Indian Ballistic Missile Defense System
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if we can develop HELINA a helicopter launched NAG, why is it difficult to make a man portable version????
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then why they still havent started the man portable version ?
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there is no incentive too ,when there are no kickbacks.
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LF, the weight is a big factor. the whole "javelin" comes to about 20+ kilo weight whereas a "NAG" missile itself weighs 40+ kg. they need to make the missile sleeker and lighter. infact there was a plan to make the MANPAD version Nag. have no idea about the status. this is a 2005 news -
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2005/03/25/stories/2005032501700400.htm
however IMO, in the man portable version, the soldier has to make a visual confirmation of the target before firing the missile and hence the "range" will come down to less than 3000mtrs.
We should play this indigenous tune too much..If Javelin is available we should not reject it just because DRDO claims they cam make one (although they have not claimed )..
DRDO is known for making each and every product over weight which can not be tolerated with MANPADs..
BTW this is not so sensitive tech..There is no harm in buying something which we cant make..
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the nag mounted on a namica(modified bmp 2 carrier) is much better than a man portable javelin.the seeker is much better in nag, it has a greater manueverability and a heavier tandem warhead and a greater range(about 4 km) than the javelin. plus the helina comes with a lock on after launch feature where missile is launched in the general direction of the target and it can be manuevered to hit the target by the controller in the helicopter via a data link, it also has an extended range of 10 km.
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One exception I would say to this is in our ASTRA program.
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there is certainly harm in buying something which can be made indigeniously by drdo.no one knows how many more eum,cismoa like deals we have to sign before getting the javelin(which would definately come as an inferior product than the ones used by the us troops).plus uncle sam may even provide the jaming codes of these atgm to pakistan as part of their "multi billion dollar non military aid " .the IA has brought 12 weapon locating radars from raytheon in 2001 and is still suffering from the hastily concluded deals due to lack of maintainance of these sensitive radars so much so that they have ordered 28 wlr's from bel(without the imported label!!!).
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We should also think about KORNET which also has better range.
No doubt NAG is more powerful than Javelin..But they cant be taken everywhere..they dont have the advantage of being portable..Javelin can be carried by a soldier...
Bottomline is that you dont always need a superior, sometimes more effective weapon is the need of the time...
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old news but a good news in tht
V.K. Saraswat, Scientific Adviser to the Defence Minister, said the AAD interceptor "is not one of the existing missiles," hinting that it has been newly developed.
The target "is a modified missile" and the interception would take place in endo-atmosphere. But the interception would be at a high altitude in the endo-atmosphere. While the endo-atmosphere is 50 km and below, the exo-atmosphere is above 50 km. Rains had led to the test being postponed from July to August.
http://www.hindu.com/2010/07/11/stories/2010071163301000.htm
V.K. Saraswat, Scientific Adviser to the Defence Minister, said the AAD interceptor "is not one of the existing missiles," hinting that it has been newly developed.
The target "is a modified missile" and the interception would take place in endo-atmosphere. But the interception would be at a high altitude in the endo-atmosphere. While the endo-atmosphere is 50 km and below, the exo-atmosphere is above 50 km. Rains had led to the test being postponed from July to August.
http://www.hindu.com/2010/07/11/stories/2010071163301000.htm
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India to test Interceptor missile in August
As part of efforts to build a ballistic missile defence shield
CHENNAI: India will launch in early August an interceptor called Advanced Air Defence (AAD) missile to shoot down an incoming "enemy missile" as part of its efforts to build a credible ballistic missile defence shield.
After the "enemy" missile takes off from its launch pad at the Integrated Test Range, (ITR) Balasore, Orisssa, the AAD missile will pounce upon it midway, lifting off from the Wheeler Island in the Bay of Bengal, about 60 km off Balasore.
The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has built both the missiles and will launch them. Preparations are progressing apace for the launches.
V.K. Saraswat, Scientific Adviser to the Defence Minister, said the AAD interceptor "is not one of the existing missiles," hinting that it has been newly developed.
The target "is a modified missile" and the interception would take place in endo-atmosphere. But the interception would be at a high altitude in the endo-atmosphere. While the endo-atmosphere is 50 km and below, the exo-atmosphere is above 50 km. Rains had led to the test being postponed from July to August.
Of the four interceptor missile tests so far, the first three were successful. The last one in March 2010 was a failure.
Dr. Saraswat, who is also Director-General, DRDO, said the test-flights of Astra, India's air-to-air missile on Tuesday and Wednesday were aimed at demonstrating its high manoeuvrability, and its control and guidance systems.
"The Astra is meant for destroying aerial targets. It is a gradual process of proving its control and guidance systems. Before we integrate the missile with an aircraft, we should prove all this. [However], we have flown the missile integrated with an aircraft and it was done in Pune," he said.
The missile was integrated with a Sukhoi-30 aircraft. But the tests on Tuesday and Wednesday took place from the ground at the ITR.
The Astra is about 3.6 metre long and weighs 160 kg.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=13148
As part of efforts to build a ballistic missile defence shield
CHENNAI: India will launch in early August an interceptor called Advanced Air Defence (AAD) missile to shoot down an incoming "enemy missile" as part of its efforts to build a credible ballistic missile defence shield.
After the "enemy" missile takes off from its launch pad at the Integrated Test Range, (ITR) Balasore, Orisssa, the AAD missile will pounce upon it midway, lifting off from the Wheeler Island in the Bay of Bengal, about 60 km off Balasore.
The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has built both the missiles and will launch them. Preparations are progressing apace for the launches.
V.K. Saraswat, Scientific Adviser to the Defence Minister, said the AAD interceptor "is not one of the existing missiles," hinting that it has been newly developed.
The target "is a modified missile" and the interception would take place in endo-atmosphere. But the interception would be at a high altitude in the endo-atmosphere. While the endo-atmosphere is 50 km and below, the exo-atmosphere is above 50 km. Rains had led to the test being postponed from July to August.
Of the four interceptor missile tests so far, the first three were successful. The last one in March 2010 was a failure.
Dr. Saraswat, who is also Director-General, DRDO, said the test-flights of Astra, India's air-to-air missile on Tuesday and Wednesday were aimed at demonstrating its high manoeuvrability, and its control and guidance systems.
"The Astra is meant for destroying aerial targets. It is a gradual process of proving its control and guidance systems. Before we integrate the missile with an aircraft, we should prove all this. [However], we have flown the missile integrated with an aircraft and it was done in Pune," he said.
The missile was integrated with a Sukhoi-30 aircraft. But the tests on Tuesday and Wednesday took place from the ground at the ITR.
The Astra is about 3.6 metre long and weighs 160 kg.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=13148
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India,US to ink huge military deal: report
[03:15 July 13 2010
US President Barack Obama's visit to New Delhi in November may secure $5 billion worth of arms sales to India, Russia's Vzglyad newspaper reported Monday.
The deal, if signed during Obama's visit, would make the US replace Russia as India's biggest arms supplier, the paper said, adding that the deal would also help India curb China's rise.
India's shortlist includes Patriot defense systems, Boeing mid-air refueling tankers and certain types of howitzers, and the total cost of the deal may exceed $10 billion, the paper added.
The report came a day after The Economic Times in New Delhi reported that talks are underway between Indian and US officials over a deal to sell 10 Boeing C-17 military transport aircraft to the Indian Air Force (IAF).
The talks focus on the price and onboard equipment of the T-tailed C-17 Globemaster-III, which has passed validation trials and meets the requirements of the IAF, the newspaper said.
According to an official Boeing statement, the C-17 can carry a maximum payload of 74,797 kilo-grams for 2,400 nautical miles (4,444.8 kilometers) without refueling, and 45,495 kilograms for 4,000 nautical miles (7,408 kilometers) without refueling, the paper added.
Wang Mingzhi, a military strategist at the PLA Air Force Command College, told the Global Times that those reported military deals reflect Washington and New Delhi's needs in the region.
"To assist the Afghan war and the fight against the Pakistani Taliban, the US has been trying to improve its presence in South Asia and the Indian Ocean," Wang said. "Those arms sales will improve ties between Washington and New Delhi, and, intentionally or not, will have the effect of containing China's influence in the region."
"For example, once India gets the C-17 transport aircraft, the mobility of its forces stationed along the border with China will be improved. Mobility includes transportation, lifting, landing and deployment," he added.
http://world.globaltimes.cn/asia-pacific/2010-07/550830.html
[03:15 July 13 2010
US President Barack Obama's visit to New Delhi in November may secure $5 billion worth of arms sales to India, Russia's Vzglyad newspaper reported Monday.
The deal, if signed during Obama's visit, would make the US replace Russia as India's biggest arms supplier, the paper said, adding that the deal would also help India curb China's rise.
India's shortlist includes Patriot defense systems, Boeing mid-air refueling tankers and certain types of howitzers, and the total cost of the deal may exceed $10 billion, the paper added.
The report came a day after The Economic Times in New Delhi reported that talks are underway between Indian and US officials over a deal to sell 10 Boeing C-17 military transport aircraft to the Indian Air Force (IAF).
The talks focus on the price and onboard equipment of the T-tailed C-17 Globemaster-III, which has passed validation trials and meets the requirements of the IAF, the newspaper said.
According to an official Boeing statement, the C-17 can carry a maximum payload of 74,797 kilo-grams for 2,400 nautical miles (4,444.8 kilometers) without refueling, and 45,495 kilograms for 4,000 nautical miles (7,408 kilometers) without refueling, the paper added.
Wang Mingzhi, a military strategist at the PLA Air Force Command College, told the Global Times that those reported military deals reflect Washington and New Delhi's needs in the region.
"To assist the Afghan war and the fight against the Pakistani Taliban, the US has been trying to improve its presence in South Asia and the Indian Ocean," Wang said. "Those arms sales will improve ties between Washington and New Delhi, and, intentionally or not, will have the effect of containing China's influence in the region."
"For example, once India gets the C-17 transport aircraft, the mobility of its forces stationed along the border with China will be improved. Mobility includes transportation, lifting, landing and deployment," he added.
http://world.globaltimes.cn/asia-pacific/2010-07/550830.html
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Mian Asad such news was already reported in the media watch Indian and other American equipment sell or offer to sell to India and it is not difficult to imagine what they will get radar too
P-8I India is first customer outside
F-16 IN block 70
F/A-18 EF
F-35
C-17 will be the largest user outside
P-8I India is first customer outside
F-16 IN block 70
F/A-18 EF
F-35
C-17 will be the largest user outside
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India Tests Indigenously Developed 'Astra' BVR Missile
Balasore (Orissa), July 6 For the first time, India today conducted the night trial of its indigenously developed beyond visual range (BVR) air-to-air missile 'Astra' in inclement weather. Defence sources said the sophisticated missile was test-fired from a launcher in launch pad number two of the Integrated Test Range complex at Chandipur, about 15km from here, at about 8.15 pm.
The single stage, solid fuelled 'Astra' missile was more advanced in its category than the contemporary BVR missiles and was capable of engaging and destroying highly manoeuvrable supersonic aerial targets, Defence Research Development Organisation sources said.
The 3.8m long missile, which has a diametre of 178mm, can carry a warhead containing explosives weighing 15 kg and can be fitted to any fighter aircraft. It was intended to be eventually integrated with IAF's Sukhoi-30 MKI, MiG-29, Mirage-2000, Jaguar and the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft, the sources said. — PTI
http://theasiandefence.blogspot.com/2010/07/india-tests-indigenously-developed.html
Balasore (Orissa), July 6 For the first time, India today conducted the night trial of its indigenously developed beyond visual range (BVR) air-to-air missile 'Astra' in inclement weather. Defence sources said the sophisticated missile was test-fired from a launcher in launch pad number two of the Integrated Test Range complex at Chandipur, about 15km from here, at about 8.15 pm.
The single stage, solid fuelled 'Astra' missile was more advanced in its category than the contemporary BVR missiles and was capable of engaging and destroying highly manoeuvrable supersonic aerial targets, Defence Research Development Organisation sources said.
The 3.8m long missile, which has a diametre of 178mm, can carry a warhead containing explosives weighing 15 kg and can be fitted to any fighter aircraft. It was intended to be eventually integrated with IAF's Sukhoi-30 MKI, MiG-29, Mirage-2000, Jaguar and the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft, the sources said. — PTI
http://theasiandefence.blogspot.com/2010/07/india-tests-indigenously-developed.html
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India evaluating Patriot ground-based air defence system
Farnborough: India is evaluating the advanced Patriot ground-based air defence system for its ballistic missile shield and the US has provided "classified" material to it on the weapon unit, which was successfully used during both Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom, Patriot's manufacturer Raytheon said today.
"A number of exchanges have taken place between the government of India and the US and information has been given to India at the classified level," Joseph Garret, Vice President of the company's Patriot Programmes told PTI.
Replying to questions, he said tests of the Patriot system, which has been procured by 12 countries, by India's Defence Research and Development Organisation and other agencies had been "highly successful".
On India developing its own missile defence shield, Garret said, "Patriot system gives a major boost to any country's defence capability. India may be developing its own system, but Patriot is a combat-proven weapon system."
Another senior official of Raytheon, a defence and aerospace major, said Washington and New Delhi have also discussed the issue of India-specific end-user accords.
"If the US government gives a go-ahead, Raytheon will step in," he said.
Since its production began in 1980, more than 170 Patriot fire units and over 9,000 have been delivered by the company.
The countries which have acquired the weapon system, were Germany, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the Netherlands, Japan, Israel, Taiwan, Greece, Spain, South Korea and the UAE.
The weapon system's capabilities were demonstrated in 1990 following Iraq's invasion of Kuwait.
"Patriot's performance against Iraqi SCUD missile attacks were impressive, even though the SCUD missiles exceeded Patriot's design threat," he said.
Top company official Taylor W Lawrence, President of Raytheon's Missile Systems, said India is also looking at the 'Javelin' anti-tank and anti-armour missile 'and a 'letter of intent' is expected to be issue soon.
"Javelin has been fully tested by the Indian land forces. We expect a letter of intent from the Indian government," he said.
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/repor...triot-ground-based-air-defence-system_1412416
Farnborough: India is evaluating the advanced Patriot ground-based air defence system for its ballistic missile shield and the US has provided "classified" material to it on the weapon unit, which was successfully used during both Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom, Patriot's manufacturer Raytheon said today.
"A number of exchanges have taken place between the government of India and the US and information has been given to India at the classified level," Joseph Garret, Vice President of the company's Patriot Programmes told PTI.
Replying to questions, he said tests of the Patriot system, which has been procured by 12 countries, by India's Defence Research and Development Organisation and other agencies had been "highly successful".
On India developing its own missile defence shield, Garret said, "Patriot system gives a major boost to any country's defence capability. India may be developing its own system, but Patriot is a combat-proven weapon system."
Another senior official of Raytheon, a defence and aerospace major, said Washington and New Delhi have also discussed the issue of India-specific end-user accords.
"If the US government gives a go-ahead, Raytheon will step in," he said.
Since its production began in 1980, more than 170 Patriot fire units and over 9,000 have been delivered by the company.
The countries which have acquired the weapon system, were Germany, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the Netherlands, Japan, Israel, Taiwan, Greece, Spain, South Korea and the UAE.
The weapon system's capabilities were demonstrated in 1990 following Iraq's invasion of Kuwait.
"Patriot's performance against Iraqi SCUD missile attacks were impressive, even though the SCUD missiles exceeded Patriot's design threat," he said.
Top company official Taylor W Lawrence, President of Raytheon's Missile Systems, said India is also looking at the 'Javelin' anti-tank and anti-armour missile 'and a 'letter of intent' is expected to be issue soon.
"Javelin has been fully tested by the Indian land forces. We expect a letter of intent from the Indian government," he said.
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/repor...triot-ground-based-air-defence-system_1412416
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India evaluating Patriot ground-based air defence system
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India...based-air-defence-system/Article1-575222.aspx
ndia is evaluating the advanced Patriot ground-based air defence system for its ballistic missile shield and the US has provided "classified" material to it on the weapon unit, which was successfully used during both Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom, Patriot's manufacturer Raytheon said on
Tuesday.
"A number of exchanges have taken place between the government of India and the US and information has been given to India at the classified level," Joseph Garret, Vice President of the company's Patriot Programmes told PTI.
Replying to questions, he said tests of the Patriot system, which has been procured by 12 countries, by India's Defence Research and Development Organisation and other agencies had been "highly successful".
On India developing its own missile defence shield, Garret said, "Patriot system gives a major boost to any country's defence capability. India may be developing its own system, but Patriot is a combat-proven weapon system."
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India...based-air-defence-system/Article1-575222.aspx
ndia is evaluating the advanced Patriot ground-based air defence system for its ballistic missile shield and the US has provided "classified" material to it on the weapon unit, which was successfully used during both Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom, Patriot's manufacturer Raytheon said on
Tuesday.
"A number of exchanges have taken place between the government of India and the US and information has been given to India at the classified level," Joseph Garret, Vice President of the company's Patriot Programmes told PTI.
Replying to questions, he said tests of the Patriot system, which has been procured by 12 countries, by India's Defence Research and Development Organisation and other agencies had been "highly successful".
On India developing its own missile defence shield, Garret said, "Patriot system gives a major boost to any country's defence capability. India may be developing its own system, but Patriot is a combat-proven weapon system."
