Kashmir conflict-India should act now?

[raheel besharam]

So finally @Indx TechStyle managed to find the social media accounts of Indian intel agencies. Say my "HI" to them. They're probably definitely fake profiles created by Indian intel for information warfare purposes. Kashmiri people will never say such a thing. They are like "kutte ki poonnch". These twitter accounts are probably handled by some IPS level officer who has recently cleared the civil services and joined in the intel department. It's probably some Sharma ji or Mishra ji tweeting as Noori Hoori Phoori.

Hahahahaha still laughing....awesome comment

 

[AnantS]

I've always wondered why Kashmiri Pandits didn't pick up arms and fight instead of leaving. I feel like people from our state would NEVER leave their land, no?

Veere sorry to say, but KP Kayar kaum hai. It was shri GGS, GTB, later Dogra and Ranjit SIngh kngdoms who had to save their ass each time... Contrast them with Mohyal Brahmins of Punjab(Mati das, sati das etc), Bhumihar(Mangal Pandey), Chitpavan(Maratha/Peshva) .

Even before islamic invasions, when Kushans had conquered KP, it was Vikramaditya (I think) from central India, had to save their ass.

 

[IndianHawk]

Veere sorry to say, but KP Kayar kaum hai. It was shri GGS, GTB, later Dogra and Ranjit SIngh kngdoms who had to save their ass each time... Contrast them with Mohyal Brahmins of Punjab(Mati das, sati das etc), Bhumihar(Mangal Pandey), Chitpavan(Maratha/Peshva) .

Even before islamic invasions, when Kushans had conquered KP, it was Vikramaditya (I think) from central India, had to save their ass.

But they can't be blamed for all of it . It's the govt of India which abandoned them . Not just terrorists and Muslim rioters but entire j&k state machine turned against them .

GOI at that time should have stepped up just like modi doing today with separatists.

Shame belongs to all of us for having such a coward regime at that time

 

[AnantS]

But they can't be blamed for all of it . It's the govt of India which abandoned them . Not just terrorists and Muslim rioters but entire j&k state machine turned against them .

GOI at that time should have stepped up just like modi doing today with separatists.

Shame belongs to all of us for having such a coward regime at that time

I am talking about period before Congress. Even during favorable regimes, they(KP) did not take up self defense. Contrast them with their genetic cousins, Chitpavan

 

[Screambowl]

Kashmiri Pandits are bunch of clever minds. They ran away from Srinagar because they know there is no opportunity. Few went abroad, few got settled in delhi and few are still refugees.

The whole drama of Pandits being weak is just another nonsense taught by whom, no idea. Go to UP, or Bihar .. the way Pandits thrash Mullas is no where seen in the world.

 

[republic_roi97]

The whole drama of Pandits being weak is just another nonsense taught by whom, no idea. Go to UP, or Bihar .. the way Pandits thrash Mullas is no where seen in the world.

agreed............... I am from UP.

 

[DingDong]

Kashmiri Pandits are bunch of clever minds. They ran away from Srinagar because they know there is no opportunity. Few went abroad, few got settled in delhi and few are still refugees.

The whole drama of Pandits being weak is just another nonsense taught by whom, no idea. Go to UP, or Bihar .. the way Pandits thrash Mullas is no where seen in the world.

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger




Truth to be told, before 1990s Kashmiri pundits and muslims were "racially" united against the people from down south incl. Jammu. Jihad changed everything. Kashmiri Pundits did suffer a lot at the hands of the Jihadis there is no doubt about it.

 

[Screambowl]

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger




Truth to be told, before 1990s Kashmiri pundits and muslims were "racially" united against the people from down south incl. Jammu. Jihad changed everything. Kashmiri Pundits did suffer a lot at the hands of the Jihadis there is no doubt about it.

No Prashuram will come before Kalki avtar to save these Jhankarbeats Pandits.. They have to be stronger.

They are not following dharm told by Krishna in Gita.

 

[Anikastha]

The unemployed and uneducated youth in Kashmir have a source of income there. All they need to do is to present themselves as “Freedom Fighters” of Kashmir. Then they have to perform some thrilling and adventurous activities. They get paid accordingly! A fun-filled job for the youth. More so for school-going children. There is a risk of injury of course. But who cares when the blood is hot and money is easy?

Their Rate-Card is fixed. For throwing stones at the Indian Army Jawans, Rs 100 to Rs 500 per day. For stealing their weapons Rs 500 per weapon. For Grenade stealing and lobbying Rs 1000 per Grenade. But suddenly these brave Stone Pelters seem to be jobless. To be precise, since the historic move of Demonetization by our PM Modi , these misguided Kashmiri youth have lost their daily wages and daily thrilling experiences.

These agitations in Kashmir are staged by separatists like Syed Geelani, Yasin Malik Sheikh Yaqoob and so on. The payments are to be made on a day to day basis to the poor young Stone pelters. Suddenly they are unable to pay these young kids. With no monetary returns, these young kids discover that they are no longer the ‘freedom fighters’ of Kashmir.

The investigating agencies have found a steady flow of money into Kashmir through Hawala channels of Pakistan. According to the report from Ministry of Home Affairs and few probing agencies, Crore of rupees have been smuggled to Jammu and Kashmir in gas cylinders. All of a sudden, PM Modi announces Demonetization. The crores of money stashed in Hawala Channels suddenly cease to be money. It becomes a pile of papers. Separatists are clueless, their funders speechless and as a result the stone pelters jobless. PM Modi kills three birds in one stone called ‘Demonetization’! As it turns out, PM Modi plays a Stone Pelter to this trio.

The Jammu and Kashmir Police has reported to New Delhi that separatists are bewildered by this crisis of Demonetization. The black money supplied by Pakistan through Hawala channels to Pro-Pakistan Separatists is in 500 and 1000 denominations. On 8th November , late evening PM Modi’s announcement of Demonetization of 500 and 1000 rupee notes was heartily applauded by Indians. But it surely sent a chill down the spines of all anti-national people. Separatists are panicked beyond limit as their source of income has dried up all of a sudden. Surprisingly (or not so) ,many politicians from Congress, Aam Aadmi Party and Paid Media are whining in the same tunes of these separatists.

It is stated by Top Intelligence officials that the backbone of the network of separatists is badly broken with the stoppage of funds from last few 3-4 days. With all the piled black money of Hawala discarded, Kashmir Agitation agenda of Separatists will have to be postponed. The Hawala Channel needs to recuperate from the shattering loss and build back their network of black money slowly. The process of recovery is going to take at least 4 to 5 months. Separatists have to keep their activities on hold.

And in the meantime we Indians are happy! PM Modi’s Demonetization has not only destroyed black money in the country, but it also has spared our Jawans in Kashmir of getting hit by a hurling stone!

Jyothi Suparna Chincholi
http://postcard.news/violence-jammu-kashmir-suddenly-stopped/



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[SADAKHUSH]

The unemployed and uneducated youth in Kashmir have a source of income there. All they need to do is to present themselves as “Freedom Fighters” of Kashmir. Then they have to perform some thrilling and adventurous activities. They get paid accordingly! A fun-filled job for the youth. More so for school-going children. There is a risk of injury of course. But who cares when the blood is hot and money is easy?

Their Rate-Card is fixed. For throwing stones at the Indian Army Jawans, Rs 100 to Rs 500 per day. For stealing their weapons Rs 500 per weapon. For Grenade stealing and lobbying Rs 1000 per Grenade. But suddenly these brave Stone Pelters seem to be jobless. To be precise, since the historic move of Demonetization by our PM Modi , these misguided Kashmiri youth have lost their daily wages and daily thrilling experiences.

These agitations in Kashmir are staged by separatists like Syed Geelani, Yasin Malik Sheikh Yaqoob and so on. The payments are to be made on a day to day basis to the poor young Stone pelters. Suddenly they are unable to pay these young kids. With no monetary returns, these young kids discover that they are no longer the ‘freedom fighters’ of Kashmir.

The investigating agencies have found a steady flow of money into Kashmir through Hawala channels of Pakistan. According to the report from Ministry of Home Affairs and few probing agencies, Crore of rupees have been smuggled to Jammu and Kashmir in gas cylinders. All of a sudden, PM Modi announces Demonetization. The crores of money stashed in Hawala Channels suddenly cease to be money. It becomes a pile of papers. Separatists are clueless, their funders speechless and as a result the stone pelters jobless. PM Modi kills three birds in one stone called ‘Demonetization’! As it turns out, PM Modi plays a Stone Pelter to this trio.

The Jammu and Kashmir Police has reported to New Delhi that separatists are bewildered by this crisis of Demonetization. The black money supplied by Pakistan through Hawala channels to Pro-Pakistan Separatists is in 500 and 1000 denominations. On 8th November , late evening PM Modi’s announcement of Demonetization of 500 and 1000 rupee notes was heartily applauded by Indians. But it surely sent a chill down the spines of all anti-national people. Separatists are panicked beyond limit as their source of income has dried up all of a sudden. Surprisingly (or not so) ,many politicians from Congress, Aam Aadmi Party and Paid Media are whining in the same tunes of these separatists.

It is stated by Top Intelligence officials that the backbone of the network of separatists is badly broken with the stoppage of funds from last few 3-4 days. With all the piled black money of Hawala discarded, Kashmir Agitation agenda of Separatists will have to be postponed. The Hawala Channel needs to recuperate from the shattering loss and build back their network of black money slowly. The process of recovery is going to take at least 4 to 5 months. Separatists have to keep their activities on hold.

And in the meantime we Indians are happy! PM Modi’s Demonetization has not only destroyed black money in the country, but it also has spared our Jawans in Kashmir of getting hit by a hurling stone!

Jyothi Suparna Chincholi
http://postcard.news/violence-jammu-kashmir-suddenly-stopped/



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Thank you for your post. Those of us who live overseas have to depend on independent journalists and their analysis to learn the actual facts and situation.

 

[brational]

Har hafte 5 ko uthao and dump them into ditch, Kashmir problem will be solved. Play games as per baki books. Gill policy is the best one, but go covert..

 

[Indx TechStyle]

J&K students defy separatists, 95% turn out for class XII exams

 

[republic_roi97]

Best Idea, withdraw Article 370 and give all the black money hoarders liberty. They'll buy entire Kashmir upto Tajikistan

 

[Indx TechStyle]

190 Youth From Kashmir Inducted In Indian Army

Srinagar: 190 youth hailing from various parts of Jammu and Kashmir state were today inducted as soldiers in the army after completing one-year strenuous training.

The Jammu and Kashmir Light Infantry Regimental Centre today, showcased its latest batch of 190 passing out recruits from the State of J&K. Recruit Course Serial number 107, on having completed one year of strenuous training was attested today at a glittering parade at the Bana Singh Parade Ground of JAK LI RC. Their Passing Out Parade, depicting graduation of a Recruit and his transformation into a Young Soldier, was reviewed by Lt Gen Rakesh Sharma, who is the Director General of Operational Logistic & Strategic Movement in Army HQ and was attended by over 1500 parents / relatives of the young soldiers from the State of J&K along with a number of civil and military dignitaries.

He said the dauntless young soldiers of the Regiment hailing from all regions and religions of the State of J&K, marching in precise unison with a singular aim of devoting their lives in service of their nation, singing their Regimental Song ‘Balidanam Veer Lakshnam’, inspired one and all as their voice echoed in the Valley. Their Ceremonial ardor and salute to the tri-colour with National Anthem playing inspired patriotic vigor in all present.

Lt Gen Rakesh Sharma congratulated the Young Soldiers for their immaculate Parade and impressed upon selfless service towards the Nation. He praised their contribution towards encouraging more & more youth from J&K to come forward to join the Security Forces & also highlighted the vital role played by their parents in motivating their wards to join this noble profession.

The young soldiers who distinguished themselves in varied facets of training were also felicitated by the Lt Gen Rakesh Sharma. Recruit Mukesh Kumar received the Sher-e-Kashmir Sword of Honour & Triveni Singh Medal for being adjudged ‘Over all Best Rect’ and Recruit Lal Hussain bagged the Chewang Rinchen Medal for being ‘Best in Firing’.

In the end, proud parents and relatives pipped the soldiers ready to join their battalions and to tread the immortal path of glory, living up to the expectations and the best traditions of the Army. As a mark of respect, gratitude & recognition of the contribution made by the parents of these young soldiers, they were also presented with the Gaurav Padaks instituted by the Army.

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[Subramanian]

Just Integrate them into India,make it normal for people to move and live there,just see.No other way,forget about it.

 

[Cutting Edge 2]

Chinis are now crossing the line. We must show them their Aukat.

Chinese leaders want to mediate between India, Pak on Kashmir’
Saibal Dasgupta| TNN | May 2, 2017, 10.55 PM IST

BEIJING: China's leaders want to play the role of a mediator between India and Pakistan on the Kashmir issue, Beijing-based paper Global Times, which has links to the Communist Party, said on Tuesday.

China is entitled to play the mediator because of the interests of Chinese companies investing in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (POK), the paper said.

The Indian government has said that it is opposed to Chinese investments in the disputed POK area. The paper has published a commentary, which goes beyond the issue of investments in POK, and uses it as a pretext to interfere in the sensitive India-Pakistan dispute.

"China has always adhered to the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of other countries, but that doesn't mean Beijing can turn a deaf ear to the demands of Chinese enterprises in protecting their overseas investments," the paper said.

It said, "China now has a vested interest in helping resolve regional conflicts including the dispute over Kashmir between India and Pakistan."
The commentary comes ahead of One Belt One Road (OBOR) forum in Beijing in mid-May. India has been reluctant to participate in the event over the issue of Chinese investments in POK under the OBOR programme. The commentary might further harden India's stand on attending the international conference.
China is at the centre of a regional power shift, and it could be a "stabilizing force and conflict mediator in the region," the paper said. "For instance, while China has the capability to resolve conflicts through mediation given its increased economic influence, the nation needs to be very prudent in dealing with other big powers, India included, in the region," it said.
"In fact, mediating between India and Pakistan over Kashmir issue would perhaps be one of the toughest challenges facing China in dealing with regional affairs to safeguard its overseas interests," the commentary said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...india-pak-on-kashmir/articleshow/58483658.cms

 

[square]

kashmir is a part of india and will remain so.....its a matter of time , how long can pakistan fund the terrorists....pakistan has started 3 war ....my gut feel says the fourth ,the decider of the conflict will be started by india....

 

[square]

Chinese leaders want to mediate between India, Pak on Kashmir’
Saibal Dasgupta| TNN | May 2, 2017, 10.55 PM IST

BEIJING: China's leaders want to play the role of a mediator between India and Pakistan on the Kashmir issue, Beijing-based paper Global Times, which has links to the Communist Party, said on Tuesday.

China is entitled to play the mediator because of the interests of Chinese companies investing in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (POK), the paper said.

The Indian government has said that it is opposed to Chinese investments in the disputed POK area. The paper has published a commentary, which goes beyond the issue of investments in POK, and uses it as a pretext to interfere in the sensitive India-Pakistan dispute.

"China has always adhered to the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of other countries, but that doesn't mean Beijing can turn a deaf ear to the demands of Chinese enterprises in protecting their overseas investments," the paper said.

It said, "China now has a vested interest in helping resolve regional conflicts including the dispute over Kashmir between India and Pakistan."
The commentary comes ahead of One Belt One Road (OBOR) forum in Beijing in mid-May. India has been reluctant to participate in the event over the issue of Chinese investments in POK under the OBOR programme. The commentary might further harden India's stand on attending the international conference.
China is at the centre of a regional power shift, and it could be a "stabilizing force and conflict mediator in the region," the paper said. "For instance, while China has the capability to resolve conflicts through mediation given its increased economic influence, the nation needs to be very prudent in dealing with other big powers, India included, in the region," it said.
"In fact, mediating between India and Pakistan over Kashmir issue would perhaps be one of the toughest challenges facing China in dealing with regional affairs to safeguard its overseas interests," the commentary said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...india-pak-on-kashmir/articleshow/58483658.cms

how much investment 50b$....

i can see the entire money going desd.....

 

[Yggdrasil]

Chinese leaders want to mediate between India, Pak on Kashmir’
Saibal Dasgupta| TNN | May 2, 2017, 10.55 PM IST

BEIJING: China's leaders want to play the role of a mediator between India and Pakistan on the Kashmir issue, Beijing-based paper Global Times, which has links to the Communist Party, said on Tuesday.

China is entitled to play the mediator because of the interests of Chinese companies investing in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (POK), the paper said.

The Indian government has said that it is opposed to Chinese investments in the disputed POK area. The paper has published a commentary, which goes beyond the issue of investments in POK, and uses it as a pretext to interfere in the sensitive India-Pakistan dispute.

"China has always adhered to the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of other countries, but that doesn't mean Beijing can turn a deaf ear to the demands of Chinese enterprises in protecting their overseas investments," the paper said.

It said, "China now has a vested interest in helping resolve regional conflicts including the dispute over Kashmir between India and Pakistan."
The commentary comes ahead of One Belt One Road (OBOR) forum in Beijing in mid-May. India has been reluctant to participate in the event over the issue of Chinese investments in POK under the OBOR programme. The commentary might further harden India's stand on attending the international conference.
China is at the centre of a regional power shift, and it could be a "stabilizing force and conflict mediator in the region," the paper said. "For instance, while China has the capability to resolve conflicts through mediation given its increased economic influence, the nation needs to be very prudent in dealing with other big powers, India included, in the region," it said.
"In fact, mediating between India and Pakistan over Kashmir issue would perhaps be one of the toughest challenges facing China in dealing with regional affairs to safeguard its overseas interests," the commentary said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...india-pak-on-kashmir/articleshow/58483658.cms

If an Indian news channel (Republic?) or its government had some guts and sense of mischief, it would release the following statement:

Indian leaders want to mediate between China, Tibet on Sovereignty
Mr Clever Guy, Republic | May 2, 2017, 10.55 PM IST

NEW DELHI: India's leaders want to play the role of a mediator between China and Tibet on the sovereignty issue, India-based paper Republic, which has links to the BJP, said on Tuesday.

India is entitled to play the mediator because of the interests of Tibetan exiles living in Dharamsala, the paper said.

The Chinese government has said that it is opposed to Indian support in the disputed Tibet area. The paper has published a commentary, which goes beyond the issue of support for the Dalai Lama, and uses it as a pretext to interfere in the sensitive Tibet-China dispute.

"India has always adhered to the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of other countries, but that doesn't mean New Delhi can turn a deaf ear to the demands of Tibetan exiles in protecting their homeland," the paper said.

It said, "India now has a vested interest in helping resolve regional conflicts including the dispute over sovereignty between China and Tibet."

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Should do this constantly about Tibet, Taiwan, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, etc. The way to do it is not to directly question sovereignty, but drive gentle wedges to suggest that the above territories need "mediation" in their dealings with China. The wording can get stronger every time, and it's possible that Trump and EU plus Australia and Japan may want to join us in needling China.

 

[Cutting Edge 2]

kashmir is a part of india and will remain so.....its a matter of time , how long can pakistan fund the terrorists....pakistan has started 3 war ....my gut feel says the fourth ,the decider of the conflict will be started by india....

They can't do this forever. Their obsession with Kashmir will destroy their own country.

If an Indian news channel (Republic?) or its government had some guts and sense of mischief, it would release the following statement:

Indian leaders want to mediate between China, Tibet on Sovereignty
Mr Clever Guy, Republic | May 2, 2017, 10.55 PM IST

NEW DELHI: India's leaders want to play the role of a mediator between China and Tibet on the sovereignty issue, India-based paper Republic, which has links to the BJP, said on Tuesday.

India is entitled to play the mediator because of the interests of Tibetan exiles living in Dharamsala, the paper said.

The Chinese government has said that it is opposed to Indian support in the disputed Tibet area. The paper has published a commentary, which goes beyond the issue of support for the Dalai Lama, and uses it as a pretext to interfere in the sensitive Tibet-China dispute.

"India has always adhered to the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of other countries, but that doesn't mean New Delhi can turn a deaf ear to the demands of Tibetan exiles in protecting their homeland," the paper said.

It said, "India now has a vested interest in helping resolve regional conflicts including the dispute over sovereignty between China and Tibet."

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Should do this constantly about Tibet, Taiwan, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, etc. The way to do it is not to directly question sovereignty, but drive gentle wedges to suggest that the above territories need "mediation" in their dealings with China. The wording can get stronger every time, and it's possible that Trump and EU plus Australia and Japan may want to join us in needling China.

I agree, GOI should scream Free Tibet every time Chinis mention the word Kashmir that too on DD networks.