control over defence, security and foreign policy, “but also give these former militant groups that have served the state a route into the mainstream where their energies can be utilised”, a senior military official said. Saeed headed the militant terrorist organisation Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), one of South Asia’s most violent groups.

China, despite its concern about Pakistan’s political stability, sees the military’s use of proxies against India as beneficial, yet it also needs stability in Balochistan to secure its massive investment.

Pakistan could well be the ultimate loser in institutional battles that appear focused more on vested interests than on resolving issues that have long held the country back, such as extremism, intolerance and a lack of fundamental human rights.

In pursuit of their own interests, neither the US nor China appear willing to help their Pakistani allies look beyond their narrow and most immediate concerns towards the development of policies that would launch the country on a path of security, stability and economic prosperity.
I am not getting this part where pakis keep saying that Chinese already invested 29 billion $. CPEC plan was 50 billion over a period of 20-30 years.

Firstly does Pakistan has capacity to absorb 29 billion investment in a span of 2-3 years?

Even if they did, it is not showing up in any of the macro indicators.

Or is it just that pakis do not know the difference between 29 billion commitment and investment on the ground.
 

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Unless pakistan starts supporting separatists in Xinjiang, there will be no frustration about pakistan from China. And we know the pakis wont dare lift a finger against their master. China is not the US, and the pakis know it.
What if we cultivate pro-balochisthan militans under disguise of anti-India militants. They will train and arm them. And they are the one going to eat that.
 

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What if we cultivate pro-balochisthan militans under disguise of anti-India militants. They will train and arm them. And they are the one going to eat that.
There can be no "disguise". Everybody knows what everybody is up to. There can only be plausible deniability so that your country isnt humiliated internationally. As long as the paki establishment doesnt mess with China, the chinese will not be bothered about their activities one bit. In fact, they whole heartedly support pakistans proxy war against India and double game in afghanistan.
 

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There can be no "disguise". Everybody knows what everybody is up to. There can only be plausible deniability so that your country isnt humiliated internationally. As long as the paki establishment doesnt mess with China, the chinese will not be bothered about their activities one bit. In fact, they whole heartedly support pakistans proxy war against India and double game in afghanistan.
I know that chinese are supporting this fiasco proxy war on us. Only way to make score equal is hitting our assets . I don't remember that idiot Prime Minister who gave all details about Indian Agents in Pak Land.
 

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Pakistan 'won't allow' UN sanctions monitoring team access to Hafiz Saeed

NEW DELHI: Pakistan won't allow a sanctions monitoring team+ of the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) any direct access to 26/11 Mumbai terror mastermind Hafiz Saeed or his entities when it visits the country later this week, diplomatic sources told The Nation.

The UN team's visit will take place - on January 25 and 26 - amid increasing pressure on Pakistan from the US and India on the inadequate implementation of the sanctions on Saeed and entities linked to him.

Saeed and his organisation the Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD) were put under sanctions by the UN in December 2008, a month after the Mumbai terror attack. The terrorist, who was released from house arrest late last November, in fact petitioned the UN after his release asking for his name be removed from their list of sanctioned terrorists. They didn't.

Pakistani officials insist the UNSC team's trip is a routine visit.

The UNSC team, one Pakistani diplomatic source said, will visit to discuss "official information" on issues relating to the banned outfits and implementation of UN sanctions.

"They will not seek access to the JuD or Hafiz Saeed and if they do that, we will not allow it.

We have been in talks and this visit was scheduled," said the diplomatic source.

The UNSC sanctions list includes the JuD, Al-Qaeda, Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, Falah-e-Insaniyat Foundation and Lashkar-e-Taiba (also banned by Pakistan, and of which the JuD is a front), among other organisations and individuals.

Last week, Pakistan's prime minister said there's no case against Saeed, which is why he can't be prosecuted. However, just days before that statement by the PM, Pakistan banned companies and individuals from making donations to the JuD, the related Falah-i-Insaniat Foundation and other organizations on the UNSC sanctions list.

This double-speak did not make the US happy. After the PM's statement, the US State Department sternly said Pakistan should prosecute Saeed "to the fullest extent of the law".

"He (Saeed) is listed by the UNSC 1267, the al-Qaida Sanctions Committee for targeted sanctions due to his affiliation with Lashkar-e- Taiba, which is a designated foreign terror organisation," said a US State Department spokesperson.

The US Department of the Treasury has also named Saeed a Specially Designated Global Terrorist, and the US, since 2012, has offered a $10 million reward for information that brings the terrorist to justice.
 

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It is election year in Pakistan. Possibly, many of the personnel of Pakistani intelligence agencies will be busy trying to manipulate election results.
 

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Student Kills Pakistan College Principal After Accusing Him of Blasphemy
January 23, 2018 1:00 AM
  • Ayaz Gul

FILE - Pakistani demonstrators take part in a protest over the killing of journalism student Mashal Khan in Karachi, April 22, 2017. Pakistan police arrested 22 people after the lynching of the student accused of blasphemy.

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Police in northwestern Pakistan say a student shot and killed his college principal on campus on Monday after accusing him of blasphemy.

The incident occurred at the private Islamia College in the northwestern town of Charsadda. The shooter was arrested, according to area police chief Zahoor Afridi.

Afridi explained that the slain principal, Sareer Ahmed, reprimanded one of his students for skipping classes to attend an Islamist rally supporting Pakistan's blasphemy laws. The argument angered the student, who fired six shots at Ahmed. Police arrived at the campus and took the shooter into custody along with his weapon. An investigation has been launched.

In a video recorded during the arrest, the unnamed student can be heard justifying his crime in the local Pashto language, saying he believed the college principal had committed blasphemy.

“I have been taught to kill the blasphemer and don’t be afraid of disrespecting those who insult God. I, myself, killed him, and I confess it,” proclaimed the 12th grade student.

The young man had traveled to Islamabad in November to participate in a sit-in protest organized by a radical Islamic group, Tehreek-e-Labaik, to denounce attempted changes in an electoral law for allegedly being blasphemous.

The protest paralyzed the national capital for three weeks and ended only after the government accepted all the group's demands, including removal of the federal law minister.

Under Pakistani blasphemy laws, insulting Islam’s prophet is punishable by death. Mere accusations can stir mob violence and lynchings of alleged blasphemers in the predominantly Sunni Muslim nation.

Last April, student Mashal Khan was beaten to death at his university campus in the nearby city of Mardan after fellow students accused him of posting blasphemous material on social media. The incident provoked widespread outrage and condemnation across Pakistan.

Police have since arrested nearly 60 people, including students and some faculty members, for playing a role in Khan's lynching.

Rights activists have long complained about misuse of blasphemy laws in Pakistan, where dozens of people have been murdered over unproven allegations.
 

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