Modernisation of Indian Army Infantry

[FalconSlayers]

Who knows we may see a wildcard entry by Sig SAUER or any other company, genuinely how many of us thought Sig 716 would be chosen? @Gessler any inputs on who could be chosen for the carbine deal?

SiG-516 was offered last time for carbine tender but the SiG-516 has been discontinued.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

SiG-516 was offered last time for carbine tender but the SiG-516 has been discontinued.

Think MCX,less traditional AR 15.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Think MCX,less traditional AR 15.

MCX would be the best offering but the fact that it’s expensive af, no one will consider buying it.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

MCX would be the best offering but the fact that it’s expensive af, no one will consider buying it.

Hopefully Sig still wants to undercut the competition this time too.
Edit:Is there a significant advancement to justify the high price?

 

[FalconSlayers]

Hopefully Sig still wants to undercut the competition this time too

SiG MCX 11.5” variant easily fits into Indian Army specs.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Can the Sig MCX be converted to DI like how they did for the SIG 716i to reduce cost?

 

[Aditya Ballal]

SiG MCX 11.5” variant easily fits into Indian Army specs.

It’s an almost perfect fit, within 800mm, folding stock, length adjustable stock, MLOK handguard, some degree of commonality with Sig 716, easy cross training etc

 

[FalconSlayers]

Can the Sig MCX be converted to DI like how they did for the SIG 716i to reduce cost?

SiG is a Gas Operated Rifle and SiG716 is different, it was an AR-10 Pattern rifle, hence easily for 716, not for MCX.

 

[FalconSlayers]

It’s an almost perfect fit, within 800mm, folding stock, length adjustable stock, MLOK handguard, some degree of commonality with Sig 716, easy cross training etc

But weight is 3.4kg, Army wants no more than 3.3 kg.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

But weight is 3.4kg, Army wants no more than 3.3 kg.

I believe some +/- percentage is given in the RFI for the specs

 

[FalconSlayers]

@Gessler what’s the difference between an SBR and a Pistol?

 

[Aditya Ballal]

@Gessler what’s the difference between an SBR and a Pistol?

I think the difference in the US is the stock, which theoretically the gun can be held only with one hand, if I’m not wrong.

 

[Gessler]

@Gessler what’s the difference between an SBR and a Pistol?

If the barrel length is shorter than 16" or if the overall length is shorter than 26", and the gun has a stock, then its an SBR. This requires registration with ATF and a $200 tax stamp.

If it has no stock, then regardless of barrel length or overall length its a pistol. Whether it has a 'pistol brace' or not does not matter.

In simplest terms:

The brace can be used as a stock, but because it's 'intended use' is to support single-handed shooting, it can circumvent this law.

Brace in its intended use-case:

Brace used as a stock:

 

[FalconSlayers]

If the barrel length is shorter than 16" or if the overall length is shorter than 26", and the gun has a stock, then its an SBR. This requires registration with ATF and a $200 tax stamp.

If it has no stock, then regardless of barrel length or overall length its a pistol. Whether it has a 'pistol brace' or not does not matter.

In simplest terms:

The brace can be used as a stock, but because it's 'intended use' is to support single-handed shooting, it can circumvent this law.

Brace in its intended use-case:

Brace used as a stock:

Thanks

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

surprising that some troops along LOC still use patkas

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Corps of military police with STAR-21

 

[gutenmorgen]

Corps of military police with STAR-21
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Where are the optics?

 

[Suryavanshi]

Y'all nibiairs do u think we need to selectively prioritise modernisation of some particular unit's of the army?

Gahtak Size is 7000 currently.
They were also involved in direct confrontation with the Chinese, needles to say they will be extensively used in future wars.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Y'all nibiairs do u think we need to selectively prioritise modernisation of some particular unit's of the army?

Gahtak Size is 7000 currently.
They were also involved in direct confrontation with the Chinese, needles to say they will be extensively used in future wars.

How did you get the number 7000? I have been trying to figure out the number of ghataks in IA but haven't been able to.