Indian Navy puts out RFI for next-gen missile vessel

[bengalraider]

We can easily build multiple small missile boats like these in our smaller drydocks. Also they're cheap, a kamorta costs a ninth of what a Kolkata does and gets built in half the time.

 

[Bheeshma]

Small missile boats have limited range and don't have the endurance required. Unlike Kamorta which has composite super structure and has raft mounted turbines for ASW quietening the new corvette can simply use the Kirloskar marine or kaveri marine turbine and have Brahmos-M instead of RBU-6000.

 

[bengalraider]

Awesome video of the KALIBIR launches by the RuN against ISIS earlier this year, reminds you of what missile boats are capable of in today's era.
That said the new Russian 22160 class corvette is also probably going to be a contender for this order.with 24 Shtil-1 SAMs and 8 KALIBIRs she should be almost as heavily armed as a full size frigate while displacing only half the weight.We could look at creating a customised version of the same for the IN, maybe one with 4 Nirbahy's and 8 BRAHMOS alongwith 24 barak 1.

 

[bengalraider]

The story of how the IN missile boat force was first born. From the Russia India report.

Admiral SergeiGorshkov was arguably the greatest naval strategist of the 20th century. In his book, ‘The Sea Power of the State’, the man who transformed the Russian Navy into a global force, wrote: “Naval warfare aimed directly against land targets will play an ever greater part in any future major conflict.”

On the night of October 5, four Russian missile boats with a displacement of a mere 1000 tons each started raining down cruise missiles down the throats of ISIS and US-backed terror groups. Flying at treetop level over a distance of 2600 km through Iran and Iraq, and avoiding populated areas, the missiles slammed into terrorist hideouts without warning.

The precision strikes left the US and its allies shocked, rattled and envious. Many observers couldn’t begin to fathom how these tiny ships could be so devastating.

Some showed grudging respect. According to Bryan Clark, a naval analyst with the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments in Washington, the Russian corvettes armed with the accurate Kalibr provide much more effective land-attack lethality than what the US Navy is pursuing.

He was referring to the US Navy’s 3,000 ton Littoral Combat Ships that carry small, short-range missiles. “We have a new class of ships that we’re not equipping with anything that’s like this missile,” Clark told Defense News. “The Navy should feel embarrassed that they let this happen.”

Small wonder

The success in the Syrian war is nothing new for Russian missile boats. These vessels were star performers during the 1967 Arab Israeli War and the 1971 India Pakistan War. In the official history of the Indian Navy, Transition to Triumph, Vice Admiral G.M. Hiranandaniwrites:

“In June 1967, during the six-day Arab Israeli War, an Egyptian missile boat sank an Israeli frigate, the Eilath, at a range well beyond the frigate’s own guns. Navies all over the world woke up with a start to the effectiveness of this new Russian weapon – the surface to surface, anti ship, homing missile – which enabled a small boat to sink a ship several times its size within a matter of minutes. At one stroke, this new weapon altered the centuries old concept of prolonged gun battles between opposing warships.”

With a displacement of 200 tons, the missile boats were tiny and extremely thin skinned, but they had powerful engines that could propel them to a blistering 34 knots. Plus, the boat was hard to spot because of its small radar cross section.

Hirandani explains: “Its sophisticated radar was more advanced than any other known radar – it enabled the missile boat, with its low radar reflectivity, to detect a larger ship well before the latter was even aware of its presence, to fire its missiles and to speed away faster than any other ship. The Russian naval architects had deliberately designed these characteristics so as to give the small boats this advantage against much larger American naval ships attempting to attack the Russian coast.”

From UK to Russia

The Indian Navy, which had until then relied on Britain for its ships and weaponry, now started looking at Russian naval equipment. The Egyptian strike had clearly got the naval brass’ attention. But there was another reason for India wanting these small vessels.

In the 1965 India Pakistan War, the tiny Pakistan Navy had conducted a sneak attack on the city of Dwarka on the Gujarat coast. Although there were no casualties and only a solitary cow was killed, it left the Indian Navy seething because it couldn’t respond with a fitting counter attack.

India’s political leadership had ordered the navy not to launch offensive operations north of Porbandar because of Indonesia’s aggressive postures against India. Jakarta had not only declared support for fellow Muslim nation Pakistan, but more worryingly it was vocal about its intentions to annex the Andaman & Nicobar Islands which lie close to South East Asian waters.

The shells lobbed at Dwarka got the navy brass thinking of a possible Pakistani attack on Mumbai in a future conflict. In his book ‘We Dared: Maritime Operations in the 1971 Indo-Pak War’, Vice-Admiral S.N. Kohli writes: “Intelligence had suggested the Pakistan Navy was considering the acquisition of missile fitted frigates. In order to forestall the dangers of a missile attack by Pakistan on Mumbai, I had, on one of my visits to Russia, enquired from Admiral Sergei Gorshkov whether they had a mobile missile battery which could be deployed for the defence of Mumbai. He replied in the negative. He was later able to persuade the Indian Navy that for the defence of Mumbai and other major ports, the small Osa class of missile boats would be ideal. Their mere presence would prove a great deterrent to the enemy embarking on an attack.”

Admiral Gorshkov’s advice was simple and effective. In January 1969, an Indian delegation visited Moscow and the Russian naval base in the Caspian Sea, where they went out to sea in a missile boat. Vice-Admiral Nilakanta Krishnan writes in his book ‘No Way But Surrender’ that the acquisition of attack missile boats had become a “personal obsession” for him. The delegation signed an agreement for the acquisition of a squadron of eight boats armed with Styx missiles.

The Osa boats arrived under complete secrecy in 1970. They were based in Mumbai while crew training and ship overhaul facilities were to be located in Visakhapatnam. Admiral Hiranandani writes: “By this time, the Russian Navy had come to realise the Indians were diligent learners and professionally far more confident than the navies they had earlier helped to train. The crews...were deputed to Russia for just six weeks to take over the ships and sail them back to India. The Russians were impressed with their efficiency and professional knowledge, considering that they had neither received any training in Vladivostok nor had adequate training facilities been set up in Visakhapatnam.”

Russian boats, Indian ingenuity

Like Admirals Kohli and Krishnan, Admiral Sardarilal Mathradas Nanda, India’s navy chief in 1971, had been smarting under the step motherly treatment shown towards the navy by the political leadership. He was determined the Indian Navy wouldn’t sit out the next war.

A few weeks before the war started, he called his directors of naval operations and naval intelligence, and said he had obtained clearance for an attack on Karachi. In his autobiography, ‘The Man Who Bombed Karachi’, Nanda writes: “Everybody looked at me and said Karachi is a very heavily defended port. They've got six inch guns, while our guns are only four inch. We will be well within their range before they come into our range. So I said we have these Russian-made Osa class missile boats with Styx missiles.”

The commanders weren’t very keen. They said the boats did not have the range to reach Karachi and return. Secondly, though the Styx was highly accurate, they were anti-ship missiles and not designed to attack shore targets. Some naval officers – probably of the Gandhian mould – objected on the grounds that if Indian missiles hit Karachi, then there would be an international uproar over civilian casualties.

Admiral Nanda threw all such objections into the sea. Like all great ideas, his was simple too. To overcome their short range, he towed the boats from their base in Mumbai to Diu in Gujarat, which was a short distance from the target.

On the night of December 4, 1971, the missile boats carried out their first attack on Karachi. However, one of the vessels reported seeing a Pakistani aircraft and radioed this wrong information to the Indian flotilla. Worse, the captain of this missile boat withdrew from the designated area without the permission of the flotilla commander, thereby causing considerable confusion.

Only a couple of missiles were launched towards Karachi. Despite their hasty withdrawal the boats sank two Pakistani warships and crippled a third. They also destroyed a Pakistani merchant vessel bringing ammunition from an American depot in Saigon. Had the missile boats released all their missiles, the destruction could have been massive.

The Indian Navy launched a second attack on Karachi on the night of December 8. This time, it lost one ship but the rest rained hell on Karachi, setting fire to the tanker farms and lighting up the entire night sky.

Admiral Nanda made good on his promise that he would make the “world’s biggest bonfire” – Karachi burned for a week.

Small is big now

Small missile boats, which had until now not figured in the calculations of most militaries, are likely to be a game changer. A number of countries possess such vessels in good numbers, and the Russian Navy’s clinical strikes will make them a highly sought after weapons delivery platform. For, besides being potent, they offer great bang for your rials, pesos, dinars, yuans or rupees.

Swarm attacks by Iranian and Chinese vessels, for instance, could be a nightmare for thin-skinned US Navy warships forward deployed near the Persian Gulf or the South China Sea. They also dramatically increase the vulnerability of America’s floating cities – its nuclear powered aircraft carriers with more than 100 aircraft and 6000 sailors aboard.

Russia has supplied anti-ship and land attack missiles to a number of countries including India, Vietnam, Algeria and more ominously Iran and China. The success of the Kalibr (export version Klub) will result in the export of even more potent versions of the missile.

There are few known defences against this class of missile. The Kalibr, for instance, makes a supersonic sprint towards its target during the last few kilometres, making interception a waste of effort and bullets.

Again, the Oniks missile (export version Yakhont) is fired in groups that act like a wolf pack. When launched, the missiles wait until the last one is out of the launch tubes and then line up, just like a wolf pack, and begin to home in on their prey. Swapping information, the pack decides which missile attacks which target and how.

Although US carriers are heavily defended, the beauty of a Kalibr or an Oniks is that even if they don’t completely destroy a large vessel, a single hit will ensure enough damage to put the ship out of commission for months.

The success of Russia’s Caspian Flotilla will undoubtedly cause changes in military doctrine worldwide and in the way warships are built, armed and deployed. Clearly, small is the new buzzword.

 

[bengalraider]

One more thing each Kora cost us only 36$million each, that's mighty cheap for something carrying 16 Kh-35s.
We should look at building many more of these powerful workhorses.

 

[Prashant12]

Future missile corvette of Indian Navy

DRDO's Products Range Official Video, DRDO Patterns, DRDO's Development

 

[Armand2REP]

We can easily build multiple small missile boats like these in our smaller drydocks. Also they're cheap, a kamorta costs a ninth of what a Kolkata does and gets built in half the time.

I think India should be focused on Blue Water capabilities. Porki Navy is no threat to IN when a simple airstrike can sink their hand-me down rust buckets. China has fallen into the trap of missile boats to counter an enemy that will never enter their range and be sunk before they ever see a target to launch at.

 

[Bleh]

Boost for desi Next-gen Missile Boats as delayed import funds may go to them post Corona crisis as stimulus.

After the RFI Indian Navy issued RFP for 6 Next Generation Missile Vessels worth $2 Billion back in July, 2019. No updates in almost a year.

Small missile boats have limited range and don't have the endurance required. Unlike Kamorta which has composite super structure and has raft mounted turbines for ASW quietening the new corvette can simply use the Kirloskar marine or kaveri marine turbine and have Brahmos-M instead of RBU-6000.

RFI requires 5000km range, but the Saryu Class OPV (2250 tons) has range of 12000km and its successor Sachi Class (1500 ton) has 11000 km range. Much more than both Kamorta & Shiwalik class.

Given the fact that Dhanush (naval Prithvi) was test-fired from older Sukanya Class OPV, they can fit upto a dozen VLS on new small Sachi Class. The NGMVs are to be armed with CIWS, gun, SRSAM, anti-ship or land attack missiles like Brahmos or Nirbhay and possibly ASW rockets.

Costing less than 1/10th of Kolkata Class she can easily cover whole Arabian sea and Bay of Bengal. Will also boost India's first private sector warship building, debt-ridden Reliance got showcaused in Feb.

Also, what's this part? Can it be replaced by VLS?

 

[Gautam Sarkar]

Boost for desi Next-gen Missile Boats as delayed import funds may go to them post Corona crisis as stimulus.

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After the RFI Indian Navy issued RFP for 6 Next Generation Missile Vessels worth $2 Billion back in July, 2019. No updates in almost a year.



RFI requires 5000km range, but the Saryu Class OPV (2250 tons) has range of 12000km and its successor Sachi Class (1500 ton) has 11000 km range. Much more than both Kamorta & Shiwalik class.

Given the fact that Dhanush (naval Prithvi) was test-fired from older Sukanya Class OPV, they can fit upto a dozen VLS on new small Sachi Class. The NGMVs are to be armed with CIWS, gun, SRSAM, anti-ship or land attack missiles like Brahmos or Nirbhay and possibly ASW rockets.

Costing less than 1/10th of Kolkata Class she can easily cover whole Arabian sea and Bay of Bengal. Will also boost India's first private sector warship building, debt-ridden Reliance got showcaused in Feb.
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Also, what's this part? Can it be replaced by VLS?
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That is a helo hangar. It cannot be replaced by a VLS.

 

[Bleh]

That is a helo hangar. It cannot be replaced by a VLS.

Will missile boats have helos? If not, then?

 

[Gautam Sarkar]

Will missile boats have helos? If not, then?

It will have provisions for helos. Will they actively take helos on deployment depends on the mission.

There is still plenty of space left on the boat for missiles. The fore deck can still carry VLS. The mid ship just ahead of the helo hangar can carry inclined launchers. Also the hangar should be capable of housing one medium lift helo, so the front end of the structure might as well carry missiles.

 

[Bajirao]

Will missile boats have helos? If not, then?

Without asw helicopter, ships or, boats will be at high risk from submarines.....pakisthan navy wants to make their navy totally submarine centric and as for china you knows about that...

 

[Bajirao]

Awesome video of the KALIBIR launches by the RuN against ISIS earlier this year, reminds you of what missile boats are capable of in today's era.
That said the new Russian 22160 class corvette is also probably going to be a contender for this order.with 24 Shtil-1 SAMs and 8 KALIBIRs she should be almost as heavily armed as a full size frigate while displacing only half the weight.We could look at creating a customised version of the same for the IN, maybe one with 4 Nirbahy's and 8 BRAHMOS alongwith 24 barak 1.

What is the purpose,when we can lunch more missile from land which can reach every corner of pakisthan with just a wheeled luncher.....russia had some treaty restriction for using land based medium and intermideate range missiles

 

[arkos]

Hope the deal goes to a private shipyard like L&T or ABG. Govt. Shipyards are overburdened with orders. Hope some sense prevails.

 

[Bleh]

Without asw helicopter, ships or, boats will be at high risk from submarines.....pakisthan navy wants to make their navy totally submarine centric and as for china you knows about that...

Helos are for destroyer and Frigates and Corvettes.
At 1500t hese things are too small to operate independently... These are for swarm tactics all over our two seas, stealthier than any capital warship with RCS of a small fishing trawler. Maybe one in the group can have a ASW helicopter. ASW rockets and towed array sonar are cheaper option.

In near future India is supposed to induct a number of Mine Countermeasure Vessels and Next Generation Missile Corvette too. While searching & destroying them can be challenging, subs are not too difficult to defend yourself from with proper sensor support.