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Yes it was read book from PN oak it jas 100s of proof. But congress govt rejected it. If you see the shape its lotus shape abd pond around. There was vishnu statue which was broken and Brahma statue on top signifying creation. Kuttubuddin ruled delhi for 4 yrs only and its immpossible to build it in such short span in those days. Neither he has mentioned in autobiography. Statues were unearthed by ASI.
Here is 4 part series

http://agniveer.com/qutub-minar-hindu-structure/
 

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Harappan Discovery: For The First Time, Joint Burial Of Couple Found In Haryana
by Swarajya Staff - Jan 09 2019, 3:57 pm,





Ancient Harappan civilisation (Shefali11011/ Wiki Commons)


For the first time, archaeologists from Deccan College Deemed University in Pune have discovered two skeletons, a young male and a female buried in the same grave at the same time with the man’s face turned toward the woman. This is the first time the joint burial of a couple in a Harappan cemetery has been anthropologically confirmed.

The 'couple's grave' was found in the Harappan settlements excavated some 150 km northwest of Delhi at Rakhigarhi in Haryana.

In spite of many settlements and cemeteries being discovered and investigated, no couple burial at Harappan cemeteries have been reported.

Vasant Shinde, the vice chancellor of Deccan College Deemed University and corresponding author of the research, remarked that archaeologists in India have often debated the historical meaning of joint burials and how the Harappans believed in life after death. “The pots may have contained food and water for the dead, a custom probably fuelled by the belief that the dead may need them after death. Hence, the contemporary view of life after death may actually be as old as 5,000 years,” he said, reports Times of India.

The ages of the skeletons have been determined to be between 21 and 35 and the height to be 5 feet 6 inches and 5 feet 2 inches of the man and the woman respectively.
 

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They found burial grounds at the site, but don't we cremate our dead?
The IVC practiced different ways to dispose their dead. Burial and cremation were both in vogue and the same can be seen from the archeological record. The society may have consisted of different groups which mutually exclusive cultural traits, Including burial customs. However cremation may have been the most commonly followed practice.
 

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The IVC practiced different ways to dispose their dead. Burial and cremation were both in vogue and the same can be seen from the archeological record. The society may have consisted of different groups which mutually exclusive cultural traits, Including burial customs. However cremation may have been the most commonly followed practice.
Parsis(Zoroastrians) even today don't cremate their dead coz they believe Fire is pure and corpse is impure. And Vedics perform cremation. Any chances of co-existence between the two back at IVC times which we need to ponder upon? The multitude of customs explains a multi-cultural society.
 

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The indo-gangetic region was ideal ground for swift horse driven Chariots and such elite weapon, such as a war Chariot, requires existence of well organized political states which emerged in the western UP and Doab region in the post Vedic period...

However early Vedic texts do carry references to use of Chariots in battles fought on the banks of saraswathi and her tributary rivers
 

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Parsis(Zoroastrians) even today don't cremate their dead coz they believe Fire is pure and corpse is impure. And Vedics perform cremation. Any chances of co-existence between the two back at IVC times which we need to ponder upon? The multitude of customs explains a multi-cultural society.
Standard scholarship is of the opinion, though now much contested, that Vedic society, along with the attendant culture, emerged much later than IVC and hence the latter could not have influenced the former by a great degree. Since old Avestan was closely connected to the Vedic, so unlikely to have been influenced by IVC either.

Many of the current zoroastrian practices could have evolved much later than late bronze age.
 

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So what is the progress of Bhagpat findings?
Are they really chariots or Carts?
Do they belong to IVC or are they different?
 

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So what is the progress of Bhagpat findings?
Are they really chariots or Carts?
Do they belong to IVC or are they different?
It would be premature to draw any conclusions until ASI publishes it's full report on excavation going on in Sanauli. Remember Sanauli was first excavated in mid 2000 and going by ASI's previous track record, it's still early days for a full report (field reports for excavations conducted in the Mahabharata & Ramayana sites by the B. B. Lal is yet to be fully published)

From what you can glean from media reports it appears the object appears to be of the type of a swift Chariot. Given the general nature of the Sanauli complex, it's a large graveyard of a martial nature with copper swords, armour etc, it's more likely to be a Chariot than a cart. Sanauli site is generally considered to belong to the Late Harappan Culture, but some of its finds like the antenna shaped swords have interesting parallels with antenna shaped swords found in the Copper Hoard Culture (the other culture which is considered a coterminous culture with LHC.

The interesting part of Sanauli site is that, it does not appear to be connected to any living settlement that we know of. Harappan grave sites, like R37 and Cemetery H, have been found within or near to settlements(even in Rakhigarhi). If
 

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Sir how true can be existences of this river in the past.
Other than References and a NASA testimony we don't have a concrete proof.
I was merely referring to references in literary texts that talk about battles fought in the western region. Of course we'll never see a clinchinsg evidence for the existence of river Saraswathi. However we have hydrological surveys dating to mid nineteen century, which shows existence a very large paleochannel running from the the siwalik ranges to the rann of match, in the broad regions that parallel the course of Saraswathi of the literature. Isro and other recent findings merely reinforce these old studies.
 
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I was merely referring to references in literary texts that talk about battles fought in the western region. Of course we'll never see a clinchinsg evidence for the existence of river Saraswathi. However we have hydrological surveys dating to mid nineteen century, which shows existence a very large paleochannel running from the the siwalik ranges to the rann of match, in the broad regions that parallel the course of Saraswathi of the literature. Isro and other recent findings merely reinforce these old studies.
So Talageri was right?He mentioned the west ward flow of hostilities starting from our NW U.P,Haryana till Pakjab. He gave a periodic analysis of the Rigvedic era where he spoke abt the geographical features in RV mentioned in each -Late,Middle and post rigvedic periods with Dasarajnya Yuddha as a point of focus.

How do u rate Talageri's work sir?
 

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So Talageri was right?He mentioned the west ward flow of hostilities starting from our NW U.P,Haryana till Pakjab. He gave a periodic analysis of the Rigvedic era where he spoke abt the geographical features in RV mentioned in each -Late,Middle and post rigvedic periods with Dasarajnya Yuddha as a point of focus.

How do u rate Talageri's work sir?
Talageri's analysis of the Rg veda mandalas and their relative chronology depends on whether you accept his rearrangement of the 10 mandalas. Of course his argument is correct that the traditional arrangement of the mandalas(1-10) was not based on any chronology and probably he is the first person, in recent years, to have made an attempt to study the texts chronology.

However you must refer to the objections raised by Prof witzel, especially on his reliance on vedic Index list (Anukramanis which are considered a later addition), to arrive at his chronology.
 

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