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What's the status of Abhay?Will OFB come back with Abhay in this FICV contest?
Don't know or almost no.
Private companies are providing much better platforms.
Given their track record, it must not be very difficult for them to design and manufacture and good ICV. Better than OFB. :D
 

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The Mod Just Shoehorned the PFB into the FICV process, Paanwala says had to be done to placate Labor unions.Support from DPSU unions key in many constituencies in UP and Bengal polls.
Also ABHAY may be back in an improved avatar for tracked FICV, wheeled FICV all but gone to KESTREL.
http://www.defensenews.com/story/de...hits-hurdle-over-company-selections/79427562/
NEW DELHI — India's $11 billion Future Infantry Combat Vehicle (FICV) program faces hurdles after private domestic companies objected to the Defence Ministry's nomination of state-owned Ordnance Factory Board as one of the program's Development Agencies (DA).

The other DA's will be selected from among more than half a dozen competing private companies, and the MoD has extended the date of filing their bids to Feb. 16.

Under the Make India category, two DA's would be selected and the government would fund up to 80 percent of the prototypes. After trials, one of the DA's would be asked to produce the FICV.

When asked if the private companies endorse the nomination of OFB, Rajinder Bhatia, CEO of Bharat Forge, one of the competitors, said, "No comment. We hope this one-time exception and nomination would be discontinued as promised by the MoD."

However, an executive of another competitor openly disapproved of MoD's decision to nominate state-owned companies.

"The new players would contest that this short-listing of one vendor was announced after the expression of interest [EOI] was published, which did not have this qualification criteria. This constitutes a change, more like an after-thought. This ground is sufficient for retraction of the EOI," said an executive of Tata Group.

Another senior executive of a private company, also in the race, said there is confusion whether OFB will be a third DA in addition to two DA's to be selected from competing private companies.

Bhatia said the impression being given to industry and EOI recipients is that OFB will be the third DA.

In addition, selection of OFB by nomination goes against the purpose of the Make India policy, which proposes to boost the domestic defense company.

The EOIs were issued to domestic private major Mahindra; Bharat Forge; Larsen & Toubro; Punj Lloyd; Tata Power; Tata Motors; Pipavav Defence; Rolta India; and Titagarh Wagons. The second DA will now have to be selected from these private sector companies.

The FICV project has struggled since it was conceived nearly seven years ago and may not ever take off in the Make India category, said an Indian Army official.

The Army requires the FICV to have a life span of 32 years. The vehicle should be tracked and have amphibious capability with full combat load. It will ultimately replace existing Russian-made BMP-2 infantry combat vehicles.

Questions Over Selection of the DA

"The basis of selection of a DA from among the private sector defense companies remains questionable as there is no strict yardstick to select the DA," said Nitin Mehta, a defense analyst here.

The commercial strength of the defense company is given priority over technical ability, according to the criteria formulated by the MoD.

"“Too much emphasis in the assessment of DAs has been laid on commercial and technical criteria, which should have already been taken into account during the feasibility study conducted for short-listing companies as potential DAs," said Khutub Hai, retired Indian Army brigadier general and managing director of Firmbase Consulting.

"Repeating the same criteria for final selection is a faulty method and only places emphasis on size of the company and the defense contracts executed earlier, even if such contracts have little in common with the FICV.”

Since commercial and technical criteria account for more than 60 percent of the assessment, Hai said, "only two or three large companies will qualify all the time.”

Meantime, the Army has pressed to upgrade existing BMP-2 infantry combat vehicles, ensuring against the delayed FICV project. The Army wants to upgrade these vehicles so they can remain in operation post-2017.

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IA has tin cans as APC ,BMP2 is obsolete . There indigenous APC as usual could't materialize so in the end might go for BMP3 from russia .
BMP 2 is not an APC but an IFV with better armor and Firepower.Most of the APCs in service are being pahased out.

BMPs are the backbone of IA mechanized infantry and strike crops along with NBC warfare.

APC BTR 60s and SKOT are now placed at museums while few BRDM and MTLB are still in service.
 

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The Mod Just Shoehorned the PFB into the FICV process, Paanwala says had to be done to placate Labor unions.Support from DPSU unions key in many constituencies in UP and Bengal polls.
Also ABHAY may be back in an improved avatar for tracked FICV, wheeled FICV all but gone to KESTREL.
http://www.defensenews.com/story/de...hits-hurdle-over-company-selections/79427562/
Good going.
Give them to really working (maybe due to greed) private companies , not ideal bureaus. :thumbsup:
 

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Army start user trials of upgraded T-90S

The upgraded MBT is equipped with a new commander's panoramic sight, and driver's uncooled thermal imager (derived from that developed for the Arjun Mk1A MBT). VRDE has also developed a new APU, which too is now undergoing user-trials.

The CVRDE-upgraded prototype of the T-90S is replacing the T01-K04 with the IRDE-developed/BEL-built commander's panoramic sight (housing a SAGEM-built MATIS-STD thermal imager operating in the 3-5 micron bandwidth), which has resulted in enhanced static visibility levels for both the gunner and commander. In addition, the IV528-2 digital ballistics computer has given way to an indigenous solution developed by TATA Power Strategic Electronics Division, while the IRDE-developed driver's uncooled thermal imaging night sight has replaced the TVN-5 night-vision device.

Apart from the above, a DEAL-developed MMW-based IFF system has been installed for enhancing the MBT crew's situational awareness.

 

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Army start user trials of upgraded T-90S

The upgraded MBT is equipped with a new commander's panoramic sight, and driver's uncooled thermal imager (derived from that developed for the Arjun Mk1A MBT). VRDE has also developed a new APU, which too is now undergoing user-trials.

The CVRDE-upgraded prototype of the T-90S is replacing the T01-K04 with the IRDE-developed/BEL-built commander's panoramic sight (housing a SAGEM-built MATIS-STD thermal imager operating in the 3-5 micron bandwidth), which has resulted in enhanced static visibility levels for both the gunner and commander. In addition, the IV528-2 digital ballistics computer has given way to an indigenous solution developed by TATA Power Strategic Electronics Division, while the IRDE-developed driver's uncooled thermal imaging night sight has replaced the TVN-5 night-vision device.

Apart from the above, a DEAL-developed MMW-based IFF system has been installed for enhancing the MBT crew's situational awareness.
Please post images if you find them. The agencies need to learn that a picture is worth a thousand words. Atleast 1-2 pics should be released to the media accompanying any such news releases.
 

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FICV: Future Infantry Combat Vehicle

The abbreviation FICV was in news in the second week of February 2016 as Tata Motors, Bharat Forge and the USA-based General Dynamics tied up for defense bid under Future Infantry Combat Vehicle programme.

The FICV Programme involves development of compact combat vehicles for the Indian Army that will replace Russian-designed BMP (Sarath BMP-II) series armed vehicles that are in operation since 1980.

The nearly 10 billion US dollar project is touted as India’s largest indigenous defense program.

Features of Future Infantry Combat Vehicle Programme

• The FICV is an amphibious, tracked, armoured vehicle and will be operated by a crew of 3 members consisting of the commander, gunner and driver with an additional capacity to carry 7 fully equipped infantrymen.

• The weight of the vehicle will be kept at around 20 tonnes so that it can be transported by air and other means in combat zones.

• It will have the strike power of a 45 tonne Main Battle Tank (MBT) including rapid fire cannon, a 7.62 mm machine gun, grenade launcher and an anti-tank missile.

• It will be fully amphibious and all terrain capability for high mobility to keep pace with new advancement in weaponry system.

http://www.jagranjosh.com/current-a...lion-indian-armys-ficv-programme-1455782170-1
 

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Is BMP-2 a tincan. BMP-2 is still fighting around the world and many videos are available of such fights. I guess simple upgrades can improve the BMP sufficiently to keep it relevant. This vehicle is fully localized. Indian factories have learned to make its components. So the vehicle can be supported in war.
 
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So now we have

1. 310 T 90S without APS

2. 600 ~ T 90M with Kanchan Armor and LADS 150 APS, with more powerful engine than T 90S
 

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Is there a upgrade kit for this so we can upgrade our old tank?What about terminator Infantry fighting vehicle .It is good for urban warfare.
 

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Is there a upgrade kit for this so we can upgrade our old tank?What about terminator Infantry fighting vehicle .It is good for urban warfare.
Older T 72 are already upgraded with Night vision capabilities and powerful engine.
 

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An armoured 360-degrees revolving Anti-Terrorist Vehicle’ (ATV) has been deployed in the Parliament complex for securing it against terrorist attack- like incidents.Brought out on special anti-ballistic configuration approved by DRDO, the two commandos-seater vehicle has been put on ‘trial’ at the seat of power in central Delhi to test its efficacy in combating a terrorist or suicide attack. The 4.5-tonne military camouflage vehicle, moving on tank-like tyres has a special armour plating which can resist close firing from any modern assault rifle and grenades and provides ample opportunity to armed commandos to take precise aim from the firing ports without getting hit.It also has enough space for commandos to stock their weapons and ammunition, the officials said. The vehicle can attain a maximum speed limit of 25 km per hour and is the first of its kind in the small variants of bullet-proof vehicles that are required to operate in large built up areas like Parliament, they said.

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Why not in J&k ? , Like the concept ..
 

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An armoured 360-degrees revolving Anti-Terrorist Vehicle’ (ATV) has been deployed in the Parliament complex for securing it against terrorist attack- like incidents.Brought out on special anti-ballistic configuration approved by DRDO, the two commandos-seater vehicle has been put on ‘trial’ at the seat of power in central Delhi to test its efficacy in combating a terrorist or suicide attack. The 4.5-tonne military camouflage vehicle, moving on tank-like tyres has a special armour plating which can resist close firing from any modern assault rifle and grenades and provides ample opportunity to armed commandos to take precise aim from the firing ports without getting hit.It also has enough space for commandos to stock their weapons and ammunition, the officials said. The vehicle can attain a maximum speed limit of 25 km per hour and is the first of its kind in the small variants of bullet-proof vehicles that are required to operate in large built up areas like Parliament, they said.

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Why not in J&k ? , Like the concept ..
IMO in Kashmir we would require a heavier one with much more troop capacity then the present two commandos one. I think its still in testing phase. We might see some soon in action once full fledged production starts.
 

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Though this one can carry four troopers at back and one or two at front, Don`t like the big glass at front even its bullet proof ..

IMO in Kashmir we would require a heavier one with much more troop capacity then the present two commandos one. I think its still in testing phase. We might see some soon in action once full fledged production starts.
 

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Though this one can carry four troopers at back and one or two at front, Don`t like the big glass at front even its bullet proof ..
I think this big glass is good for situational awareness and peripheral vision while in operation. But yeah, a tinted glass would be the best choice in my opinion.
 

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Indian T-90s are now irrrelevant; the Uranium depleted Niazi rounds are capable of instantly destroying a fully armored T-90 with a single hit; unless India procures a trophy like system.
No need to worry these shell have a range of 3-5 Km while T 90 can use missile and destroy tank at more then 10 km ,plus T 90 has a lot of active counter measure system which hit the round before it hits the tank,the are a lot of variables .
 

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No need to worry these shell have a range of 3-5 Km while T 90 can use missile and destroy tank at more then 10 km ,plus T 90 has a lot of active counter measure system which hit the round before it hits the tank,the are a lot of variables .
10 km missile from an Tank ..can you name that
 

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Indian T-90s are now irrrelevant; the Uranium depleted Niazi rounds are capable of instantly destroying a fully armored T-90 with a single hit; unless India procures a trophy like system.
US is the only nation who used the DU Shells and used it, India is not going to war with USA.

not only T 90, each and every Tanks are vulnerable to DU shells
 

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