Lies of the Yugoslav Historiography

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When Pinnochio lies, his nose grows. When Yugoslav historians lie, numbers grow. During 45 years of the existence of Yugoslavia, Yugoslav historiography was one of symbols of the untouchable Party. Everything historians said was a holy cow, especially things that had to do with covering up Partisan crimes and balooning up crimes of their opponents.

Executions in Kragujevac 1941

In October 1941., specifically on 20th and 21st October 1941., Wehrmacht executed by shooting 7 000 people in Kragujevac and surroundings. Of those 7 000 dead, 3 000 were highschoolers of Kragujevac gymnasium.

The reason for this was attack by Partisans on German forces near Gornji Milanovci in late September. In the attack, 10 German soldiers were killed and further 26 wounded. Following the orders of the General-Field Marshall Wilhelm Keitel, that for every killed German soldier a hundred civilians were to be killed, and 50 civilians killed for ever wounded soldier, Germans did so.

German commander of Kragujevac, Captain Otto von Bischofhausen, informed his superior, Major Konig, and the action was immediately begun. In several days, the people were rounded up and then shot at several places near Kragujevac. Along with the hostages were also killed 300 students of one class of gymnasium. Also executed was German soldier Joseph Schultz because he refused to shoot the children.

A group of small Roma conducted themselves especially bravely. They, as shoe cleaners, refused to clean the shoes of the German soldiers, and were also shot. Their act was photographed and thus preserved for the posterior. In total, 7 000 people were murdered in two days.


Problem? All of this is a lie.

On 28th September 1941., Partisans and their then-allies the Chetniks attacked a German patrol. On 15th October Partisans and Chetniks mounted another attack, and Germans were forced to take action. German top commander was Paul Hoffman, but he allowed his subordinates to act according to their own assessments. They in turn asked for help from Ljotić’s and Nedić’s troops, who were technically in the Chetniks but were cooperating with the Germans.

These Chetnik groups arrested – not killed, arrested – 7 000 hostages. German captain Otto von Bischofhausen ordered 4 700 people to be released, because they were excess. This order was sent to local associates, who executed that order in a very organized manner. 300 students were kept – helpers had released their friends, and friends of friends, but not the children. Captain von Bischofhausen released 240 children. Thus around 2 100 people were left in the group for execution, when orders had been to execute 2 300. Major Konig hid this and reported that the number had been achieved. Over the next two days, 2 070 people were shot. While this is still a massive crime, Communists clearly overreported numbers (as usual).

As for Joseph Schultz, he was in Belgrade at the time. He was killed a month later, during offensive against the “Užice Republic”.

As for Roma, they could only have cleaned the shoes in Kragujevac before the war, but not after Yugoslavia fell. Especially not in October when they were being arrested, since racial laws had been just introduced in occupied Serbia – over a month before same laws were introduced in NDH. Photo which shows Roma children refusing to clean German shoes is a lie, being in fact taken from a (largely fictional) Yugoslav movie “Krvava bajka” (“Bloody Tale”), which dramatizes the crime in Kragujevac.

While crimes did happen, Yugoslav politics as usual led to massive overiflation of crimes. Money and political propaganda care not for truth and ethics – and there were significant reparations at stake there. These reparations are also the reason why the bogus number of 1 700 000 casualties of World War II in Yugoslavia is often found, despite the fact that actual number of casualties is around a million less (700 000 most likely, but could be anywhere between 500 000 and 1 000 000).
 

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There tend to be exaggerations on the side that feels more victimised. Whatever happened was pretty horrific, a huge number of people killed in the space of 4 years, over a relatively modest expanse of area. But inflating figures as a way of maintaining hostility, and demanding compensation, is detestable, and doesn't help matters.
 

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When Pinnochio lies, his nose grows. When Yugoslav historians lie, numbers grow. During 45 years of the existence of Yugoslavia, Yugoslav historiography was one of symbols of the untouchable Party. Everything historians said was a holy cow, especially things that had to do with covering up Partisan crimes and balooning up crimes of their opponents.

Executions in Kragujevac 1941

In October 1941., specifically on 20th and 21st October 1941., Wehrmacht executed by shooting 7 000 people in Kragujevac and surroundings. Of those 7 000 dead, 3 000 were highschoolers of Kragujevac gymnasium.

The reason for this was attack by Partisans on German forces near Gornji Milanovci in late September. In the attack, 10 German soldiers were killed and further 26 wounded. Following the orders of the General-Field Marshall Wilhelm Keitel, that for every killed German soldier a hundred civilians were to be killed, and 50 civilians killed for ever wounded soldier, Germans did so.

German commander of Kragujevac, Captain Otto von Bischofhausen, informed his superior, Major Konig, and the action was immediately begun. In several days, the people were rounded up and then shot at several places near Kragujevac. Along with the hostages were also killed 300 students of one class of gymnasium. Also executed was German soldier Joseph Schultz because he refused to shoot the children.

A group of small Roma conducted themselves especially bravely. They, as shoe cleaners, refused to clean the shoes of the German soldiers, and were also shot. Their act was photographed and thus preserved for the posterior. In total, 7 000 people were murdered in two days.


Problem? All of this is a lie.

On 28th September 1941., Partisans and their then-allies the Chetniks attacked a German patrol. On 15th October Partisans and Chetniks mounted another attack, and Germans were forced to take action. German top commander was Paul Hoffman, but he allowed his subordinates to act according to their own assessments. They in turn asked for help from Ljotić’s and Nedić’s troops, who were technically in the Chetniks but were cooperating with the Germans.

These Chetnik groups arrested – not killed, arrested – 7 000 hostages. German captain Otto von Bischofhausen ordered 4 700 people to be released, because they were excess. This order was sent to local associates, who executed that order in a very organized manner. 300 students were kept – helpers had released their friends, and friends of friends, but not the children. Captain von Bischofhausen released 240 children. Thus around 2 100 people were left in the group for execution, when orders had been to execute 2 300. Major Konig hid this and reported that the number had been achieved. Over the next two days, 2 070 people were shot. While this is still a massive crime, Communists clearly overreported numbers (as usual).

As for Joseph Schultz, he was in Belgrade at the time. He was killed a month later, during offensive against the “Užice Republic”.

As for Roma, they could only have cleaned the shoes in Kragujevac before the war, but not after Yugoslavia fell. Especially not in October when they were being arrested, since racial laws had been just introduced in occupied Serbia – over a month before same laws were introduced in NDH. Photo which shows Roma children refusing to clean German shoes is a lie, being in fact taken from a (largely fictional) Yugoslav movie “Krvava bajka” (“Bloody Tale”), which dramatizes the crime in Kragujevac.

While crimes did happen, Yugoslav politics as usual led to massive overiflation of crimes. Money and political propaganda care not for truth and ethics – and there were significant reparations at stake there. These reparations are also the reason why the bogus number of 1 700 000 casualties of World War II in Yugoslavia is often found, despite the fact that actual number of casualties is around a million less (700 000 most likely, but could be anywhere between 500 000 and 1 000 000).
"Over the next two days, 2 070 people were shot. "
Is that your argument, they only killed 2000+?
 

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"Over the next two days, 2 070 people were shot. "
Is that your argument, they only killed 2000+?
Point here is that the Communists lie, as usual:
"Over the next two days, 2 070 people were shot. While this is still a massive crime, Communists clearly overreported numbers (as usual)."

Yes, killing 2 000 people is a major crime. But if killing 2 000 is as bad as killing 7 000, why did Communists feel the need to inflate the numbers?

And if they cannot be trusted to be truthful even about things that prove Nazis to be evil, how can one expect the Communists to be truthful about things that show Communists themselves to be evil?
 

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If i am not mistaken, this exaggeration has been corrected. Has it not?

I believe your post is about how this incident was viewed (with respect to number of killed) some time ago by communist historians & not how it is viewed today.

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I remember, reading an article (some time back) that both Chetniks & partisans both agreed on the numbers. (Unfortunately, cannot recall the source now but some scholar named Jozzo or Josso & another one whose name i cannot recollect put numbers between 5000-7000.

Again, i do not recollect from which side it was from.(that might explain the deviation)

But yes, history should be as accurate as possible without any exaggerations from any side.
 
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