- Feb 16, 2009
If Kashmir goes it will mean 15 other countries also being formed out of India, it will send a positive message to all the other separtists that they can also get their separation from India.
Satish why not let give the separaists in other places have the same fair treatment khalistanis, the ones in the northeast and probably in tamil nadu in the future too why favor one group over the other,let them all have their separation?What is there in POK mate? Just barren land with mountains. What is the use of having it?...we already have the economically Viable part. The PoK actually keeps China happy. If that is gone China is a cornered cat. China's only alternative route is the Karakorum Highway as the whole of South China sea and the Mallaca straits can be blockaded. so it is a strict no for PoK.
While I understand the larger point you are making, but IMO this kind of thinking is falling for the trap. If India were only facing Pakistan, we would have taken over POK long time back, heck we would have perhaps divided Pakistan into many more parts in 1971 itself. The fact is we are not just against Pakistan, but also US and China. Pakistan cannot drown becoz it will be kept afloat by the 'aid' from US and China. This has been going on from the time of independence, and this will continue in future. That is only reason for GOI to be restrained. When we take on Pakistan, GOI has to factor in both US and China's role, therefore we have to be so careful. Otherwise, who cares whether behtullah is with pakistan or against them. We can easily take on both talibs and PAs combo. That is not even a consideration for us.let us for a moment think of the consequences had india attacked pakistan post 26/11. a divided pakistan that we see now where pak army is attacking and killing its own people which is sowing the seeds of resentment with in that country for a troubled future would have never been possible but on the contrary they would have stood united in the words of baituallah mehsud and confronted any attack coming from indian soil. pakistan was desperate for such a solution but thank GOD better sense prevailed on india's part and we never provided such a solution to them. best way of dealing with pakistan is let them fight and kill each other and if possible provide them with arms and ammunitions in doing that and in the process make them so weak that they disintegrate so that there is a separate baluchistan and we get back our kashmir which has been occupied by them. let us not be a solution to the problems that pakistan faces and we should never provide them with any such opportunities.
LF,we can integrate POK by bringing economic development to the region and prosperity that the people will never have with pakistan,if people are not happy let them permanently leave to pakistan, as far as one inch of land being given up goes i rather see nuclear strikes before letting that happen.
maybe Indian govt should try the same approach until pakistan is broken, i am sure they will break pretty easy.I think what the Pakistani leadership has been stating forever is that they will continue to fuel terrorism in Kashmir district, and support any operations that Pakistan based terrorists carry out in India, unless the Indian government agrees to a permanent solution.
The only permanent solution is dismantling Pakistan itself. According to Pakistan, Kashmir problem will be solved permanently only when Kashmir is given to them. Do you think giving Kashmir to Pakistan will solve the problem permanently?. I don't think so.I think what the Pakistani leadership has been stating forever is that they will continue to fuel terrorism in Kashmir district, and support any operations that Pakistan based terrorists carry out in India, unless the Indian government agrees to a permanent solution.
OIC, NATO, US, China, Russia...etc Everyone has their own agenda and they will pursue it. If we prove ourselves on secularism, they will unearth something else. Lets not take all these things too seriously. Pakistan has no problem with China crushing olighar muslims, why? becoz it suits them. Its just geopolitics at play, all the talk of moral is mere hogwash and not to be taken too seriously. Let not India strive too hard for the pat on back by anyone. If it is necessary to kill or shunt away a sizeable population of POK, so be it. Integrating is first and best option but never be fooled to believe that it is the only option. It certainly is not.LF,
people are very important aspect to the whole issue of kashmir. one reason other than many on which kashmir is important to india is secularism, and if we can have pok along with the people living there and if they can be integrated into the nation building process then that will be a big boost to the union of india and a big snub to all anti india forces trying to corner us on religious intolerance and also to secularism which is very important for our integration to stay the way it is. now if people living there are shunned or for that matter people in j&k are made to leave then that will be a big stain on our claim to secularism and this will send wrong signals to muslims and other minorities in india and as happened after gujarat riots there will be resentment in the muslim population, a stituation of which the pakistanis will certainly make full use. now think if we can get pok with people, all those voices against us in oic will be made to shut up for once and all and it gets important that we win support in that part of the world because as we will jostle for our space as a super/hyper power then we will require a lot of support from a lot of corners and all these countries will get very important for that support.
India already has spent shit-load of money for the "development" of Kashmir ignoring states like Bihar (which aren't trying to separate themselves from the hand that feeds them).we can integrate POK by bringing economic development to the region and prosperity that the people will never have with pakistan,if people are not happy let them permanently leave to pakistan, as far as one inch of land being given up goes i rather see nuclear strikes before letting that happen.
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