JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

[indiazain]

None of your bla bla proves anything. MKI is a Russian product that you assemble under license in india.

Honestly speaking MKI is above your league...but I will summaries for you.
MkI
1) Air frame .... Russian + Indian inputs and modifications (this is especially true when we modified the air frame to fire the Bhramos)
2) Power plant : Russian with Indian inputs to enhance trust vectoring (As far as i can remember even the J10 dont have this feature)
3) Systems: (Russian -20% while remaining 70% are India +France+ Israel+south africa)

About 100 of this aircraft is all that we need for the entire PAF. I consider the JF17 -(any block) to be nothing more than a sitting duck.Talking about block 3 just because u clowns attach a AESA on an metal duck does not make it any powerful...unlike what the Chinese sold you.

Now lets compare Tejas and JF17

1) Air frame - Tejas -Far superior air frame with the use advance composites 100% in India. While Jf17 is a stolen and resold airframe (that too mig21 era air frame-- only beggers like u pakis would ever buy such a airframe).U pakis for sure dont understand aerodynamics which is based on physics and maths and not Islams Laws /Sharia or terror which u guys excel in.

2) Engine :Currently we are developing the Kaveri which will be ready later this year.
Also currently we use GE engines which in effect ensure that our air force will not be bullied by either Russia or USA.
Jf17 engine this is where the Chinese actually use the PAF as a test dummy. WS 13 engines are a joke of an engine,the Chinese themselves operate only two prototype aircraft with this engine.Now I am sure u guys learned your lesson from something as simple as Chinese Salt,and honestly to trust the communist with an engine.

3) Systems: Tejas --Explained a whole lot on this thread.
JF17: Well u guys cannot incorporate anything non Chinese. Infact it is useless to even talk about systems/weapon systems because JF17 as a platform is just junk.

An Immature and headless country like u Pakistanis must realize that when you deal with China all u get for your hard earned money is junk,which as a matter of fact u will realize in time.Unlike you paki clowns we India have technical knowledge and expertise and know what we buy.

 

[WolfPack86]

J -17 Thunder test fires C802 anti ship missiles in joint exercise.
https://twitter.com/indiandefencera?lang=en

 

[Dazzler]

Honestly speaking MKI is above your league...but I will summaries for you.
MkI
1) Air frame .... Russian + Indian inputs and modifications (this is especially true when we modified the air frame to fire the Bhramos)
2) Power plant : Russian with Indian inputs to enhance trust vectoring (As far as i can remember even the J10 dont have this feature)
3) Systems: (Russian -20% while remaining 70% are India +France+ Israel+south africa)

About 100 of this aircraft is all that we need for the entire PAF. I consider the JF17 -(any block) to be nothing more than a sitting duck.Talking about block 3 just because u clowns attach a AESA on an metal duck does not make it any powerful...unlike what the Chinese sold you.

Now lets compare Tejas and JF17

1) Air frame - Tejas -Far superior air frame with the use advance composites 100% in India. While Jf17 is a stolen and resold airframe (that too mig21 era air frame-- only beggers like u pakis would ever buy such a airframe).U pakis for sure dont understand aerodynamics which is based on physics and maths and not Islams Laws /Sharia or terror which u guys excel in.

2) Engine :Currently we are developing the Kaveri which will be ready later this year.
Also currently we use GE engines which in effect ensure that our air force will not be bullied by either Russia or USA.
Jf17 engine this is where the Chinese actually use the PAF as a test dummy. WS 13 engines are a joke of an engine,the Chinese themselves operate only two prototype aircraft with this engine.Now I am sure u guys learned your lesson from something as simple as Chinese Salt,and honestly to trust the communist with an engine.

3) Systems: Tejas --Explained a whole lot on this thread.
JF17: Well u guys cannot incorporate anything non Chinese. Infact it is useless to even talk about systems/weapon systems because JF17 as a platform is just junk.

An Immature and headless country like u Pakistanis must realize that when you deal with China all u get for your hard earned money is junk,which as a matter of fact u will realize in time.Unlike you paki clowns we India have technical knowledge and expertise and know what we buy.

There were no indian "inputs" in the airframe. You guys just redefine stupidity at times. The same airframe is used in MKM and SM, where did the input come from? Also, the canards were already being used in SU-33s so 30 MK using them was no big deal. China picked one without canards as they didnt deem necessary.

Rest of your post is just same gibberish that readers are seeing for the last few pages. :bs:

 

[pankaj nema]

There were no indian "inputs" in the airframe. You guys just redefine stupidity at times. The same airframe is used in MKM and SM, where did the input come from? Also, the canards were already being used in SU-33s so 30 MK using them was no big deal. China picked one without canards as they didnt deem necessary.

Rest of your post is just same gibberish that readers are seeing for the last few pages. :bs:

Whether you like it or NOT JF 17 is a piece of SHIT

And your Input in JF 17 was ZERO

Your engineers worked as Assistants ; Draughtsmen and Tradesmen in Chengdu :bounce:

Your country can only make Cotton textiles

 

[Dazzler]

Whether you like it or NOT JF 17 is a piece of SHIT

And your Input in JF 17 was ZERO

Your engineers worked as Assistants ; Draughtsmen and Tradesmen in Chengdu :bounce:

Your country can only make Cotton textiles

Your pilots know what it is, hence they dont dare cross the border.

 

[AMCA]

Your pilots know what it is, hence they dont dare cross the border.

And your pilots cross into indian airspace regularly flying this junk machine????????????

 

[tsunami]

Your pilots know what it is, hence they dont dare cross the border.

And your pilots know what it is so they never dare to shoot down a single US drone. Or may be they don't wanna shoot down national bird of Pakistan!!

 

[Dazzler]

And your pilots know what it is so they never dare to shoot down a single US drone. Or may be they don't wanna shoot down national bird of Pakistan!!

India is no US so you better stop thinking of yourself a shupa powa.

 

[tsunami]

India is no US so you better stop thinking of yourself a shupa powa.

India is no Pakistan either where anyone fly in and kill it's citizens w/o giving fuckes about it's sovereignty, and stupid airforce does nothing.

 

[indiazain]

Your pilots know what it is, hence they dont dare cross the border.

Pakistani airforce pissed in its pants for a airshow and even during Kargil ur state of the art f16s were held back by ur coward airforce.PAF is the biggest joke on earth..They cannot distinguish between a scientist,Pilot and engineer.
They claim to be the first airforce in the to manufacture/ design an fighter plane...anyone with even the minutest of common sence knows that pilots dont design airplanes..It is done by highly qualified aerodynamic experts.
Just ask China to provide u with bullet train technology..They laughed at the "state of Pakistan" and asked to be happy with a 120km/h train...I can understand u are a Pakistani but facts dont lie.Kindly refrain from making obnoxious statements that are not validated by real facts.

 

[AMCA]

India is no US so you better stop thinking of yourself a shupa powa.

India is no Pakistan either. We take appropriate actions even if it is a US Military plane.
https://m.timesofindia.com/india/US...rspace-forced-to-land/articleshow/4677933.cms

 

[Pandora]

Your pilots know what it is, hence they dont dare cross the border.

What do you mean by showing Jf 17 pic ?
Somw body put loaded Tejas in his ass.

 

[darshan978]

your pilot wont even dare to face it
forget su 30 tho.

 

[Flame Thrower]

Your pilots know what it is, hence they dont dare cross the border.

Pray to God that day never comes.....

Last Indian Armed Forces crossed the border, they had broken your country in two parts......

If IAF gnats could kill PAF sabers then imagine what Indian Flankers would do.....

 

[J20!]

The first JF17B twin seater was ferried to PAC on February 8th 2018. A 55 minute first flight by Pakistani personnel took place on 10th March 2018 by Aslam Imran.

 

[Steven Rogers]

The first JF17B twin seater was ferried to PAC on February 8th 2018. A 55 minute first flight by Pakistani personnel took place on 10th March 2018 by Aslam Imran.

One personnel only.

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[niku456]

One personnel only.

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Bro, they are afraid to lose their man in these Green painted Mig 21s. These are green painted reverse engineered copies of 3rd gen fighter( Soviet legacy fighter plane mig 21).

 

[J20!]

One personnel only.

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Bro, they are afraid to lose their man in these Green painted Mig 21s. These are green painted reverse engineered copies of 3rd gen fighter( Soviet legacy fighter plane mig 21).

Calm down "internet warriors". You do know that even twin-seaters have one pilot in control at any one time, right?

Aslam Imran was credited with the flight, even though there was another officer on-board.

 

[Steven Rogers]

Calm down "internet warriors". You do know that twin-seaters have one pilot in control at any one time, right?

Aslam Imran was credited with the flight, even though there was another officer on-board.

That was a jibe on late trainer of the aircraft

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[jat]

There were no indian "inputs" in the airframe. You guys just redefine stupidity at times. The same airframe is used in MKM and SM, where did the input come from? Also, the canards were already being used in SU-33s so 30 MK using them was no big deal. China picked one without canards as they didnt deem necessary.

Rest of your post is just same gibberish that readers are seeing for the last few pages. :bs:

Feel good don't you living in BS lies?
The canards we designed for extra lift in flight to even out the bars radars. IAF picked up some extra features, on top of that HAL makes MKI 5% smaller than the original. Take this pill, HAL produces the MKI inhouse more so than Pakistan produces the FC-1 or JF-17. Full ToT was provided but obviously not economical for MKI when you only need 200 or so airframes. Consider the 200+ airframes china bought off the shelf before ToT was provided.
You super JF-17 is nothing more than a mutilated and upgraded Mig-21/J-7. You don't see IAF running around making rapid purchases to protect against the mighty blunder. lol. One of the worse aircraft ever produced so much so even PLAAF saw no advantage in it.