India Strikes Against Pakistani Terrorism 2019

[mayfair]

I was wondering the same thing... India would not stop importing oil from Iran unless India was sure that the regime in Iran itself was in danger...

But the use of Chabahar port continues uninterrupted and also US has de-linked Chabahar from oil-related sanctions. That seems to contradict the impending regime change theory.

What I foresee (one that maynot even come to fruition fully) is a swift and short shock and awe conflict, bombings of a few Iranian bases/forces or even cities by the US-led Gulf-based forces, Iran retaliates against combined US-Israeli forces in the region (sinking a boat or so) and then a sort of ceasefire being called.

Helps Trump solidify his base, makes Saudis, Emiratis and Oman even more dependent on US.

Allows Netanyahu breathing space in Israel domestic politics, reduces Iranian ability to pump in money and material into Israel's neighbourhood.

Allows the hardline Iranian faction to tighten their grip in the country, quelling internal dissent.

I honestly cannot see who really gains from this except for Turkey, Russia and China, even then marginally.

Oh and US, Japan and SoKo can forget about any denuking of NoKo. If anything, Kim will double down on his nukes, knowing very well that they'll be all that will guarantee his and his future generations's survival.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

But the use of Chabahar port continues uninterrupted and also US has de-linked Chabahar from oil-related sanctions. That seems to contradict the impending regime change theory.

What I foresee (one that maynot even come to fruition fully) is a swift and short shock and awe conflict, bombings of a few Iranian bases/forces or even cities by the US-led Gulf-based forces, Iran retaliates against combined US-Israeli forces in the region (sinking a boat or so) and then a sort of ceasefire being called.

Helps Trump solidify his base, makes Saudis, Emiratis and Oman even more dependent on US.

Allows Netanyahu breathing space in Israel domestic politics, reduces Iranian ability to pump in money and material into Israel's neighbourhood.

Allows the hardline Iranian faction to tighten their grip in the country, quelling internal dissent.

I honestly cannot see who really gains from this except for Turkey, Russia and China, even then marginally.

Oh and US, Japan and SoKo can forget about any denuking of NoKo. If anything, Kim will double down on his nukes, knowing very well that they'll be all that will guarantee his and his future generations's survival.

That and the Seoul metropolitan region.. which contributes half of South Korea's GDP being at the border... North Korea's artillery and rockets alone can cripple South Korean economy... and this fact severely restricts US options ..

Between Iran has attacked and severely damaged a couple of Saudi oil tankers... Although Iran denies responsibility.. but it's same as Pakistan denying responsibility for balakot or 26/11.. But, I really appreciate this response from Iran... If Saudis thought that they will reap all the benefits of iranian oil embargo without any cost then they will have to think again...

 

[sthf]

It seems American invasion of Iran is imminent.

Doubtful. American public is in no mood for another war. They still haven't recovered from the last ones. Iranians won't capitulate as easily as tired Iraqis.

Plus US GDP growth is flying by their standards, blue collar employment generation is in boom. All in all good times for Trump and GOP and no need to distract Americans with war.

 

[Enquirer]

The media blackout is suspicious. Hard to believe only one security guard died.

Officially they've admitted that 5 folks (security & employees at the hotel) were killed!
Of course, the toll would be much higher given that Paki media themselves are now reporting that the entire building has been badly damaged - with the BLA rigging the building with IEDs and firing rockets AND the Paki security forces also retaliating with rocket fire!!!!

 

[Anand Bimraj]

I become speechless after listening this unscientitfic logic presented to Nation News.
despite such brilliant remarks Modi most likely will win this election. Just goes to show that people will vote for who ever they want not based on logic but purely on emotion.
https://theprint.in/science/modis-balakot-cloud-cover-theory-fails-our-accuracy-test-100/234755/

 

[Enquirer]

I become speechless after listening this unscientitfic logic presented to Nation News.
despite such brilliant remarks Modi most likely will win this election. Just goes to show that people will vote for who ever they want not based on logic but purely on emotion.
https://theprint.in/science/modis-balakot-cloud-cover-theory-fails-our-accuracy-test-100/234755/

This was definitely a 'pappu' moment for Modi! He got too excited and shared his naive thoughts!

That said, his saving grace is that he prefaced his statement with "I am not a an expert on this science". He probably did share his views with defence folks, who probably advised him otherwise.

Truth be said, 80%-90% of Indians (including the news anchors) didn't know any better. Only some 'experts' pointed out the issue and Modi is being skewered (deservedly perhaps).

But none of that 'unscientific logic' makes any difference to the leadership qualities that Modi brings to his position - which indeed has changed several paradigms in India (for better)

 

[aghamarshana]

We will not make a mistake like Prithviraj Chauhan. Now any Mohammad Gauri will not be forgiven.U keep singing d song of peace bt we will nt allow u 2 come again forward area of LOC.
General @OfficialDGISPR .This is new India & New India decides d rules of d game itself.

@adgpi

 

[tomato]

We will not make a mistake like Prithviraj Chauhan. Now any Mohammad Gauri will not be forgiven.U keep singing d song of peace bt we will nt allow u 2 come again forward area of LOC.
General @OfficialDGISPR .This is new India & New India decides d rules of d game itself.

@adgpi

There is lot more happening at loc, baba must be knowing it but not disclosing for some reasons

 

[Brimstone]

There is lot more happening at loc, baba must be knowing it but not disclosing for some reasons

Any CFV's in past few days ? Do they really want to de-escalate or it's just for IMF and FATF ?

 

[tomato]

Any CFV's in past few days ? Do they really want to de-escalate or it's just for IMF and FATF ?

we hv upped the ante taking full advantage of their desire to keep things wrapped in silence.

what I believe..on pretext of de-escalation they just want to buy time. u can never trust these porkis

 

[ezsasa]

we hv upped the ante taking full advantage of their desire to keep things wrapped in silence.

what I believe..on pretext of de-escalation they just want to buy time. u can never trust these porkis

Yup, there is no question of pakis giving up. PA cannot possibly abandon their golden goose..

The question should be whether future Indian govt has the stomach to sustain the pressure for another 5-10 years minimum.

Pakis have been pressuring us for 70 years, 5-10 years of pressure from our side is the least we can do...

 

[Brimstone]

Yup, there is no question of pakis giving up. PA cannot possibly abandon their golden goose..

The question should be whether future Indian govt has the stomach to sustain the pressure for another 5-10 years minimum.

Pakis have been pressuring us for 70 years, 5-10 years of pressure from our side is the least we can do...

Where do you see PA and Pakistan in next 5 years ?

 

[Holy Triad]

Meanwhile,Valley clean up continues...

Two militants reportedly arrested in Gool area of Ramban district of Jammu ..cash and some arms and anmuniation also recovered/ official confirmation awaited


Sources said Shoukat Of Awantipora and Toufeeq of Kulgam taken in custody from Gool area of Ramban district. Police yet to confirm more details


One more reason to keep up the pressure along the loc,since it will make the clean up job much more easier...

Breaking News : Huge Success Top Jaish mohmmad Miltant Identified as Hilal Ahmed Mir Arrested during search operation n area of #Anantnag district of #Kashmir. Earlier today 2 militants have been arrested by our forces, weapons and cash also recovered.

 

[ezsasa]

Where do you see PA and Pakistan in next 5 years ?

Status quo...... both PA and Pakistan have sufficient funds to sustain another 5 years for sure....

Internal insurgency is not a major problem for them, they have mastered the art of dealing with it at lower cost than us. It becomes more easier for them as they don’t have to deal with strong human rights lobby within Pakistan(unlike us), human rights lobbies are designed to slow down action against insurgency.

As far as economy is concerned, I think if their inflation peaks pakis would enact something similar to essential commodities act to control prices.

One thing I am not sure of is where does their coal for power plants comes from. If it is internal production, then it is manageable, if coal is being imported then by 4th or 5th year they will be seeing 12-15 hour power cuts.

If democrats regain power in the U.S, odds will be in favour of Pakistan again because of Muslim lobby becoming active again.

UK has their own problems, so no issues for us there.

 

[Brimstone]

Status quo...... both PA and Pakistan have sufficient funds to sustain another 5 years for sure....

Internal insurgency is not a major problem for them, they have mastered the art of dealing with it at lower cost than us. It becomes more easier for them as they don’t have to deal with strong human rights lobby within Pakistan(unlike us), human rights lobbies are designed to slow down action against insurgency.

As far as economy is concerned, I think if their inflation peaks pakis would enact something similar to essential commodities act to control prices.

One thing I am not sure of is where does their coal for power plants comes from. If it is internal production, then it is manageable, if coal is being imported then by 4th or 5th year they will be seeing 12-15 hour power cuts.

If democrats regain power in the U.S, odds will be in favour of Pakistan again because of Muslim lobby becoming active again.

UK has their own problems, so no issues for us there.

And how can we cut-short their lifespan ?

 

[tomato]

Breaking News : Huge Success Top Jaish mohmmad Miltant Identified as Hilal Ahmed Mir Arrested during search operation n area of #Anantnag district of #Kashmir. Earlier today 2 militants have been arrested by our forces, weapons and cash also recovered.

Arrested?? what happened to these pigs who used to say fight till last bullet n breath.. yahoos getting scared of fire fight... it tells all abt their morale

 

[ezsasa]

And how can we cut-short their lifespan ?

Continue ongoing Astha digbandhana, squeeze on all fronts for another 5-10 years.

What we should not do is to undertake any action which will create a sympathy wave for pakis because of some incident.

More importantly, desi fanboys should learn the concept of patience. Demanding tactical response is fine, but going overboard with their demands is not useful. After all politicians do what their vote base ask them to do...

 

[Godhimself]

Pakis did something on iranian border ?

Iranian FM Javid Zarif to land in Delhi tonight; Will meet EAM Sushma Swaraj .

 

[Sanglamorre]

Status quo...... both PA and Pakistan have sufficient funds to sustain another 5 years for sure....

Not to forget, China will chair FATF from July, so I see Pakistan removed from Grey List. Heck, India supported China so that Pak can be sent to greylist but seems like it might have been for nothing.

 

[ezsasa]

Not to forget, China will chair FATF from July, so I see Pakistan removed from Grey List. Heck, India supported China so that Pak can be sent to greylist but seems like it might have been for nothing.

That’s ok... ups and down happen. what matters is the resolve of the indian govt to stay the course...