India Strikes Against Pakistani Terrorism 2019

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R-73 from the wreckage of mig 21

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1. Front control fins of R - 73
2. Movable back control fins and missile ending there (solid rocket motor exhaust).
3. Immovable fins of R - 77, plus biggest giveaway is that the missile is not ending after those fins.

Since, for loadout balance, asymmetrical loadout is extremely rare. We can safely assume that Mig21 Bison's mission load was either -
R73 - R77 - Fuel Tank at Centerline - R77 - R73
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R77 - R73 - Fuel Tank at Centerline - R73 - R77.

One R73 and one R77 is missing. We can safely assume that one R77 got lost due to initial BVR engagement, and at the ensuing dogfight, one R73 got up the ass of F - 16 :biggrin2:

One interesting thing is, IAF using R77 with Mig21 Bison even though Mig21's radar is not really either state-of-art or powerful.

So it's confirmed one R-73 is up Pakistani F-16's ass.
 

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It's possible that all previous defence ministers, National security advisors, foreign secretaries etc would have been consulted to glean what their thinking/reservations were at various times.
That would be the surest way to ensure failure and would defeat the very purpose of the need-to-know.

It's been documented only 6-7 people were in the know of the plan.
 

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That would be the surest way to ensure failure and would defeat the very purpose of the need-to-know.

It's been documented only 6-7 people were in the know of the plan.
"......................at various times.................................................."
 

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I think things have cooled down for good, as they should be. Many members in the forum are right to expect more retaliation against pak but I guess retaliation without any core objectives is what is hindering our response. I think we shouldn't expect anything even after the election as now, for most Indians the standard has been set, if they strike asymmetrically we will strike overtly highlighting what we have done in a measured manner.

We can't go all guns blazing just because we want to, a long term solution needs to be determined, core objectives identified, proper sequence of events needs to be followed. Prepare the economy at least 4-5 years in advanced, get a good military industrial complex established, gather intelligence for the purpose of a full fledged war and have indigenous manufacturing up to par. Even if our plan fails, we still at least have the knowledge that with our preparation and planning our losses will be minimal.
 

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I think things have cooled down for good, as they should be. Many members in the forum are right to expect more retaliation against pak but I guess retaliation without any core objectives is what is hindering our response. I think we shouldn't expect anything even after the election as now, for most Indians the standard has been set, if they strike asymmetrically we will strike overtly highlighting what we have done in a measured manner.

We can't go all guns blazing just because we want to, a long term solution needs to be determined, core objectives identified, proper sequence of events needs to be followed. Prepare the economy at least 4-5 years in advanced, get a good military industrial complex established, gather intelligence for the purpose of a full fledged war and have indigenous manufacturing up to par. Even if our plan fails, we still at least have the knowledge that with our preparation and planning our losses will be minimal.
There still are plenty of 'objectives' - several other terror training camps in Paki land!!!
 

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We have to admit that this baba has some strong source...even now no news channels have news of Parrikars demise.

Editing: Now news is breaking on channels. RIP Parrikar sir.

Baba is some serious guy.. he tweeted this half n hour before.
If you remember his tweet about Pinaka test he made a mistake and said it was tested in Odisa. Later ANI also made same mistake and reported test site as Odisa.

I believe he must be some defense reporter in ANI. ANI is the only source who is getting info before every other news channel.
 

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I think things have cooled down for good, as they should be. Many members in the forum are right to expect more retaliation against pak but I guess retaliation without any core objectives is what is hindering our response. I think we shouldn't expect anything even after the election as now, for most Indians the standard has been set, if they strike asymmetrically we will strike overtly highlighting what we have done in a measured manner.

We can't go all guns blazing just because we want to, a long term solution needs to be determined, core objectives identified, proper sequence of events needs to be followed. Prepare the economy at least 4-5 years in advanced, get a good military industrial complex established, gather intelligence for the purpose of a full fledged war and have indigenous manufacturing up to par. Even if our plan fails, we still at least have the knowledge that with our preparation and planning our losses will be minimal.
beg to disagree.. our airspace was violated and it needs to be replied in same coin. Isn't this a fair objective.

Indias GDP is 10 times of porks so the economy of war sustainability is in our side. Hope I dont sound like a war mongerer but I simply want the score to be settled..

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Yes but what does that accomplish, just a minor hiccup in Pak's cadet count which gets filled up quick. If we are to blow tango bases then it needs be on a regular basis and not a one-off event.
Who said one off? If India clears the terror infrastructure, then it might take Pakis another year or two to rebuild it.....then India should clear the swamp again!
The idea is to preemptively drain the swamp and not wait for the jihadi scum to flow into India!!
 

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