Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

[Haldiram]

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[shankyz]

New Delhi: After a long, long while, the Indian jawan on the line of control knows that modern, high-quality rifles are on the way. The defence minister, Ms Nirmala Sitharaman, has just cleared the purchase of 72,400 rifles for the Indian army, initially for soldiers in difficult conditions, fighting infiltrating terrorists in Jammu and Kashmir.

These are the SIG716-G2 rifles from Sig Sauer and delivery is likely within a year. There can be delays: the contract mentions delivery within a designated period. These will use 7.62 mm ammunition and they may be more effective than the indigenous INSAS rifles that use 5.56 mm ammunition.

The deal was initially for rifles, carbines and light machine-guns, but so far, the rifles have been cleared and the carbines are likely to be okayed very soon. The LMG deal is likely to take more time as rebidding has happened. And buying rifles are not going to hurt the exchequer very much — Rs 700 crore or less is all that it is likely to cost.

Once the carbines also come, the humble jawan, the man right on the front, will have the best possible weapons. Currently, he is having to use the INSAS rifle, good but underpowered slightly and also, the AK-47, still very effective. The SIG716-G2 will be a new generation rifle, lighter and more accurate.

https://www.timesnownews.com/india/...g-sauer-guns-ak47-assault-rifles-insas/358404

 

[Prashant12]

FIRST IN DECADES: Biggest New Assault Rifle Deal For Indian Army Finally In Sight

The Indian Army’s largest infusion of basic assault rifles in recent years is finally on the horizon. Livefist can confirm that the Ministry of Defence last week signed off on paperwork that will see a deal for 72,400 SIG716 assault rifles concluded later this month with U.S. firm Sig Sauer Inc. The rifles will replace in the service INSAS with frontline infantry units. All of the rifles contracted will be manufactured at Sig Sauer’s New Hampshire facilities and supplied over the course of a single year to meet the Indian Army’s fast track requirements.

The Indian Army chose the SIG716 in September last year after a competitive process, also choosing UAE firm Caracal in a contest to supply 93,895 battle carbines. The order for 72,400 assault rifles from Sig Sauer Inc. will be the single largest contract for assault rifles since the INSAS, developed and built by the state-owned Ordnance Factor Board (OFB), entered service. The Indian Army has, over the last decade, procured a few thousand Israeli Tavor TAR-21 5.56mm assault rifles for its Special Forces and Rashtriya Rifles counter-insurgency units, but has continuously failed to land a large-scale induction of desperately needed assault rifles. The AK-47, a standard weapon across several units, will also see an upgrade, as Livefist reported recently, with the Indian and Russian governments providing finishing touches to a deal to manufacture 650,000 AK-103 assault rifles in India.

The SIG716 also be India’s first major contract for an American infantry weapon. The Indian Army has selected the SIG716 G2 Patrol, a weapon that combines the structure of the earlier SIG 516 assault rifle with a 7.62mm cartridge. The deal is said to also include a variety of accessories and optics.


With the MoD providing an-clear for the assault rifle contract with Sig Sauer Inc., it’s reasonable to expect that similar clearances will follow for the 93,895 carbine deal with UAE’s Caracal. That ill-tempered contest is being followed with a much bigger contest for similar carbines, with the Indian Army officially announcing interest in procuring 360,000 more. The M4A1 carbine, a weapon in service in small numbers with the Indian Army’s Para Special Forces, could compete alongside other contenders. Indian soldiers have had several brushes with the M4A1 over the years in the Yudh Abhyas exercise series with the U.S. Army.

Indian soldier with a US Army M4A1 at Exercise Yudh Abhyas / US ARMY PHOTO

The big contracts coming up are a major break from piecemeal procurement ethic that has bedeviled the Indian Army’s small arms procurement, a crushing irony given the huge dependence on the infantry for counter-insurgency, border patrol and anti-terror operations. After years of meandering contests and ad hoc procurements to meet emergency requirements, Indian Army chief General Bipin Rawat in 2017 is said to have taken a firm decision to fast track procurement, dividing requirements between high performance/urgent for frontline forces and slightly less advanced/license built equipment for other infantry units.

To be sure, the Army is still compelled to procure weapons in small numbers. Last month, the Indian Army revealed it had contracted for an unspecified (but undoubtedly small) number of sniper rifles for troops posted on the Line of Control with Pakistan-occupied Kashmir.

Apart from the high-number procurement of assault rifles and carbines, the Indian Army is also all set to open a contest this month for a deal for 40,000 light machineguns (LMG) to augment in the in service Israeli Negev.

https://www.livefistdefence.com/201...le-deal-for-indian-army-finally-in-sight.html

 

[Aaj ka hero]

These are fast track process must be necessary because atleast you need to be more than equal than those CHINESE and PAKISTANIS, 72000 is not huge if one compare to Indian army size (note:I do know every army personnel is not going to fight front battle) must be for integrated battle groups.

 

[vampyrbladez]

FIRST IN DECADES: Biggest New Assault Rifle Deal For Indian Army Finally In Sight

The Indian Army’s largest infusion of basic assault rifles in recent years is finally on the horizon. Livefist can confirm that the Ministry of Defence last week signed off on paperwork that will see a deal for 72,400 SIG716 assault rifles concluded later this month with U.S. firm Sig Sauer Inc. The rifles will replace in the service INSAS with frontline infantry units. All of the rifles contracted will be manufactured at Sig Sauer’s New Hampshire facilities and supplied over the course of a single year to meet the Indian Army’s fast track requirements.

The Indian Army chose the SIG716 in September last year after a competitive process, also choosing UAE firm Caracal in a contest to supply 93,895 battle carbines. The order for 72,400 assault rifles from Sig Sauer Inc. will be the single largest contract for assault rifles since the INSAS, developed and built by the state-owned Ordnance Factor Board (OFB), entered service. The Indian Army has, over the last decade, procured a few thousand Israeli Tavor TAR-21 5.56mm assault rifles for its Special Forces and Rashtriya Rifles counter-insurgency units, but has continuously failed to land a large-scale induction of desperately needed assault rifles. The AK-47, a standard weapon across several units, will also see an upgrade, as Livefist reported recently, with the Indian and Russian governments providing finishing touches to a deal to manufacture 650,000 AK-103 assault rifles in India.

The SIG716 also be India’s first major contract for an American infantry weapon. The Indian Army has selected the SIG716 G2 Patrol, a weapon that combines the structure of the earlier SIG 516 assault rifle with a 7.62mm cartridge. The deal is said to also include a variety of accessories and optics.


With the MoD providing an-clear for the assault rifle contract with Sig Sauer Inc., it’s reasonable to expect that similar clearances will follow for the 93,895 carbine deal with UAE’s Caracal. That ill-tempered contest is being followed with a much bigger contest for similar carbines, with the Indian Army officially announcing interest in procuring 360,000 more. The M4A1 carbine, a weapon in service in small numbers with the Indian Army’s Para Special Forces, could compete alongside other contenders. Indian soldiers have had several brushes with the M4A1 over the years in the Yudh Abhyas exercise series with the U.S. Army.

Indian soldier with a US Army M4A1 at Exercise Yudh Abhyas / US ARMY PHOTO

The big contracts coming up are a major break from piecemeal procurement ethic that has bedeviled the Indian Army’s small arms procurement, a crushing irony given the huge dependence on the infantry for counter-insurgency, border patrol and anti-terror operations. After years of meandering contests and ad hoc procurements to meet emergency requirements, Indian Army chief General Bipin Rawat in 2017 is said to have taken a firm decision to fast track procurement, dividing requirements between high performance/urgent for frontline forces and slightly less advanced/license built equipment for other infantry units.

To be sure, the Army is still compelled to procure weapons in small numbers. Last month, the Indian Army revealed it had contracted for an unspecified (but undoubtedly small) number of sniper rifles for troops posted on the Line of Control with Pakistan-occupied Kashmir.

Apart from the high-number procurement of assault rifles and carbines, the Indian Army is also all set to open a contest this month for a deal for 40,000 light machineguns (LMG) to augment in the in service Israeli Negev.

https://www.livefistdefence.com/201...le-deal-for-indian-army-finally-in-sight.html

If Modi doesn't win you can kiss these upgrades goodbye!

 

[Wisemarko]

My friends who own SIG just love it. Arguably the best choice for price.

 

[Vayuputra]

How many years more before our men start getting equipped with this rifle?

 

[vampyrbladez]

How many years more before our men start getting equipped with this rifle?

Delivery complete in 1 year. Next week deal is signed.

 

[sthf]

Import lobby strikes again. I have been told that OFB made Lee Enfield was just as good as these Italian and American made sniper rifles, can hit targets out to 2000 m with the accuracy of 0.5 MOA at 100 meters.

Yeh bik gayi gormint.

Next they import 40,000 MGs when we have home grown world class product in INSAS LMG which could be upgunned to 7.62x51mm.



PS:
On a similar note, I am planning to replace my Samsung phone and Sony TV with Micromax and Intex respectively because I am a patriot.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

On a similar note, I am planning to replace my Samsung phone and Sony TV with Micromax and Intex respectively because I am a patriot.

Don't fool yourself here. Micromax sells Chinese products with India tag. To less extent, even Inter assembles. Electronic industry isn't that native to India yet so most stuff will remain imported.

Still, a good one could be HCL.

 

[sthf]

Don't fool yourself here. Micromax sells Chinese products with India tag. To less extent, even Inter assembles. Electronic industry isn't that native to India yet so most stuff will remain imported.

Still, a good one could be HCL.

Dammit!!! Is nothing sacred anymore?

I wish there was an OFB equivalent for consumer items so that Indians can take pride in their world class indigenous products and superb workmanship like INSAS and Trichy Assault rifles makes me beam with pride.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

The most of cost of most electronic gadgets is from small chip inside it i.e. semiconductor. Taiwan controls nearly entire share of it.
Imported semiconductors are assembled with other stuff to make smartphones in China and on a smaller scale in India by companies like HCL, Karbonn & Intex.

Micromax and i ball are cheating by not even assembling but plain importing.

To produce semiconductors, you will need very expensive fabrication plants with risk that technology might go obsolete till your plant is operational. China failed and the plant they made for smartphones are being used to make calculators now. In India, we got two (one in Bangalore and other in Chandigarh) but for space & military purpose.

that Indians can take pride

Why being proud? Feel "lucky" to be an Indian, not proud, we didn't choose where we have to be born. Nationalism of India shouldn't be radical like west.
You & me didn't build nation. We are using fruits of what others did

 

[Coalmine]

^^^ Huawei is making kirin processors.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

^^^ Huawei is making kirin processors.

Yeah, they've added that feather in cap. We aren't at that stage at all yet.

 

[proud_indian]

To produce semiconductors, you will need very expensive fabrication plants with risk that technology might go obsolete till your plant is operational. China failed and the plant they made for smartphones are being used to make calculators now. In India, we got two (one in Bangalore and other in Chandigarh) but for space & military purpose.

Where does Huawei fabricate it's Kirin series of SOC's?

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Where does Huawei fabricate it's Kirin series of SOC's?

Fabless production. They entirely designed chip & outsourced manufacturing to TSMC.

Similar big hub is being developed in India but isn't as advanced.

 

[aarav]

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[Haldiram]

PS:
On a similar note, I am planning to replace my Samsung phone and Sony TV with Micromax and Intex respectively because I am a patriot.

Micromax, iBall, Intex, are all importing from China and putting Make in India sticker. To be fair, Samsung is also importing from China, and so is Apple.

There are generic brand Korean IPS monitors which are really good, get those. There's no specific brand name.

 

[Haldiram]

Why being proud? Feel "lucky" to be an Indian, not proud, we didn't choose where we have to be born. Nationalism of India shouldn't be radical like west.
You & me didn't build nation. We are using fruits of what others did

Bittu again fallen into liberal spectrum.

There's hardly anything we are using now that was built 50 years ago. Most of the highways, high speed internet cables and other infrastructure was actively built in the last 2 decades, using the tax money and blood and sweat of people who are alive today. We didn't inherit shit from the previous generation. What we inherited was a bloody partition, a few crores of rabid Muslims, secularism and socialism.

We had 50 years of socialism where the government's only source of income was digging coal and minerals out of the ground and distributing the income. All the service-based GDP growth we have seen post 1991 liberalization is built by Indians of today. Indians have a damn good reason to be proud of what they have built. We didn't steal it like the Americans did.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

There's hardly anything we are using now that was built 50 years ago. Most of the highways, high speed internet cables and other infrastructure was actively built in the last 2 decades, using the tax money and blood and sweat of people who are alive today. We didn't inherit shit from the previous generation. What we inherited was a bloody partition, a few crores of rabid Muslims, secularism and socialism.

We had 50 years of socialism where the government's only source of income was digging coal and minerals out of the ground and distributing the income. All the service based GDP growth we have seen post 1991 liberalization is built by Indians of today. Indians have a damn good reason to be proud of what they have built. We didn't steal it like the Americans did.

I'm making the verbal correction of being "lucky" for it still unless you were political leader contributing to economic liberalisation.

For first, don't pull me in, nationalisms of abarahmic civilian are pointless at first place as they are defending artificial realms unlike complete civilization of India.