India Strikes Against Pakistani Terrorism 2019

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Reliable sources say one of #IMF’s demands is reduction in #Pakistan’s Defense Budget


If this turned out to be true, coup is inevitable :pound:
I don't IMF specifically asked for Defense spending to be reduced.

IMF did ask for fiscal deficit to be reduced i.e. government spending. Since Paki army takes a big share of the budget, indirectly the defense spending has to be reduced.............
 

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Canada removes mention of Sikh extremism, India fumes
The erasure of eight references to Sikh extremism and organisations and six references to Khalistan, the so-called homeland sought by some radical groups, came against the backdrop of reports that pressure groups in the Sikh community had threatened Canada’s ruling Liberal Party with dire consequences in an election year.
INDIA Updated: Apr 14, 2019 10:02 IST

Anirudh Bhattacharyya and Rezaul H Laskar
Hindustan Times, Toronto/New Delhi

The updated report has a note which states that while “outlining a threat, it must be clearly linked to an ideology rather than a community”(AP File)
The Canadian government has bowed to domestic political compulsions and completely scrubbed all references to Sikh and Khalistani extremism in its 2018 report on terrorist threats, much to the chagrin of India.

Indian officials are aghast at the perceived capitulation to pressure from some community groups in Canada, and described the updated version of the “2018 Public Report on the Terrorist Threat to Canada” as a “full retreat” by Ottawa. The updated version was released on Friday, about 24 hours before Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was scheduled to attend a Vasakhi parade, organised in Vancouver by the Khalsa Diwan Society, with national defence minister Harjit Sajjan.

The erasure of eight references to Sikh extremism and organisations and six references to Khalistan, the so-called homeland sought by some radical groups, came against the backdrop of reports that pressure groups in the Sikh community had threatened Canada’s ruling Liberal Party with dire consequences in an election year.

Officials from both countries familiar with developments acknowledged the new version of the report is the outcome of domestic political compulsions in Canada, especially efforts by political parties to woo the influential Indian and Sikh communities. The officials, who declined to be named as they weren’t authorised to speak to the media, acknowledged counter-terror and security cooperation at the level of officials is robust, but there is a gap as far as the higher level of Canada’s political leadership is concerned.

They traced the problem to several Indian-origin ministers in Canada.

“This is why we are seeing this dichotomy, of having cooperation at the level of officials that is not seen at the higher levels,” said an Indian official.

Sikh and Khalistani extremism figured in a meeting of the bilateral joint working group on counter-terrorism in Ottawa during March 26-27. A joint statement issued after the meeting said the two sides “discussed the reference for the first time to the threat from Khalistani extremism in Public Safety Canada’s 2018 annual report”.

Sikh and Khalistani extremism had figured for the first time in the report issued by Public Safety Canada in December 2018. The original report said Canada continues to face threats from “individuals inspired to commit violence based on other forms of extremism, including from...Sikh (Khalistani) extremists”. It added attacks by Khalistanis in Canada were extremely limited, but “some Canadians continue to support these extremist groups, including through financing”.

The updated report has a note which states that while “outlining a threat, it must be clearly linked to an ideology rather than a community”. It adds: “The Government will carefully select terminology that focuses on the intent or ideology. For example, as a first step, the Government will use the term: Extremists who support violent means to establish an independent state within India; rather than terminology that unintentionally impugns an entire religion.”

However, references to other religious groups remain in the amended report, including to Sunni and Shia extremism. The changes are restricted to the section originally titled Sikh/Khalistani extremism, now called “Extremists who Support Violent Means to Establish an Independent State Within India”.

Those who campaigned for deleting references to Sikh and Khalistani extremism reacted with satisfaction.

Sukhminder Singh Hansra, who is openly pro-Khalistan and heads a chapter of Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar), said he thanked the Canadian Sikh community for raising its “collective voice against the derogatory words” in the report. “As a result, the government of Canada realised their mistake and eliminated the words ‘Sikh (Khalistani)’. Though I express satisfaction over the change, concern remains under what circumstances did the Trudeau government include these defamatory, derogatory and hurtful words in the report...as they do not reflect Canadian values,” he said.

The officials cited above said matters hadn’t been helped by the lack of high-level visits between the two sides, especially after Trudeau’s controversial trip to India in February 2018. Despite the impact of that visit, New Delhi has been determined to push forward the bilateral relationship, Indian officials said.

Canada’s leadership appears to be “treading a fine line” as, on one hand, it wants to maintain ties with a growing economy such as India but, on the other hand, some sections continue wooing Khalistanis, who make up a minor segment of the overall Sikh community, Indian officials said. India has also pointed to the presence of Canadian leaders at “pro-Khalistan events” but the other side “has not been forthcoming” on this issue, the officials added
 

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I don't IMF specifically asked for Defense spending to be reduced.

IMF did ask for fiscal deficit to be reduced i.e. government spending. Since Paki army takes a big share of the budget, indirectly the defense spending has to be reduced.............
You are right,
But I said
If this turned out to be true
My assumption is,as you said,spending cut would be suggested. Western bailout talks usually involves government employees pay cuts or reduction of work force.(Remember greece school teachers during crisis,Germany strong armed greece into job cuts)

Only sizeable govt. Jobs or spending on the table is army. Further round of talks may reveal more. One more issue is,even if the defence budget were discussed, both sides would have agreed to not to make it to the public knowledge(obvious security reasons). Let's see,I'm hopeful though :)
 

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Canada removes mention of Sikh extremism, India fumes
The erasure of eight references to Sikh extremism and organisations and six references to Khalistan, the so-called homeland sought by some radical groups, came against the backdrop of reports that pressure groups in the Sikh community had threatened Canada’s ruling Liberal Party with dire consequences in an election year.
INDIA Updated: Apr 14, 2019 10:02 IST

Anirudh Bhattacharyya and Rezaul H Laskar
Hindustan Times, Toronto/New Delhi

The updated report has a note which states that while “outlining a threat, it must be clearly linked to an ideology rather than a community”(AP File)
The Canadian government has bowed to domestic political compulsions and completely scrubbed all references to Sikh and Khalistani extremism in its 2018 report on terrorist threats, much to the chagrin of India.

Indian officials are aghast at the perceived capitulation to pressure from some community groups in Canada, and described the updated version of the “2018 Public Report on the Terrorist Threat to Canada” as a “full retreat” by Ottawa. The updated version was released on Friday, about 24 hours before Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was scheduled to attend a Vasakhi parade, organised in Vancouver by the Khalsa Diwan Society, with national defence minister Harjit Sajjan.

The erasure of eight references to Sikh extremism and organisations and six references to Khalistan, the so-called homeland sought by some radical groups, came against the backdrop of reports that pressure groups in the Sikh community had threatened Canada’s ruling Liberal Party with dire consequences in an election year.

Officials from both countries familiar with developments acknowledged the new version of the report is the outcome of domestic political compulsions in Canada, especially efforts by political parties to woo the influential Indian and Sikh communities. The officials, who declined to be named as they weren’t authorised to speak to the media, acknowledged counter-terror and security cooperation at the level of officials is robust, but there is a gap as far as the higher level of Canada’s political leadership is concerned.

They traced the problem to several Indian-origin ministers in Canada.

“This is why we are seeing this dichotomy, of having cooperation at the level of officials that is not seen at the higher levels,” said an Indian official.

Sikh and Khalistani extremism figured in a meeting of the bilateral joint working group on counter-terrorism in Ottawa during March 26-27. A joint statement issued after the meeting said the two sides “discussed the reference for the first time to the threat from Khalistani extremism in Public Safety Canada’s 2018 annual report”.

Sikh and Khalistani extremism had figured for the first time in the report issued by Public Safety Canada in December 2018. The original report said Canada continues to face threats from “individuals inspired to commit violence based on other forms of extremism, including from...Sikh (Khalistani) extremists”. It added attacks by Khalistanis in Canada were extremely limited, but “some Canadians continue to support these extremist groups, including through financing”.

The updated report has a note which states that while “outlining a threat, it must be clearly linked to an ideology rather than a community”. It adds: “The Government will carefully select terminology that focuses on the intent or ideology. For example, as a first step, the Government will use the term: Extremists who support violent means to establish an independent state within India; rather than terminology that unintentionally impugns an entire religion.”

However, references to other religious groups remain in the amended report, including to Sunni and Shia extremism. The changes are restricted to the section originally titled Sikh/Khalistani extremism, now called “Extremists who Support Violent Means to Establish an Independent State Within India”.

Those who campaigned for deleting references to Sikh and Khalistani extremism reacted with satisfaction.

Sukhminder Singh Hansra, who is openly pro-Khalistan and heads a chapter of Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar), said he thanked the Canadian Sikh community for raising its “collective voice against the derogatory words” in the report. “As a result, the government of Canada realised their mistake and eliminated the words ‘Sikh (Khalistani)’. Though I express satisfaction over the change, concern remains under what circumstances did the Trudeau government include these defamatory, derogatory and hurtful words in the report...as they do not reflect Canadian values,” he said.

The officials cited above said matters hadn’t been helped by the lack of high-level visits between the two sides, especially after Trudeau’s controversial trip to India in February 2018. Despite the impact of that visit, New Delhi has been determined to push forward the bilateral relationship, Indian officials said.

Canada’s leadership appears to be “treading a fine line” as, on one hand, it wants to maintain ties with a growing economy such as India but, on the other hand, some sections continue wooing Khalistanis, who make up a minor segment of the overall Sikh community, Indian officials said. India has also pointed to the presence of Canadian leaders at “pro-Khalistan events” but the other side “has not been forthcoming” on this issue, the officials added
These people are nutjobs playing at ISI hands.
 

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There should not be any "Prithviraj Syndrome" this time. and henceforth.

What is "Prithviraj Syndrome" - It is Hindu Code of Conduct of War. Means Indian War Fighting Doctrine. That the enemy once defeated in battle should not be completely destroyed but allowed to retreat. That allowed Ghori to go back injured (1191) to fight another day and kill Prithviraj in Second battle of Tarain(1192). That was the beginning of enslavement of India.

As per Christana Fair, Pakistani Army's War Fighting Doctrine is to save itself to fight another day. Indians always fell into trap of Prithviraj Syndrome and Pak Army doctrine-
1947 - Stopped at Poonch, Samsabari and Tangdhar - allowed POK.
1965 - When our forces were just outside Lahore, agreed to cease fire.
1971 _ Gave back everything including 96000 POW. Sham Simla Agreement.
1999 - Did not pursue Pakistanis across the LC and destroy them

I really do not know how is leaving enemy to fight for another day in Indian or Hindu tradition?

Rama did not leave Rawana but decimated him.

Krishna made it sure Jayadratha, Karna, Drona, Bhishma and Duryodhana are ruthlessly decimated

Then what is the lesson - Do not leave the snake by the name of Pakistan once defeated. Destroy and decimate it once and for all. Do not allow to survive them for Second Battle of Tarain...

This time it should be :

“चार बांस चौबीस गज, अंगुल अष्ट प्रमाण, ता ऊपर (Imran) सुल्तान है मत चुके चौहान।”

Do not leave them for another day....
Do you know what that painting is about?
 

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Canada removes mention of Sikh extremism, India fumes
The erasure of eight references to Sikh extremism and organisations and six references to Khalistan, the so-called homeland sought by some radical groups, came against the backdrop of reports that pressure groups in the Sikh community had threatened Canada’s ruling Liberal Party with dire consequences in an election year.
INDIA Updated: Apr 14, 2019 10:02 IST

Anirudh Bhattacharyya and Rezaul H Laskar
Hindustan Times, Toronto/New Delhi

The updated report has a note which states that while “outlining a threat, it must be clearly linked to an ideology rather than a community”(AP File)
The Canadian government has bowed to domestic political compulsions and completely scrubbed all references to Sikh and Khalistani extremism in its 2018 report on terrorist threats, much to the chagrin of India.

Indian officials are aghast at the perceived capitulation to pressure from some community groups in Canada, and described the updated version of the “2018 Public Report on the Terrorist Threat to Canada” as a “full retreat” by Ottawa. The updated version was released on Friday, about 24 hours before Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was scheduled to attend a Vasakhi parade, organised in Vancouver by the Khalsa Diwan Society, with national defence minister Harjit Sajjan.

The erasure of eight references to Sikh extremism and organisations and six references to Khalistan, the so-called homeland sought by some radical groups, came against the backdrop of reports that pressure groups in the Sikh community had threatened Canada’s ruling Liberal Party with dire consequences in an election year.

Officials from both countries familiar with developments acknowledged the new version of the report is the outcome of domestic political compulsions in Canada, especially efforts by political parties to woo the influential Indian and Sikh communities. The officials, who declined to be named as they weren’t authorised to speak to the media, acknowledged counter-terror and security cooperation at the level of officials is robust, but there is a gap as far as the higher level of Canada’s political leadership is concerned.

They traced the problem to several Indian-origin ministers in Canada.

“This is why we are seeing this dichotomy, of having cooperation at the level of officials that is not seen at the higher levels,” said an Indian official.

Sikh and Khalistani extremism figured in a meeting of the bilateral joint working group on counter-terrorism in Ottawa during March 26-27. A joint statement issued after the meeting said the two sides “discussed the reference for the first time to the threat from Khalistani extremism in Public Safety Canada’s 2018 annual report”.

Sikh and Khalistani extremism had figured for the first time in the report issued by Public Safety Canada in December 2018. The original report said Canada continues to face threats from “individuals inspired to commit violence based on other forms of extremism, including from...Sikh (Khalistani) extremists”. It added attacks by Khalistanis in Canada were extremely limited, but “some Canadians continue to support these extremist groups, including through financing”.

The updated report has a note which states that while “outlining a threat, it must be clearly linked to an ideology rather than a community”. It adds: “The Government will carefully select terminology that focuses on the intent or ideology. For example, as a first step, the Government will use the term: Extremists who support violent means to establish an independent state within India; rather than terminology that unintentionally impugns an entire religion.”

However, references to other religious groups remain in the amended report, including to Sunni and Shia extremism. The changes are restricted to the section originally titled Sikh/Khalistani extremism, now called “Extremists who Support Violent Means to Establish an Independent State Within India”.

Those who campaigned for deleting references to Sikh and Khalistani extremism reacted with satisfaction.

Sukhminder Singh Hansra, who is openly pro-Khalistan and heads a chapter of Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar), said he thanked the Canadian Sikh community for raising its “collective voice against the derogatory words” in the report. “As a result, the government of Canada realised their mistake and eliminated the words ‘Sikh (Khalistani)’. Though I express satisfaction over the change, concern remains under what circumstances did the Trudeau government include these defamatory, derogatory and hurtful words in the report...as they do not reflect Canadian values,” he said.

The officials cited above said matters hadn’t been helped by the lack of high-level visits between the two sides, especially after Trudeau’s controversial trip to India in February 2018. Despite the impact of that visit, New Delhi has been determined to push forward the bilateral relationship, Indian officials said.

Canada’s leadership appears to be “treading a fine line” as, on one hand, it wants to maintain ties with a growing economy such as India but, on the other hand, some sections continue wooing Khalistanis, who make up a minor segment of the overall Sikh community, Indian officials said. India has also pointed to the presence of Canadian leaders at “pro-Khalistan events” but the other side “has not been forthcoming” on this issue, the officials added
This guys is kinda desperate at this point, big scandal and too much pandering and dress up has annoyed people, most people expect them to be voted out.
 

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I don't know what is stopping IA from leveling Porkis to the ground. I have been lurking for a long time. Am tired of reading this doctrine war strategy bullshit. Just attack porkistan, they dont have ammunition to last more than a week. Fuck them hard.
A lot is being done; but below threshold of full scale war.
 

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Did anything happen at all last night or we were just doing psyops #pkmkb.
 

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राष्ट्रीय अन्वेषण अभिकरण ने 2017 में जम्मू-कश्मीर के #पुलवामा जिले के लेथपोरा गांव में केंद्रीय रिजर्व पुलिस बल(#CRPF) पर आतंकी हमले के सिलसिले में पांचवें आरोपी इरशाद अहमद रेशी को गिरफ्तार किया है।
 

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:playball:Nothing happened yesterday I think if something happened...then ispr will tell first
 

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:playball:Nothing happened yesterday I think if something happened...then ispr will tell first
ISPR and its related twitter accounts are under gag order. Please understand that Pakistani public is under massive pressure due to inflation and lack of jobs. Any negative news on military side can cause significant unrest in society.

Journalists do not last in Pakistan. A large number of journalists have been killed and the living ones receive death threats regularly. The only way to live is to toe the official line.
 

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Indians do not understand that Pakistan has no freedom of expression. Pakistan is a violent police state where a person can be arrested without warrant and killed in custody and nobody can dare blame any government organ.

Disappearances are common. Sometimes disappeared people come back (rare) but are so scared that keeping silent is better for them.
 

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The actions of Indian Army are security related; to stop illegal infiltration and anti-India jihad. There is no "war" as such being fought. BUT Pakistan airspace is still restricted and both militaries are still on alert. Internet service is still down in Pakistan occupied Kashmir.
 

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Indians do not understand that Pakistan has no freedom of expression. Pakistan is a violent police state where a person can be arrested without warrant and killed in custody and nobody can dare blame any government organ.

Disappearances are common. Sometimes disappeared people come back (rare) but are so scared that keeping silent is better for them.
I knw....but still....balakot strike was first reported by Pakistan.....
.......and we believe in work...but ispr do lip service......ispr has a good script writer too
But they don't have a good video editor though
 

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I knw....but still....balakot strike was first reported by Pakistan.....
.......and we believe in work...but ispr do lip service......ispr has a good script writer too
But they don't have a good video editor though
Balakot was a big event. The news from ISPR was also due to the fact that Pakistan was unprepared.

Remember IAF is also looking for opportunity to shoot down PAF planes. There have been two "events" involving PAF planes since Feb 27 which have been suppressed. Likely PAF lost two more fighters after Feb 27.
 
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