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US 'red tape' dogged India Moon mission
BBC NEWS | South Asia | US 'red tape' dogged India Moon mission
Hidden behind the euphoria of the find is a less publicised tale of complex back room dealings between Indian and American space science teams.

Back in 2004, scientists from the two countries were eager to collaborate, but the Bureau of Export Control in the US did not share this enthusiasm. In fact it was seen by some on the Indian side as being singularly obstinate.

It is accused of not being willing to clear the paperwork that would allow sophisticated American-made instruments to be airlifted to Bangalore for the mission.

It is also accused of using "all the tricks in it is pockets" to scuttle the operation before then US President George W Bush reportedly intervened to make sure this did not happen.

It is important to remember that the Moon mission was planned and executed well before the Indo-US civilian nuclear deal was finalised in 2008, a historic moment prior to which there was much suspicion between the two countries.

Back in 2005, in initiating its collaboration with the Americans, the Indian Space Research Organisation (Isro) decided to forget the two sides' rocky past. India had been denied access to technology under US sanctions imposed after nuclear tests in 1974.

The quantity of water found was small, but could become a useful resource


Even today, many Indian space laboratories continue to languish on a dreaded US blacklist.

The $100m Chandrayaan project was an Indian mission with international partners. On board India used a guest instrument from Nasa, a mineral mapper.

This is a laser printer-sized, 9kg device that beamed images of the wet lunar landscape. Another Nasa instrument, a small radar called a MiniSAR, was also flown aboard the Indian mission.

Isro decided not to charge its guests for this 400,000km (248,548-mile) journey. The international instruments were all flown free to the Moon. The only expectation Delhi had in return for this agreement was that the scientific data collected from the guest instruments would be shared with Indian researchers. It is this visionary arrangement that brought India its water-on-the-Moon moment.

'Not acceptable'

Late in 2005, just a little before Mr Bush made his historic visit to India, space scientists from the two countries were unquestionably eager to collaborate.

But a spanner was thrown in the works by American conditions in the technology co-operation agreement that were not acceptable to India.

Delhi argued that it seemed as if the US was imposing tough conditions on India while at the same time accepting a free gift from it to fly US payloads to the Moon.

Talking in 2006, Isro chairman Madhavan Nair argued that the US move could "compromise" India's interests.

Even as President Bush flew to India, officials from both countries were working hard to hammer out acceptable texts for highly complex bilateral umbrella agreements - called the Technology Safeguards Agreement (TSA) and the Technology Assistance Agreement (TAA) for space co-operation.

Experts say that the end product of these talks was the "Chandrayaan-1" agreement, which is how the Bureau of Export Control finally gave Nasa permission to ship the instruments.

It is not much publicised outside Isro, but the fact is that India had to keep the designs of Chandrayaan open for a long time just to accommodate huge delays by American bureaucracy.

The Moon Mineralogy Mapper, or M3, one of the devices behind the water on the Moon findings - was literally the last of the 11 instruments to be accommodated on board the Chandrayaan mission.

'Hurdles'

This is not the first time that a high-profile Indo-US space dream has nearly died early because of what some in India see as the unbending attitude of US bureaucracy.

In 2006, India's dreams of launching a Moon mission in conjunction with America's Boeing Corporation were shattered soon after the deal was announced.

It was aborted not because Isro and Boeing were unwilling to become partners, but because of huge delays in getting export clearance from the US state department.

Indian experts argued that the agreement failed to materialise because of "huge delays and immense hurdles" thrown in their way by American bureaucracy in Washington.

The Americans, it was thought, were fearful that the deal could result in a diversion of dual-use technologies for military purposes.

"The [paperwork] took so long that the whole project itself was over by the time clearances came through," Dr Nair said.

Boeing and Isro finally called it quits on their tentative joint venture in late 2006.


Even today it still seems that the Americans want to co-operate with India only on certain science-based satellite missions.

They seem to be happy that co-operation takes place in not-for-profit science related projects, but profit-making commercial ventures in the lucrative space market are still a no-no. Indian experts hope that the recent success of the Moon water mission may alter this approach by Washington and lead to a robust Indo-American planetary exploration partnership that is free from the shackles of ever-suspicious civil servants.
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Suddenly Russian & Europeans look much better as partners for space projects.


ISRO allowed NASA instruments to get a free ride to Moon with Chandrayaan. water was discovered, game-changing discovery. everyone hailed the space cooperation.


India did a favour to US by carrying instruments but US Govt would impose more and more conditions on how Indian Scientists should integrate US Instruments to Chandrayaan. Report also says Chandrayaan design was not freezed early just because US Govt did not clear the transfer of instruments.

Even though Chandrayaan agreement was signed many years. only recently did US allow Indian rockets to launch Satellites with US made components. amazing pace of progress in Cooperation. It also explains why ISRO always shys away from calling Cartosat-2 as a spy/military Satellite.

There is no way India can attempt complex space projects with US at this level of suspicion and redtape. I never knew ISRO-Boeing attempted a lunar project and it was failed due to delays. startling revelations by pallav indeed.

India did a good thing by taking russian assistance for manned mission and joint venture for Chandrayaan-2.
 

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Indigenous cryogenic engine ready for take-off
Shubhadeep Choudhury
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Bangalore, October 2
Close on the heels of display of its military might by China on the 60th anniversary of the People’s Republic, India quietly achieved something that will have a far-reaching impact on the country’s defence capabilities.

T K Alex, director of the ISRO Satellite Centre at Bangalore, told the TNS today that an indigenous cryogenic engine had been successfully developed. “The cryogenic engine is ready. It has already reached the space port at Sriharikota (from Mahendragiri in Tamil Nadu)”, he said.

The advance would give India the ability to build the dreaded intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs). This led the US to prevent Russia from supplying cryogenic technology to India. India’s contract with Russia for buying cryogenic engines came under fire from the US which said it was a violation of the Missile Technology Control Regime to which Russia is a signatory. Eventually, the Russian Federation supplied a limited number of engines to India without the transfer of critical technologies.

Only a few countries, including the US, Russia and France, have the necessary knowhow to build cryogenic engines fuelled by liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen.

In December last year, ISRO had successfully conducted the flight acceptance hot test of the indigenous cryogenic engine at its Liquid Propulsion Systems Centre at Mahendragiri.

The first indigenous cryogenic engine will be used in the GSLV (Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle) rocket that is slated to put the experimental communication satellite GSAT-4 in the orbit. “The launch will take place sometime in coming December”, Alex said.

Besides the use of the indigenous cryogenic engine, the GSAT-4 launch would also be unique in many other ways. “For instance, we shall be using the electric propulsion technology for the first time to give the geostationary satellites a longer life span”, he said.

“GSAT-4 itself is not designed to have a long life. But once the technology, known as plasma thrusters, is successfully tested, it will be used in future satellites to give them an enhanced life span”, Alex said.

Electric propulsion technology would be used for sustenance of a satellite for the initial two to three years. “During this period the solar panels (for generating electricity from solar energy) work very well. Afterwards the satellite will switch over to the chemical propulsion mode”, said Alex.

Weighing around two tonnes, GSAT-4 will carry a multi-beam Ka-band bent pipe and regenerative transponder and navigation payload in C, L1 and L5 bands. The satellite reportedly can guide civil and military aircraft.
 

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Indigenous cryogenic engine reached the space port at Sriharikota, ready for take-off.

Shubhadeep Choudhury,Tribune News Service Bangalore, October 2

Bangalore, October 2
Close on the heels of display of its military might by China on the 60th anniversary of the People’s Republic, India quietly achieved something that will have a far-reaching impact on the country’s defence capabilities.

T K Alex, director of the ISRO Satellite Centre at Bangalore, told the TNS today that an indigenous cryogenic engine had been successfully developed. “The cryogenic engine is ready. It has already reached the space port at Sriharikota (from Mahendragiri in Tamil Nadu)”, he said.

The advance would give India the ability to build the dreaded intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs). This led the US to prevent Russia from supplying cryogenic technology to India. India’s contract with Russia for buying cryogenic engines came under fire from the US which said it was a violation of the Missile Technology Control Regime to which Russia is a signatory. Eventually, the Russian Federation supplied a limited number of engines to India without the transfer of critical technologies.

Only a few countries, including the US, Russia and France, have the necessary knowhow to build cryogenic engines fuelled by liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen.

In December last year, ISRO had successfully conducted the flight acceptance hot test of the indigenous cryogenic engine at its Liquid Propulsion Systems Centre at Mahendragiri.

The first indigenous cryogenic engine will be used in the GSLV (Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle) rocket that is slated to put the experimental communication satellite GSAT-4 in the orbit. “The launch will take place sometime in coming December”, Alex said.

Besides the use of the indigenous cryogenic engine, the GSAT-4 launch would also be unique in many other ways. “For instance, we shall be using the electric propulsion technology for the first time to give the geostationary satellites a longer life span”, he said.

“GSAT-4 itself is not designed to have a long life. But once the technology, known as plasma thrusters, is successfully tested, it will be used in future satellites to give them an enhanced life span”, Alex said.

Electric propulsion technology would be used for sustenance of a satellite for the initial two to three years. “During this period the solar panels (for generating electricity from solar energy) work very well. Afterwards the satellite will switch over to the chemical propulsion mode”, said Alex.

Weighing around two tonnes, GSAT-4 will carry a multi-beam Ka-band bent pipe and regenerative transponder and navigation payload in C, L1 and L5 bands. The satellite reportedly can guide civil and military aircraft.
 

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I was watching space documentaries about various things in Universe. I simply wonder why Telescopes don't get similar public attention like inter-planetary space exploration.

I mean Telescopes can see places so far away so clearly that Mankind can never hope to reach for thousands of years even if consider pace of technological developments and if even we escape catastrophic cataclysmic events. if we are able still get information from such a large distances then Telescopes should be given similar importance/priority as any Mars or Moon mission or even manned missions.

on one hand there are Space probes searching for water and other life bearing signs in Solar System. on the other hand ground-based and space based telescopes have discovered hundreds of exoplanets, planets of solar systems so many light years away that cannot even be observed directly, only inferred through behaviour of stars.

at current technologies it would take 70000 years to send a probe to the nearest star.

There are already dedicated exoplanet hunting Satellites in space. NASA is planning to launch more powerful telescopes in space before 2020 which could provide information about the planets climate and physical characteristics.

except for Hubble which provided the best visible light images of deep universe, other telescopes didn't receive so much enthusiasm from public.

Hubbles Telescope visible light frequencies cannot see beyind dust & gas. We cannot see much of our own Galaxy because of all the dust and gas.

but telescopes at other frequencies like Infra-red, radio, X-ray, gamma-ray, UV can detect things far away much clearer.

for example the Italian Agile Satellite launched by PSLV can detect gamma-ray bursts which occur billions of light years away.

Milky way is said to be massive galaxy but distance from earth to milkways centre is just about 26,000 Light years. So one can imagine detecting anything from billions of light years.

IMO these telescopes giving massive amounts of data about deep universe should be treated as important as Chandrayaan or Apollo.

Quasars, Pulsars, Black holes, Supenovaes does sound far more interesting than exploring moon to find water or minerals.


Crab Nebula image taken by Hanle observatory, Ladakh.
 

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Great INFO shared by Mr Ironman.Thank u.Thanx to LETHAL FORCE AND aBHI for their input too.
 

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ISRO set to shed civilian clothes

BANGALORE: The Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) will be providing technical support to the Indian Air force and ground forces in a major offensive against Naxalites in the jungles of Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand and West Bengal, which the Union Home Ministry will launch after the upcoming Maharastra polls.


Union Home Secretary G K Pillai told Express that the various anti-Naxal forces on the ground would be supported by the IAF and ISRO to fine-tune the attacks on Naxal hideouts, which are deep within the dense jungles.

This will be the first time that the space agency will be using its technology for nonpeaceful operations officially.

ISRO will provide muchneeded images of the ground using the radar-imaging satellite (RISAT-2), which the space agency launched in April this year.

The spy satellite carries the Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) payload, which can capture images roundthe- clock and in all weather conditions.

The space agency has always maintained that its satellites are only for peaceful applications and has in the past dismissed allegations that it has a spy satellite, claiming that the RISAT- 2 is only for disaster management, managing cyclones, floods, and agriculture- related activities.

The IAF has in a way already conveyed its willingness to take part in the anti- Naxal operations that will begin at the end of October, when it asked permission from the Defence Ministry to open re tal iat ory f ire against Naxals who target IAF planes. IAF Chief Air Chief Marshal P V Naik has made it clear that the IAF would require foolproof intelligence before using air power against the Naxals, because of the risk that civilians on the ground could be hit.
It is here that the ground forces and the IAF would need the services of RISAT-2, as it can provide images of even the thick jungles, enabling them to carry out surgical strikes on the ground.

The images provided by the satellites will be processed by the National Technology Research Organisation.
 

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ISRO to launch YOUTHSAT

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TIRUPATI: In a bid to inculcate interest in space-related activities among the younger generation, Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) will soon launch a micro satellite named ‘YOUTHSAT’.

The satellite is being developed with the participation of youth from universities in India and abroad and hence will be more of a youth-oriented facility.

Addressing the 13th Convocation of Sri Padmavathi Mahila Viswa Vidyalayam (SPMVV) here on Wednesday, Dr. Nair said that it would also provide opportunities for realisation of future payloads for scientific experiments. He also laid emphasis on the opportunities provided to Indian student community to develop, integrate, test and operate nano-satellites, many of which were currently being developed at various universities and institutes.

Dr. Nair also explained that EDUSAT, the exclusive satellite meant for providing connectivity to schools, colleges and higher levels of education and also to support non-formal education, was being effectively utilised by IGNOU, UGC, NCERT, IITs, IETE and State education departments and universities, forming over 35,000 virtual classrooms in the country. Besides, INSAT-based telemedicine network connected 57 super specialty hospitals in cities and 307 hospitals in rural areas, including the hitherto-inaccessible pockets of Jammu & Kashmir, North-East and Andaman & Nicobar Islands. He gave a clarion call to the students to make the most of every opportunity coming their way in scripting their own success stories.

Vice-Chancellor G. Sarojamma, in her capacity as the acting Chancellor, conferred honorary doctorates on Lok Sabha Speaker Meira Kumar (in absentia), a Member of Legislative Council as well as the university’s former Vice-Chancellor Kola Rajyalakshmi and Chairperson of Infosys Foundation Sudha Murthy.

Ph.D. degrees were announced to 34 science and 39 social sciences/humanities candidates, while gold medals in sciences and humanities were presented to 34 and 40 candidates respectively.

Prof.Sarojamma later presented the annual report, while the Registrar E.Manju Vani proposed a vote of thanks.
 

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Request to all posters:

Can we please post the chandrayaan related news in chandrayaan 1 thread also
 

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TIRUPATI: In a bid to inculcate interest in space-related activities among the younger generation, Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) will soon launch a micro satellite named ‘YOUTHSAT’.

The satellite is being developed with the participation of youth from universities in India and abroad and hence will be more of a youth-oriented facility.

Addressing the 13th Convocation of Sri Padmavathi Mahila Viswa Vidyalayam (SPMVV) here on Wednesday, Dr. Nair said that it would also provide opportunities for realisation of future payloads for scientific experiments. He also laid emphasis on the opportunities provided to Indian student community to develop, integrate, test and operate nano-satellites, many of which were currently being developed at various universities and institutes.

Dr. Nair also explained that EDUSAT, the exclusive satellite meant for providing connectivity to schools, colleges and higher levels of education and also to support non-formal education, was being effectively utilised by IGNOU, UGC, NCERT, IITs, IETE and State education departments and universities, forming over 35,000 virtual classrooms in the country. Besides, INSAT-based telemedicine network connected 57 super specialty hospitals in cities and 307 hospitals in rural areas, including the hitherto-inaccessible pockets of Jammu & Kashmir, North-East and Andaman & Nicobar Islands. He gave a clarion call to the students to make the most of every opportunity coming their way in scripting their own success stories.

Vice-Chancellor G. Sarojamma, in her capacity as the acting Chancellor, conferred honorary doctorates on Lok Sabha Speaker Meira Kumar (in absentia), a Member of Legislative Council as well as the university’s former Vice-Chancellor Kola Rajyalakshmi and Chairperson of Infosys Foundation Sudha Murthy.

Ph.D. degrees were announced to 34 science and 39 social sciences/humanities candidates, while gold medals in sciences and humanities were presented to 34 and 40 candidates respectively.

Prof.Sarojamma later presented the annual report, while the Registrar E.Manju Vani proposed a vote of thanks.
ISRO does provide gr8 opportunity. Many other Universities are developing like nanosatellites while Indian Universities will have luxury to get as much as 100 kg payload for piggybacks may be for free. ISRO won't launch 1500kg everytime on PSLV, So there will be always space for piggyback Satellites.
 

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ISRO is looking to buy a Russian spacecraft for sending space tourists

ISRO wants to buy non-reusable Soyuz TMA spacecraft and sell two of its three seats to fare-paying passengers. The value of the potential deal was not revealed. “ISRO has applied for acquiring a spaceship for space tourists,” said Russian space agency Roskosmos spokesman Alexei Krasnov, who added that the deal would be purely commercial and that the Soyuz would probably be piloted by a Russian cosmonaut.

Roskosmos currently charges about $35 million for a ten day tourist flight to the International Space Station. Moscow and New Delhi signed a space agreement last year, under which Russia will help ISRO in training Indian astronauts and provide technical backup enabling India to build its own manned spacecraft. ISRO already has launch vehicles under development which could carry the Soyuz craft into orbit.

ISRO is looking to buy a Russian spacecraft for sending space tourists IDRW.ORG
 

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Madhavan Nair takes over as President of IAA

Bangalore, Oct 12 (PTI) G Madhavan Nair, Chairman of the Indian Space Research Organisation, has been appointed President of the International Academy of Astronautics (IAA).

The decision to elevate Nair, who was serving as Vice-President of Scientific Activities of the IAA for the last four years, was taken yesterday during its General Assembly meeting in Daejeon, South Korea, an ISRO statement said.

The Paris-headquartered IAA is an independent organisation of distinguished individuals elected by their peers for outstanding contributions to astronautics and the exploration of space, it said.

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First Image from Oceansat-2.
Oceansat-2 payloads providing good images.

Hindu : Chennai, October 12, 2009:-

All the three payloads on board India’s Oceansat-2 have been switched on and are providing good quality images of India and oceans around the world, according to the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO).





The payloads are the ocean colour monitor, scatterometer, and radio occultation sounder for atomospheric studies (ROSA).

The ocean colour monitor has a camera that provides information on chlorophyll concentration in the seas and helps in locating schools of fish where the fishermen can go and fish. The scatterometer is a microwave sensor that measures the velocity of winds and their direction over the seas, and is useful in monitoring the movement of polar sea-ice. ROSA measures parameters relating to lower atmosphere and ionosphere.

An ISRO press release said the data provided by the payloads also helped in monitoring the turbidity and suspended sediments in the seas and facilitated meteorological studies.

The satellite collects data over the entire globe once in two days. “All the instruments on board Oceansat-2 are working satisfactorily,” the statement added.
 

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Dr G Madhavan Nair takes over as the President of the International Academy of Astronautics (IAA)
Dr G Madhavan Nair, Chairman,
Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) took over as the President of the International Academy of Astronautics (IAA) on October 11, 2009 during the General Assembly of the IAA in Daejeon, South Korea. Dr Madhavan Nair was the Vice-President of Scientific Activities of the IAA during the last four years.
The International Academy of Astronautics (IAA) with its headquarters at Paris, France is an independent organisation of distinguished individuals elected by their peers for their outstanding contributions to astronautics and the exploration of space. The IAA organises conferences and collaborates with other partner societies. Although the IAA has many connections to other similar organisations, it is distinctive as the only international academy of elected members in broad area of astronautics and space. IAA membership consists of individuals who have distinguished themselves in one of the fields of astronautics or one of the branches of science of fundamental importance for the exploration of space. IAA membership today totals about 1200 members from 85 countries. The IAA is an honorary society with an action agenda. The Academy has a strong scientific program this year with about 16 stand-alone conferences around the world.
The Academy was founded in 1960 by the leaders among the early space pioneers and had as Presidents: Theodor von Karman, Frank Malina, Stark Draper, George E. Mueller, Michael Yarymovych and Edward Stone. The election of Dr Madhavan Nair to the post of President of IAA is significant as he is the first Indian expert in space to become President of IAA.
Dr. G. Madhavan Nair is currently Chairman of Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO), and Secretary, Department of Space of Government of India. He is also the President of Astronautical Society of India (ASI). He started his career as Avionics Project Manager in the first Indian launch vehicle project. He was responsible for design, development and operationalisation of Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV) the work-horse launch vehicle of India. He held various responsibilities in ISRO including Director of Vikram Sarabhai Space Centre (largest Centre of ISRO) and Director of Liquid Propulsion System Centre. He became Chairman, ISRO in 2003, and has 25 successful missions so far during his tenure. He operationalised multiple satellite launches using PSLV. His most significant contribution is the successful launch of India's first mission to the Moon, the Chandrayaan-1, which has earned tremendous international acclaim. He is conferred with 'Padma Bhushan' in 1998 and 'Padma Vibhushan' in 2009 by the Government of India. He was awarded honorary Degrees of Doctor of Philosophy/Doctor of Science by 16 Universities in India.



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Oceansat-2 payloads are providing good quality data
All the three payloads on-board the Oceansat-2, namely

  • Ocean Colour Monitor,
  • Scatterometer,
  • Radio Occultation Sounder for Atmospheric Studies,
have been successfully turned on providing good quality data. It may be recalled that the Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV-C14) launched from Satish Dhawan Space Centre SHAR, Sriharikota on September 23, 2009 placed India's Oceansat-2 and other six nano satellites for international customers in the desired orbit. All the instruments onboard Oceansat-2 are working satisfactorily.
The Ocean Colour Monitor (OCM), a multi-spectral imaging radiometer, provides information on chlorophyll concentration, and helps locating Potential Fisheries Zones. The Scatterometer, an active microwave sensor, facilitates retrieval of sea-surface wind speed and direction, and monitoring polar sea-ice. The Radio Occultation Sounder measures the parameters pertaining to lower atmosphere and ionosphere.
The data provided by the different sensors on-board Oceansat -2, will also facilitate monitoring of turbidity and suspended sediments, sea-state and sea-surface winds, and meteorological/climatological studies. The satellite collects data over the entire globe once in two days.




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