J20 Stealth Fighter

[Godless-Kafir]

Depends on how she looks and what are here interests and hobbies..!

 

[Tolaha]

From up here, I can say with complete confidence that the lady in question has black hair, 2 legs and 2 hands as well. Though I cannot guarantee if all the 3 are real!
Best of luck trying to find her out!

 

[Tolaha]

If WS15 was impressive, then China wouldnt have gone for Russian engines even after 2005!

If Chinese avionics are superior, then the Pakistanis wouldnt have been trying so hard to get their hands on non-Chinese stuff to be fitted on their 'gifted' JF17. That is until recently, with them reverting to the Chinese stuff when they were sure that there was no other options available!

 

[sayareakd]

any other fighter can do this ???

 

[Tolaha]

My query to the above pic.... why would a fighter need to do this?

 

[Tshering22]

http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/12/indias-joint-defence-hq-orders-study-on.html

Thursday, December 30, 2010
India's Joint Defence HQ Orders Study On J-20

Two days before retiring from service, Air Marshal SC Mukul, the chief of India's Integrated Defence Staff (IDS) has instructed a Group Captain-rank officer at HQ IDS to prepare a report on the recently revealed Chinese stealth fighter prototype. The report will be India's official assessment of what, by all accounts, is a Chinese fifth generation platform. The study will, of course, rely mostly on open source material -- photographs, graphics, unofficial assessments -- on the J-20, though a source of mine indicates that the the officer entrusted with authoring the report will also take inputs from the IAF Directorate of Operations, the Directorate of Naval Aviation, the advanced projects and AMCA divisions of the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA), the National Aerospace Laboratory (NAL), the Aircraft Research & Design Centre at HAL, apart from the R&AW. The report will be provided to the Indian Air Force and the office of the National Security Advisor. The HQ IDS orders studies on foreign weapon programmes as a matter of routine. These assessments, obviously remain classified though files on Pakistan's air force strength did leak in 2007.

Won't it make more sense if the "Joint Staff" actually looks at J-20, draws inspiration and clears all the hurdles for AMCA to speed up to at least testbed levels until the end of this coming decade? Because whether we make something fast or slow; some sort of snag is always hit at the last moment that continues to take eons to get that equipment into the military. For example, we took 10 years to make Dhruv ALH but we just took 3 years to make the Dhruv LCH. However, its testing is taking so much time that something can be said only by the next year end and that too only in assumption. No matter how fast or slow our journey is from drawing board to testbed, it is always the induction that gets deathblows.

THIS is the only thing that Joint Staff must take into consideration and learn something about fast and sincere work.

 

[Tshering22]

any other fighter can do this ???

PAK FA... it does the same thing. Instead of having just the ends moving, the entire rudder swivels when yaw is done. Take a look at PAK FA's videos and you will see what I am talking about.

 

[Illusive]

Chengdu J-20

China's 5th Generation Fighter

Reports coming form internet sites in China have published images of a large, stealth-like aircraft that, if confirmed, could be the first hard evidence of China's new 5th Genaration multirole aircraft. The images show the parked aircraft being inspected, and taxiing along a taxiway. Analysts in the West accepted the images with some doubts, due to the Chinese' in displaying imaginary 'facts' but the photos released today seem genuine. recent reports coming from China mention Chengdu has recently completed two J-20 technology demonstrator aircraft sofar, one model will be used for the test flights and another one will be used for ground testing. (Check our news blog for J-20 updates)

The development of such program was known for some time but has never officially attributed to a specific type or maker. In 2009 deputy commander of the People's Liberation Army Air Force He Weirong stated in a TV interview that China had multiple such programs underway and that an as-yet-undesignated fifth-generation fighter developed jointly by Chengdu Aircraft Corporation and Shenyang Aircraft Corporation would be in service by 2017-2019. According to U.S. intelligence assessments Chinese 5th generation aircraft could become operational by the turn of the decade.

"The impression here is of a big, long aircraft, 70+ feet from nose to tail, which would make sense for a number of reasons. Rob Hewson at Jane's has reported that Russia has supplied 32,000-pound thrust 117S engines for the J-20, which would be adequate for an aircraft in the 80,000 pound class - with perhaps lower supercruise performance and agility than an F-22, but with larger weapon bays and more fuel" writes aerospace analyst Bill Sweetman, editor of Aviation Week/DTI. Chinese sources have claimed that production aircraft will be powered by two 13,200kg/WS-10 class high thrust turbofan engines, coupled with Thrust Vector Controlled (TVC) nozzles both made in China. Russian assistance has been speculated with the supply of 14,000kg class Salyut 99M2 turbofan engines powering the prototypes. The Chinese could also get Russian assistance in radar cross section simulation for the new stealth design.

http://www.defense-update.com/products/j/29122010_j-20.html

 

[chex3009]

The future of China's fifth-generation stealth fighter

2010-12-30 (China Military News cited from rian.ru and written by Ilya Kramnik) -- Both experts and amateurs who have studied the blurred photos of an unfamiliar fighter jet on a runway in China have concluded that Beijing has started testing its fifth-generation stealth fighter.
The J-20 prototype is expected to rival the U.S. F-22 and the Russian T-50 fighters. But is China ready to start mass-producing the aircraft? How good is the prototype?
Experts call it a combination of the Russian and U.S. fifth-generation fighters, but that greatly simplifies matters. In the last 20 years, China has been working closely with Russia to develop a modern fighter jet. But the J-20 is not simply a copy of a Russian design. Rather China has tried to build a completely new aircraft based on the technology and knowledge it has gained during its years of cooperation with Russia.

The future of the new Chinese fighter will depend on several factors.
engine
It is not clear what kind of engine the plane will have. Some say it will use the prospective Chinese-made WS-15 engine with a maximum thrust exceeding 18,000 kg, but the engine is still in the pipeline.
China has been unable to reproduce Russia's highly efficient high-temperature turbofan AL-31F engine, designed in the early 1980s and currently mounted on the Su-27 fighter and its modifications. The engines for Sukhoi planes manufactured in China are made in Russia and then assembled and adjusted in China.
The AL-31F engine is also mounted on China's J-10 fighter planes. The engine's Chinese analogue, the WS-10, is less efficient than the Russian prototype.

http://www.china-defense-mashup.com/?p=9671

 

[Bluewolf]

YO! Do you trust the report about j-20 from the big brother (USA)？Check this out:

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blog...&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest

 

[Kunal Biswas]

PS:

 

[SHASH2K2]

YO! Do you trust the report about j-20 from the big brother (USA)？Check this out:

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blog...&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest

no yo what is so special in that news from your big brother America. They didn't say anything about plane being state of the art or has potential to be a world beater . Read carefully before jumping with joy.

 

[smiling_scorpion]

not matter if 5G bird is real and if it is a good creation of Chinese own militry industry.let's wait and see,discussing is useless

 

[LETHALFORCE]

http://japansw.wordpress.com/2010/1...hat-does-it-mean-for-japan-and-does-it-exist/

China's J-20 fighter: what does it mean for Japan? And does it exist?

I don't know, I'm just asking. Assuming it exists, will Japan's force of upgraded F-15Js still be sufficient to do the job, or will Japan be forced to accelerate development of ATD-X?

I still find myself skeptical this plane actually exists. The Internet is falling all over itself to scrutinize these photos without stopping to consider that China is a master of propaganda and has a track record of hoaxes to further the national interest. There's a lot of excitement out there about this plane, but I don't see a lot of critical thinking going on. (For example, if photographs are so easy to take, where's the video of this thing actually moving?)

http://japansw.wordpress.com/2010/06/12/boeing-willing-to-let-japan-modify-super-hornet/

Boeing willing to let Japan modify Super Hornet

Boeing announced it was willing to open up the F-18E Super Hornet to Japan, should Japan choose it as winner of the 40-60 plane F-X buy.

Boeing, which is proposing the F/A-18E/F for Japan's forthcoming FX fighter competition, would be willing to let the nation develop its manufacturing capability through the joint development of a new derivative of the Super Hornet. (Link)

Boeing had previously announced it would be willing to let Japan manufacture at least some of the planes itself, under license.

There is one line in the article I would take issue with:

Some industry observers predict that whichever company wins the FX competition is also likely to win in a subsequent FXX requirement. This is likely to seek over 100 fighters to replace some of Japan's older Boeing F-15s.

Japan's F-15s are air superiority fighters, and when one thinks air superiority fighter, the Super Hornet is not the first plane to come to mind. It's a great plane, but the Japanese will have money to spend, and will buy the best short of an F-22. If Japan chooses not to go forward with the ATD-X project, it could go with an updated F-15, though ideally something with supercruise. Or, depending on how U.S. – Japanese relations go, a Eurofighter Typhoon.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blog...mmentKey:94e5dd7c-4dff-4851-ae2a-f3792c45aafc

How Not To Think About The J-20

Now that the last few skeptics have been converted to the idea that the J-20 is a real airplane, and not the product of a network of Chinese teenage boys armed with Photoshop, the internetz are rife with speculation about the project's schedule, technology and capabilities.

Much of it is both premature and misguided, the result of several basic errors in analysis, politics and prejudice.

The first mistake is "mirror imaging". The Tu-22M Backfire was not a B-1, but the USAF wanted it to be one, because they desperately wanted to resurrect the B-1. The MiG-25 looked like the air-superiority fighters that the USAF was sketching in the late 1960s, but it was nothing of the sort. And just because the front end of the J-20 looks like an F-22 does not mean that it is an F-22 clone.

One problem with mirror-imaging is the unspoken assumption that the other guys face the same challenges that you do. But to take a couple of examples, the Russians in the Cold War never had to worry about a dense, layered surface-to-air missile threat and the US does not face an adversary with a significant carrier force.

A related source of error is an attempt to exploit the appearance of a new Chinese or Russian system to support a pre-existing belief system. That's why people who want more defense spending will upsell the threat, and predict that the new whatever-it-is will be operational next week and in production at a rate of 100 per year, and those on the other side will point to the adversary's primitive technology level, and argue that the new aircraft is merely an X-plane. The right answer usually lies between those points, but more importantly, it won't be found that way.

There's a healthy dose of cultural prejudice behind both errors. Mirror-imaging, in the Cold War and today, is supported by the idea that Communists are unimaginative bureaucrats who can't innovate their way out of a wet paper bag. We found out this wasn't true, on a massive scale, after 1991: for instance, the combination of helmet-mounted sights and high off-boresight missiles sent the US scrambling to develop the AIM-9X, and US spy satellites fly on Energomash RD-180 engines.

China's military engineers and planners have unintentionally reinforced this image over the decades, preferring to upgrade Soviet-era systems rather than developing new platforms. But that tends to obscure the fact that (to take one example) the latest version of the HQ-2 surface-to-air missile bears only an external resemblance to the Soviet V-750.

Since the current military modernization started, new weapons havev been increasingly innovative. The question of Israeli technical assistance notwithstanding, the J-10 does not resemble any other fighter, and the J-10B less so. In other domains, systems like the Type 022 fast missile boat resemble nothing anywhere else (and could that be one reason for the fast-paced ONR/DARPA LRASM program?).

Next question: what does the J-20 look like from a Chinese perspective? Watch this space.

 

[Minghegy]

Engines, the fourth is WS-10, the last is WS-10A


FYJS.CN has malware so pics being removed :- google deteching malware

 

[cir]

Apparently something of more importance and significance ocurred on 26.12.2010. The excitement over the appearance of the J-20 now seems to be a decoy. :emot157:

 

[Minghegy]

Apparently something of more importance and significance ocurred on 26.12.2010. The excitement over the appearance of the J-20 now seems to be a decoy. :emot157:

Almost confirmed successfully launched more than one JL-2 (submarine-based ballistic missile).

 

[cir]

Six huge "firecrackers" were launched successively from the ocean......all hit targets.

 

[tumi101124]

oh..JL-2...
finally succeeded?

i used to work in an institute of military,and we were part of that project,before i left the JL-2 still got serious problem...
after years effort..i shall say congratulations!