Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

[Defcon 1]

I think you're wrong on this.
India don't need a ABM Destroyer like Kongo and Atago because we share land border with both of our adversaries.

Hmm, didn't know about Kongo class. Ok but Kolkata will never have such capabilities. We will need to develop a separate missile system for this job.

 

[HMS Astute]

Yes, the radars used on this destroyer are capable and India is already testing the ABM systems.

Great. It will be able to be a part of the Active Layered Theatre Ballistic Missile Defence.

 

[HMS Astute]

All SAMs have capability to intercept missiles. But ABM or BMD is used against ballistic missiles which are always fired at large stationary targets like cities. Not ships. No ships are used for ABM purposes.

In Europe, AAW destroyers are used as part of the ALTBMD. Aster 30 Block 2 is wide area defence capable against 3000 km-range ballistic missiles.

 

[ladder]

In Europe, AAW destroyers are used as part of the ALTBMD. Aster 30 Block 2 is wide area defence capable against 3000 km-range ballistic missiles.

The two adversaries that India have long land boundary with India, so India is concentrating on land based BMD.

India has no plans to provide ship based BMD to cover distant lands. So, ship based BMD is not a priority now.

Though in future AAD and PAD or it's later variants ( more likely ) may see service with larger naval ships. But now there is no such plans.

 

[HMS Astute]

Off topic: don't know how capable this is, but it costs $3.45 per unit.

And it's engines/propulsions are made by the BAE Systems. Expensive ship, but good for the UK defence company, though.

 

[HMS Astute]

Off topic: don't know how capable this is, but it costs $3.45 billion per unit.

And it's engines/propulsions are made by the BAE Systems. Expensive ship, but good for the UK defence company, though.

 

[HMS Astute]

And over $12bn for program cost for 3x ships. That's an impressive way to waste the tax payers' money.

 

[p2prada]

Off topic: don't know how capable this is, but it costs $3.45 per unit.

Can I order a dozen for myself?

 

[HMS Astute]

Can I order a dozen for myself?

I was thinking the same!

Seriously, you can get so many decent ships with that (bn) cost. For example, around 70x Pak Fa aircraft. Just saying...

 

[HMS Astute]

I was thinking the same!

Seriously, you can get so many decent ships/things with that (bn) cost. For example, around 70x Pak Fa aircraft. Just saying...

 

[HMS Astute]

My fantasy fleet of the Indian Navy!

3 x 80,000 tons Gandhi class CTOBAR carriers (SIN Mahatma Gandhi, FIN Delhi, MIN Mumbai)
2 x LPD's (25,000 tons)
3 x LSD's (25,000 tons)
8 x Type 45 Destroyers (Anti Aerial Warfare, 8,500 tons)
12 x Kolkata class Destroyers for (Anti Surface Warfare, 7,500 tons)
12 x Global Combat Ships for (Anti Submarine Warfare, 6,000 tons)
22 x C3 Corvette MCMV's (General purpose and coast guard, 3,000 tons)
6 x Joint Support Ships (35,000 tons)
6 x Fleet Tankers (32,000 tons)
6 x RORO Container transport ships (25,000 tons)
2 x Ice patrol ships (8,000 tons)
1 x Ocean Survey (6,000 tons)
2 x Costal survey ships (6,000 tons)
4 x SSBN Subs (18,000 tons)
12 x SSN Indira class Subs (8,000 tons)

Navy helicopters quantity same as now but just add an extra 8 x Merlin helo's built for MCM operations and forming part of the navy FAA, Airborn Mine Counter Measure Squadron. AMCM.

150 x F35C Jets
60 x Chinook (Licence built in India)
70 x Apache
12 x F18G Growler - electronic warfare jets
10 x E-2D Advanced Airborn Early Warning aircraft

Having three carriers you can have two available at any time with the other in refit/repair.

One carrier leads the 'Expeditionary Strike Group' comprising:

1 x Carrier (50 x F35C, 4 x F18G, 4 x AEW, 2 x Merlin ASW.)
3 x Type 45 Destroyers
3 x Type 26 Combat Frigates
3 x Kolkata class Destroyers
2 x C3 Corvette MCMV's
1 x JSS
1 x Fleet tanker
1 x SSN


The other carrier leads India'Amphibious Ready Group' comprising: (During peace time)

1 x Carrier (15 x F35C, 4 x F18G, 4 x AEW, 4 x Chinook, 2 x Merlin AMCM, 10 x Merlin commando helo's, 6 x Apache gunships.)
1 x LPD
1 x LSD
3 x Type 45 Destroyers
3 x Type 26 Combat Frigates
3 x Kolkata class Destroyers
2 x C3 Corvette MCMV's
2 x JSS
1 x Fleet tanker
1 x SSN

Would this fleet profile make you happier? Feel free to add additional power projection

 

[Eastman]

Gandhi Class

btw @ Defon_1 Kolkata Class should not have Barak 1 installed on it as discussed by other members before in this thread, or other wise they have tested the CG Barak-1s with MF-STAR radar.

 

[Eastman]

but INS Rajib Gandhi (Bharat Ratna award reciver)is a possibility

Moto: We march south for peace.

 

[jmj_overlord]

PM Modi inducts India's largest indigenously built warship INS Kolkata - The Times of India

 

[ninja85]

I was thinking the same!

Seriously, you can get so many decent ships/things with that (bn) cost. For example, around 70x Pak Fa aircraft. Just saying...

so losing even one gonna cost you tremendous perhaps you shouldn't use it because losing some of the 5th generation stealth pakfa's to kill one of these not a bad deal as pakfa's cost much less than it so india could spare some, just saying.

 

[ninja85]

Indian media reported that India took 10 years to build a destroyer. Why is it being delayed even Israel/Ukraine/Russia etc are helping the project and providing their technology?

well only madamji could answer this as corrupt congress wants pakibeggars to have most of india if not all and not just kashmir.

 

[cobra commando]

TRISHUL: Fitments Of Project 15A DDG INS Kolkata D-63

 

[HMS Astute]

well only madamji could answer this as corrupt congress wants pakibeggars to have most of india if not all and not just kashmir.

And why is India building only 3x of them, whereas China is building like 30x at the same time? The gap is going to be very huge unless India starts spending more on defence and building more ships.

 

[PaliwalWarrior]

And why is India building only 3x of them, whereas China is building like 30x at the same time? The gap is going to be very huge unless India starts spending more on defence and building more ships.

Going to happen soon just watch

 

[Bheeshma]

If you are talking about Type-054A type frigates they have no endurance t go beyond their shores. Though I agree IN needs to increase orders for P-28A and P-17a.