India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

[BabaKhalbali]

I will vote for Mudi ji's 56 inch Bra as well in 2024.. because the alternative is without a Bra..
Just coping here

Free the Bra campaign will be dissapointed on hearing this

 

[jai jaganath]

Fuck Modi, I don't understand why we aren't going full attack mode on them. Everyone is calling Hindus fascist and the next Nazis,we might as well become it. We should start sending thousands of Hindus from UP and Bihar to the most radical areas of J and K with licensed machine guns and very basic training and let them take matters into their own hands. There is no point in seducing Kashmiri Muslims into believing in India, Muslims of Indian descent always live in Pakistan. It doesn't matter if they live in Pakistan the geographical entitiy, Kashmir or anywhere in India. Every single Muslim will try his best to destroy the Hindu identity of India whenever he gets the opportunity, no matter where he lives or what he does. Our 56 inch breast is busy distributing laptops, scholarships and keeping Kashmiri Muslims alive.

Article 370 cannot be abolished in the parliament, article 370 still exists because Kashmir is Muslim majority. It will truly be abolished when Kashmir becomes Hindu majority, these low lives immediately become docile when their population becomes less than 25%. What Amit Shah and Modi did in the parliament on 5/8/19 meant nothing unless it is backed on the ground with radical changes. Why did we even cut their internet for so long? During the Internet cut we should have commited war crimes that would have put the fear of lord Shiva in them, so that they wouldn't dare to do another attack. They should have been beaten, tortured, killed mercilessly and shell shocked by the sheer amount of violence that Rashtriya rifles commited against them that they never would have thought about touching another Hindu. But what we actually did was Masterstroke intelligence operations and masterstroke encounters following Geneva convention to kill a couple dozen disposable terrorists. We might as well gift Kashmir valley to Pakistan and save some Indian army lives if we are going to waste or time following rules because they are not following these rules.

Sorry what u r saying is against ek hath me computer aur dusre me Quran

 

[jai jaganath]

Are bhai election abhi 2024 main hai tab tak sehan karna padega..

Use ghanta kuch hoga what happened in 2019
These assholes don't have courage to fight even the enemies enter our land
Mudiji will be worse than nehru
I feel sad when people say fascist nazi oppressor anti Muslim etc used for that guy he doesn't even has 1% of what people talking

 

[Waanar]

Oh, it's that time of the month again.
What you guys need to understand is a country as large as India will crash and burn within a month if it starts enacting reactionary policies dictated by the actions of a few hundred terrorists.
@GaudaNaresh can explain the current situation better than I can but rest assured, if you guys expect a bureaucratic dinosaur like our government to move it's ass for what would be the death of two or three men, you have another thing coming.
Build up your street power.
Organize your society and galvanize their dominance. BJPigs are taking the larger picture into account and do NOT care for you as an individual.

It's going to be at least 3 more years before we get some much deserved catharsis and relief for our poor hearts. Till then, carry on with your lil insignificant self and try to make a collective which will save your ass when BJP decides you're one fat, yummy lamb to be sacrificed on the altar of politics to the god of the long game.

 

[nongaddarliberal]

They didn't even protect red fort at the heart of the Capital from Khalistanis, aren't doing jackshit in Punjab, zero consequences for Mamta in Bengal for outright massacres against Hindus, and you expect them to give a damn about what's happening in Kashmir, for the sake of a non existent Kashmiri Pandit vote.

Article 370 removal was a nice big cherry for political gain, which they didn't even follow through with by not overhauling the school system and madrassahs which are still filled with anti India mullahs even now.

We have the examples of BJP states like MP and Karnataka where there are zero consequences for muzzies. All Mota bhai and baba know how to do is take credit for Yogi's work in that department, while simultaneously trying to undermine him. Even the 2002 response had nothing to do with Modi. His clean chit is actually deserved. It was common Hindus who had had enough and overwhelmed the state apparatus through sheer numbers. We are foolishly giving credit to Modi for that.

Every week we hear about Hindus getting killed and/or raped in BD and pakistan. Where's CAA? And why is there a 2014 cutoff date STILL?

We need to concentrate on an actual awakening of Hindus on what the threats are and what we need to demand, forcing BJP to do those things to get votes. It is not an ideological party in the least. There is no passion or sympathy towards Hindus in that cesspit.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

This is their rock bottom.
They won't sink any further unless you're breaking new grounds. One of our closest defence partners are the Israelis and the Indian military can easily get a case study of their approach on sanitizing their lands.

As of yet though, I bet the government is waiting for the inevitable gulf collapse before pushing forth with any radical step.

There's also a political motive here.
Sacrifice the Hindus like sitting ducks so BJP keeps getting votes.
I wouldn't expect any significant change to the status quo before 2024 elections guys.

And such a case study will yeild two results :

1. Cannot equate effective security policies & logistics of a state the size of manipur to that of India
2. Terrorism in Israel is not down to 0 and Kashmir over the last 3 years has seen similar levels of terrorist incidents as israel.

So what exactly do you want ?

 

[cereal killer]

Thing is on TV there's basically not a lot of coverage of it. Basically business as usual crap. Maulana Modi can basically sit tight unless another Uri or Pulwama happens.. Nobody will grill him when couple of soldiers die every day. Media is silent. People believe in ghante ka 56 inch.. Mera Modi, mera pappu, mera Mota bhai.. Do takke ka fake nationalism. Paxtan army should be over the moon with current status quo.

 

[nongaddarliberal]

At this rate I have no hope that we will remain even 60% by 2050 as a demographic. We need to prepare for that contingency rather than holding hope that we'll remain 75% through muh sanghi gormint.

We had a nice advantage in 1947 when both the muzzie population was only 7% and christian population was negligible. Borders were protected by the army, so no invasions anymore, and we were a united country, so no infighting between various useless hermit kingdoms. We Hindus had a splendid opportunity to start fresh, something our ancestors would have envied. But we ruined even that in 75 years due to secularism and sarva dharma sambar. Ultimately it's our own fault, especially the generation of our parents and grandparents who had witnessed partition horrors and still retained this bhaichara bakchodi, voted on caste repeatedly, and voted in secular, even marxist parties repeatedly. Now we expect semi literates in BJP to know what the fuck they're doing against a sophisticated global and domestic cabal.

Happy belated independence day.

 

[Waanar]

And such a case study will yeild two results :

1. Cannot equate effective security policies & logistics of a state the size of manipur to that of India
2. Terrorism in Israel is not down to 0 and Kashmir over the last 3 years has seen similar levels of terrorist incidents as israel.

So what exactly do you want ?

I'm talking about settlers in Kashmir.
And Kashmir valley, the main hotbed of separatism is almost the same size as Manipur if not smaller.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Fuck Modi, I don't understand why we aren't going full attack mode on them. Everyone is calling Hindus fascist and the next Nazis,we might as well become it. We should start sending thousands of Hindus from UP and Bihar to the most radical areas of J and K with licensed machine guns and very basic training and let them take matters into their own hands. There is no point in seducing Kashmiri Muslims into believing in India, Muslims of Indian descent always live in Pakistan. It doesn't matter if they live in Pakistan the geographical entitiy, Kashmir or anywhere in India. Every single Muslim will try his best to destroy the Hindu identity of India whenever he gets the opportunity, no matter where he lives or what he does. Our 56 inch breast is busy distributing laptops, scholarships and keeping Kashmiri Muslims alive.

Article 370 cannot be abolished in the parliament, article 370 still exists because Kashmir is Muslim majority. It will truly be abolished when Kashmir becomes Hindu majority, these low lives immediately become docile when their population becomes less than 25%. What Amit Shah and Modi did in the parliament on 5/8/19 meant nothing unless it is backed on the ground with radical changes. Why did we even cut their internet for so long? During the Internet cut we should have commited war crimes that would have put the fear of lord Shiva in them, so that they wouldn't dare to do another attack. They should have been beaten, tortured, killed mercilessly and shell shocked by the sheer amount of violence that Rashtriya rifles commited against them that they never would have thought about touching another Hindu. But what we actually did was Masterstroke intelligence operations and masterstroke encounters following Geneva convention to kill a couple dozen disposable terrorists. We might as well gift Kashmir valley to Pakistan and save some Indian army lives if we are going to waste or time following rules because they are not following these rules.

1. Committing war crimes never yeilds a positive outcome, unless you are willing to genocide ALL of the targetted community. For reference, see what aam abdul afghans feel about US after suffering war crimes attrocities there for 20 years

2. We are not USA, who can just shit out billions of dollars at will. Your tens of thousands of armed biharis- who btw can't even uproot muslim fanaticism from bihar itself and is seeing border villages being taken over by muslims - will require paisa paisa paisaaaaaaaaa. So where will this funding come from ?

3. Attitudes like this is why the muslims have been able to rule over us for so long while never being more than 10% of the land - hindus lack loyalty and have an 'avatar complex' : either the saviour of hindus has to be sri krishna himself and do the impossible and lift gandhamadhan on pinkie, or its time to backstab them.

This govt has dealt with kashmir terrorism in 6 years better than the preceeding govt has in 25 by an entire order of magnitude - its performance is LITERALLY on par with israel and behind only China in containing a restive province's fanaticism anti-national policies.

So what more do you want ?

 

[GaudaNaresh]

I'm talking about settlers in Kashmir.
And Kashmir valley, the main hotbed of separatism is almost the same size as Manipur if not smaller.

the doorway has been opened for settlers into kashmir. But it needs an economic engine to attract the settlers in the first place.
And that is what will take time.

 

[Vinash]

At this rate I have no hope that we will remain even 60% by 2050 as a demographic. We need to prepare for that contingency rather than holding hope that we'll remain 75% through muh sanghi gormint.

We had a nice advantage in 1947 when both the muzzie population was only 7% and christian population was negligible. Borders were protected by the army, so no invasions anymore, and we were a united country, so no infighting between various useless hermit kingdoms. We Hindus had a splendid opportunity to start fresh, something our ancestors would have envied. But we ruined even that in 75 years due to secularism and sarva dharma sambar. Ultimately it's our own fault, especially the generation of our parents and grandparents who had witnessed partition horrors and still retained this bhaichara bakchodi, voted on caste repeatedly, and voted in secular, even marxist parties repeatedly. Now we expect semi literates in BJP to know what the fuck they're doing against a sophisticated global and domestic cabal.

Happy belated independence day.

Agreed on everything apart from the Demography part.

That's not how demographics works. H's will always remain atleast 70% of India.

But yeah we did screw up a golden opportunity after 1947. Now, it'll take a lot of sacrifices to course correct.

 

[Vinash]

Collapse of Pakistan collapse of gulf collapse of china are all meme terms.

Pakistan has hit rock bottom and yet here we are dealing with them. What if the gulf gets nukes tommorow.

This is just cope used nowadays by IT cell wala to justify 56 inch bras inaction. Kuch bada hone wala hai wait Karo time will be ripe.

This is Pakistani level of delusion if you ask. The supposed time frame of this collapse would be matched by our population stagnation muslim majority states and heavy Christianization of South.

India would itself be deep in shit if things go the way they are as of now.

There is no ideal time just opportunities.

This collapse of Gulf rhetoric makes me laugh.

Qatar's population is merely 30 Lakh. They have enough billions already in investments worldwide that they'll live well even if they stop working today.

Same is the case with Saudi on a bigger scale. The reforms in Saudi are being done for a reason.

 

[Waanar]

This collapse of Gulf rhetoric makes me laugh.

Qatar's population is merely 30 Lakh. They have enough billions already in investments worldwide that they'll live well even if they stop working today.

Same is the case with Saudi on a bigger scale. The reforms in Saudi are being done for a reason.

Vision 2030 is a joke and Arab spring/Iran/Houthis/coups are a thing.

Gulf will collapse and as America withdraws further from the global stage, it will accelerate.

America has already shown disinterest in engaging Iran directly even when it kinetically and directly targets it's military bases in ME.

Their inaction telegraphs intent. They wish to withdraw.

 

[Vinash]

Vision 2030 is a joke and Arab spring/Iran/Houthis/coups are a thing.

Gulf will collapse and as American withdraws further from the global stage, it will accelerate.

America has already shown disinterest in engaging Iran directly even when it kinetically and directly targets it's military bases in ME.

Their inaction telegraphs intent. They wish to withdraw.

What if Russia steps in?

Have you been ignoring the recent bonhomme between Gulf and Russia?

 

[DEV1729]

There is a simple medicine for this disease in kashmir but our sikular folks dont have the courage to privide relief to indoan taxpayers.

 

[Waanar]

What if Russia steps in?

Have you been ignoring the recent bonhomme between Gulf and Russia?

Russia has enough on it's plate as it is. Their demography is failing and if not course corrected, they won't have enough men to adequately govern and defend their vast lands within the next decade. Syria is a Russian experiment of Middle East interventionalism and let's be honest, it's been a game changer for Assad but that's only because of their terrible starting point and low bar for end state.
Turkey's control over Northern Syria is absolute (to the point where the local currency there is now Lira) and even with Iranian and Roos support, Assad has come to a standstill and is unable to take back territories from FSA and was forced to negotiate with the Kurds.

If your standard of "game changer alliance" is ejection of all enemies from your territory by support of your allies, it's still a stalemate disaster.
If the standard is "At least our leader hasn't eaten shit and died to an airstrike or mob lynching like Gaddafi", Russia's doing splendid.

Let's also take into consideration that the main ME player Russia is getting buddy buddy with is Iran, the sworn enemy of the gulf.

 

[Vinash]

Russia has enough on it's plate as it is. Their demography is failing and if not course corrected, they won't have enough men to adequately govern and defend their vast lands within the next decade. Syria is a Russian experiment of Middle East interventionalism and let's be honest, it's been a game changer for Assad but that's only because of their terrible starting point and low bar for end state.
Turkey's control over Northern Syria is absolute (to the point where the local currency there is now Lira) and even with Iranian and Roos support, Assad has come to a standstill and is unable to take back territories from FSA and was forced to negotiate with the Kurds.

If your standard of "game changer alliance" is ejection of all enemies from your territory by support of your allies, it's still a stalemate disaster.
If the standard is "At least our leader hasn't eaten shit and died to an airstrike or mob lynching like Gaddafi", Russia's doing splendid.

Let's also take into consideration that the main ME player Russia is getting buddy buddy with is Iran, the sworn enemy of the gulf.

Makes sense.

Also, do you truly believe that Saudi-Iran can't make peace?

I can understand them having small conflicts but do you really think they'll sacrifice all the material wealth they've amassed over decades over sectarian conflicts instead of making peace?

 

[Waanar]

Makes sense.

Also, do you truly believe that Saudi-Iran can't make peace?

I can understand them having small conflicts but do you really think they'll sacrifice all the material wealth they've amassed over decades over sectarian conflicts instead of making peace?

They can't. Iran's invested too much into the dream of ruling over the ME and it's not unrealistic.
It has a really defendable terrain, lots of oil, the best port placements, okayish demographics and some REAL strategic depth on it's surrounding countries (Iranian sponsored militias who fought ISIS back in 2017 are now bigwig members of Iraqi Parliament).
Iran's main strength is their intel agencies.
The way they've created and sponsored Hezbollah, PMUs and Assad friendly militias should be a case study on hybrid warfare and even under sanctions, they've managed to sustain a MIC, surprisingly few domestic terrorist incidents and frequently project power across the continent without getting complacent regarding their own weaknesses, keep trying to develop nukes and have full political support on what must've seemed like a national suicide by launching missiles at US bases before it was done.

They have the capability AND the intent.

I'm not saying they'll necessarily realize their dream but there's no doubt in my mind that they'll try.

Saudis are Saudis. They'll get slaughtered if an ally doesn't step in.
I'm sure some allies will step in but the resulting war would wreck their fragile economy.
Iran, on the other hand, has little to lose in terms of economy after being under US sanctions and FATF blacklist for.. I don't even remember how long.

 

[cereal killer]

We should kill a dozen Porki army men in space of 3-4 days to even call it yes we are responding. Otheriwse it's all for nothing. We keep reacting or Kadi ninida & they will keep drawing the first blood.
Kashmir is as unstable & unsafe as ever. Must be horrible for Hindus in the state to do jobs in valley & those posted in far flung areas are on God's mercy. Things were not that bad in last decade or so clearly.