Pakistan has lost Kashmir plank: Pak media

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ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has lost its Kashmir plank with India bringing on centrestage the need to counter terrorism, an editorial in a leading English daily said on Thursday while welcoming the apparent sub-continental thaw after the meeting in Russia between President Asif Ali Zardari and Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

"There was a time when Pakistan wanted 'movement' on Kashmir from India. Now India wants 'movement' first, on terrorism," Daily Times said in an editorial headlined 'The message from Yekaterinburg'.

"One phase is over whether Pakistan likes it or not. The next phase is upon us and that is Pakistan's war against Baitullah Mehsud's Tehreek-e Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and al-Qaida.

"One reason phase one is over is that even for Pakistan, the priority now is getting rid of the terrorists. Beyond that is a new model of relationship in South Asia between its two big nuclear-armed states and with the threatened countries that lie on the edge of the region," the editorial contended.

Manmohan Singh had delivered a blunt message to Zardari at their meeting in Yekaterinburg Tuesday, their first after the Mumbai terror attacks that India has blamed on elements operating from Pakistan.

"I must tell you quite frankly that I have come with the limited mandate of discussing how Pakistan can deliver on its assurances that its territory would not be used for terrorists attacks on India," Manmohan Singh had said.

Delhi Times also noted that New Delhi's official line on Pakistan before the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) summit at Yekaterinburg that India and Pakistan had attended as observers was - do something about terrorism first and then expect the resumption of dialogue with India.

"The message from Yekaterinburg was that the 'primary issue of terrorism will be discussed by the foreign secretaries of the two countries before the leaders of the two countries meet again in mid-July on the sidelines of an international conference in Sharm-el-Sheikh, Egypt'," the editorial said.

Holding that the war against terrorism "should not be an India-Pakistan war", the editorial said: "A new kind of dialogue between the two countries is essential. And it can't be a rehash of what happened in the past, in which some optimists saw 'great progress' but which yielded no results."

According to The News: "The resumption of greater normalcy between Islamabad and New Delhi is welcome."

"But while dialogue and negotiations between the two nations are to be encouraged, and have in the past led to steps - such as the cross-border bus services - that help people meet and encourage contact between them, it is time now to fix a firmer goal," said the editorial, headlined "Time to talk".

Holding that both Pakistan and India "have suffered immense losses due to terrorism", the editorial said: "They then stand to gain from coming together."

"But if this is to happen, India must accept it too has made many errors and committed many wrongs that need to be righted. Simply making demands on others while failing to correct one's own mistakes serves very little useful purpose."

"India needs to demonstrate it deserves a status as 'big brother' in the region by setting the right example and, by doing so, winning the respect of its smaller neighbours," the editorial maintained.

Dawn, too, focused on the theme of terrorism, saying the two countries should focus on the scourge that "threatens the peace and stability of South Asia".

"It is important that neither government provide any kind of sanctuary to terrorists operating against the other in the misplaced belief that this strategy promotes its political interest."

"It is time both realised that terrorism is a double-edged sword that also destroys its protector and patron. Hence the SAARC mechanism that has already been set up to investigate and fight terrorism must be activated and used effectively to the advantage of both," said the editorial, headlined "Handshake in Russia".
Pakistan has lost Kashmir plank: Pak media - Pakistan - World - The Times of India
 

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I think the problem remains the same. First it was the Pakistani Army, now its terrorism.
Both having a common origin.

Pakistan usually manages to make enough noise on the international stage to bring their attention to Kashmir. While I don't see any country challenging India's current policies, I don't think this issue is going to drown anytime soon.
 

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"But if this is to happen, India must accept it too has made many errors and committed many wrongs that need to be righted. Simply making demands on others while failing to correct one's own mistakes serves very little useful purpose."

"India needs to demonstrate it deserves a status as 'big brother' in the region by setting the right example and, by doing so, winning the respect of its smaller neighbours," the editorial maintained.
I wonder what wrong has India done? India has lost territory to Pakistan which is illegally holding a lot of Indian Land. It then started directing terrorism against India to achieve its goals after being thrashed in all the wars IT started.

When the Pakistanis want India to act as a "deserving Big Brother", does it expect India to cut off its Hands and hand to over to them just to earn their respect?
 

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I think we should help the Baloch Rebels.... Give them aid and training.

If Pakistan wants to see bleeding India with 1000 cuts.... Let us cut Pakistan into Trillion Pieces.

We have seen enough articles like this.
 

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I wonder what wrong has India done?
India's wrong is that it has never done enough to instill fear among its opponents. It has not done anything for its enemies and rivals to fear it. And that is an important ingredient in politics(local or international). Therefore, India suffers the consequencies. The only time India acted with daring was when we liberated Bengali Muslims from the clutches of Pakjabis. And from then on the message was clear to Pakjabis that they could not win a coventional war with India(in other words, they feared a conventional war with India). So, they started developing nukes to defend themselves and started cultivating terrorism as offensive strategy. From then on, India has done nothing to show Pakjabis that India would punish such tactics. That means India has not instilled fear among them to dissuade them from such tactics. 26/11(and parliament attack) were the opportune time when we had the (show of)sympathy from the world(US), we could have used it to teach Pakjabis and their army(and its terrorists) a lesson. But we didnt. And we suffer.
 

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quite clearly pakistan has lost the initiative that they had on kashmir, still recall the days when the only real agenda between our two countries was kashmir and none other. these days kashmir has become a passing agenda of the meeting where as the focus is invariably on terrorism, indian diplomacy has completely bulldozed its way on getting the focus of these discussions changed. like it or not and no matter how crude and rude it might sound, 9/11 came as a blessing in disguise for india when the us woke up to what terrorism really was, something to which till then india was subjected to daily in kashmir and earlier on in punjab, all sponsored at the behest of pakistan.

the only two ways i believe kashmir can come to center stage is either the relationship between india and the us takes a u turn and heads towards down south or all of a sudden the us falls from its position of being the sole super power over night and their friend prc was to take center stage at once and fill up the space left vacant after the exit of the us and both of these occurrence look like a dream way too far fetched. other than these, if pakistan feels that they can revive terrorism and get back to what they were up to in the 90s and early part of this decade, then i doubt this world traumatised by terrorism has any appetite for any such acts.

on ground the strategy has also changed, though there is support for terrorism but things have turned low key and now the focus has turned to mass street protests, calling bandhs every now and then, which has effect in srinagar but the reach beyond has dramatically reduced where once the whole kashmir was up in flames but not any more.

the reason for the on ground change has been that people have been fed up with violence and now they want to get going with their lives rather than have another generation lost to senseless violence. people in the recently held state and central elections came out in huge numbers to cast their votes even after there were terror attack threats, poll boycott calls and the weather was sub zero with heavy snowfall and poll turn out was well over 60% which in it self speaks volumes to the extent that it forced one of the separatist to contest elections under the constitution of india, something they swore they would never do in the past and where he was badly drubbed and came a distant third in the constituency where he was fighting elections.

it is not as if it is only pakistan that has lost the initiative on kashmir but the popular support has also vanished which is now limited to certain pockets. it is time pakistan woke up to new on ground realities and stopped dreaming of being the sole guardian of kashmir, where as it is them who are occupying our territory in the form of pakistan occupied kashmir and it is high time that india along with terrorism started talking about this part of kashmir which is an integral part of the union of india.
 

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I think we should help the Baloch Rebels.... Give them aid and training.

If Pakistan wants to see bleeding India with 1000 cuts.... Let us cut Pakistan into Trillion Pieces.

We have seen enough articles like this.
Helping the Baloch Nationalists will antagonise Iran, who have their own problems in Sistan-Balochistan. However, it is always a good idea to help anything that weakens Pakistan.
 

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Na-pakistan also lost manhood. Na-pak is known for its Mujra girls or Taliban now..:pound::pound:
 

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Pakistan will also loose Karachi if they dont realize using Terror as state policy against INDIA or any other have failed them miserably and it's eating them from inside. It's really the high time they put the extremists behind $h!t. Else god save Pakistan.
 

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