India offers Akash SAM systems to Vietnam

[SANITY]

NEW DELHI: India is now actively discussing the possible sale of the indigenously developed Akash surface-to-air missile systems+ to Vietnam, even as the two countries steadily crank up their bilateral military ties with a watchful eye on a confrontational China in the Asia-Pacific region.

With Beijing continuing to thwart New Delhi's bid to join the 48-nation Nuclear Suppliers Group and get Jaish-e-Muhammed chief Masood Azhar+ designated a terrorist by the UN, while also stepping up its naval forays into the Indian Ocean Region, India is responding by fast-tracking military ties with countries in China's own backyard. The expanding "strategic and military partnership" with Japan and Vietnam, in particular, has emerged a major thrust area.

Sources say the discussions under way with Vietnam on the Akash area defence missiles, which have an interception range of 25-km against hostile aircraft, helicopters and drones, come after India earlier offered BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles+ and Varunastra anti-submarine torpedoes to the country.

India, of course, will also begin training Vietnamese fighter pilots on its Sukhoi-30MKI fighter jets from this year, much like it has been tutoring sailors from that country on the intricate art of operating Kilo-class submarines for the last three years, as reported earlier by TOI.

Defence minister Manohar Parrikar says Vietnam "is a close friend" and several initiatives are in progress to further boost bilateral defence cooperation, ranging from help in upgrade of military equipment of the Vietnamese forces to training them on fighters and submarines.

All this comes in the backdrop of India and Vietnam deciding to "elevate" their "strategic partnership", which was established in July 2007, into a "comprehensive strategic partnership" during PM Narendra Modi's visit to Hanoi in September 2016.

Sources said Vietnam has shown "deep interest" in the acquisition of Akash missiles, asking for transfer of technology and joint production of the air defence system.

India, however, thinks it has to be an incremental process, with an initial off-the-shelf purchase followed by transfer of technology in maintenance and other areas.

"Talks are in progress to arrive at a common plan. It's relatively easier on the Akash front since the missile system is 96% indigenous," said a source. The two defence secretaries, incidentally, are slated to meet soon to identify the military projects and equipment under the new $500 million defence line of credit announced by Modi in September.

But it will be more complicated to sell the 290-km range BrahMos — or transfer technology — to Vietnam because the missiles are produced here under a joint Indo-Russian venture. BrahMos missiles still have an import content of over 60% from Russia.

On other fronts, however, India is fast expanding its military training, technology sharing, joint exercises, visits and exchange of experts with Vietnam. Faced with a belligerent China, Vietnam too has been strengthening its military capabilities by inducting Kilo-class submarines and Sukhoi fighters from Russia, both of which have been operated by Indian armed forces for years.

It was in 2013 that India had kicked off the training of a large number of Vietnamese sailors in "comprehensive underwater combat operations'' in Navy submarine school INS Satavahana, Visakhapatnam.
Now, the training on Sukhois is all set to take off.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...l-military-relations/articleshow/56410196.cms

 

[bipin]

It is not hostility. It is just good business.

China provides Pakistan with subs for free? NO. For $$$.
China loans billions to Pakistan for CPEC for charity ? For $$$ (investments will yields returns)
China builds artificial islands in SCS for tourism ? For $$$ (protecting trade routes and oil reserves)

China cant upset the balance of power in the subcontinent or in the Indian Ocean Region. It is just milking Pakistan's economy/ its obsession of nukes/ its fear.

There are only economic interests. Its high time India pursues such deals. Many countries feel China's aggression which makes SCS a lucrative market. Not only it establishes good relations between them and India, it will help defuse the situation and check China's supremacy.

 

[roma]

hahahahhaah india is changing .... and not too early too
... great !!!!!!

we should also supply Philippines under contract with usa who will pay us and then phil an later pay usa

also we should consider supply to indonesia and malaysia , Brunei , who can pay without usa's help


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[bipin]

@roma Being sarcastic or serious ?

 

[square]

hahahahhaah india is changing .... and not too early too
... great !!!!!!

we should also supply Philippines under contract with usa who will pay us and then phil an later pay usa

also we should consider supply to indonesia and malaysia , Brunei , who can pay without usa's help


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defence is a big industry , provide jobs to millions....and india is a country of billions..

 

[pmaitra]

Weapons sales are supposed to earn revenue to the country. In this case, since this is a first of its kind, I would not mind if India gave the Akash missile system at a zero-profit-zero-loss basis. It will help India get foothold in the international weapons market.

 

[tejas warrior]

Weapons sales are supposed to earn revenue to the country. In this case, since this is a first of its kind, I would not mind if India gave the Akash missile system at a zero-profit-zero-loss basis. It will help India get foothold in the international weapons market.

Sorry Sir, I don't understand why we are ready to offer our equipment at zero profit, we need to understand its value.

A low profit can be understood with very friendly countries for strategic reasons, but zero profit do not make sense.

Akash will be anyway one of cheapest Air Defence System anyone can buy in International market.

 

[pmaitra]

Sorry Sir, I don't understand why we are ready to offer our equipment at zero profit, we need to understand its value.

A low profit can be understood with very friendly countries for strategic reasons, but zero profit do not make sense.

Akash will be anyway one of cheapest Air Defence System anyone can buy in International market.

I am not sure that we are ready to offer the Akash system for zero-profit. What I said is a personal opinion, not something that the government has decided.

Just to clarify, I suggested zero-profit-zero-loss sale.

India needs to grab a share of the international weapons market. India is way behind some of the major world powers when it comes to exporting weapons, such as missile systems. Offering the Akash system as a zero-profit-zero-loss sale would make it easier for India to get a customer.

Also, notice how PRC gave fighters to Pakistan on easy terms, and in return got interest from other countries. India should look to do the same. Once we have established ourselves in the market, even if it is for a certain type of missile system, we will be able to generate profit from further sales.

Also, major countries, like the USA, Russian Federation, France, UK, Israel, all show flexibility and are ready to sweeten the deal to secure a contract.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

India needs to grab a share of the international weapons market.

Some good news is that defence exports have been multiplied by about 6 times ($76 millions to $450 millions) and self reliance degree (in cost terms) has been boosted to 40% from 25%.
Parrikar has target to achieve 70% self reliance by 2020 and $2 billion weapon exports for next term (2018-19).

If we really succeed in exporting $2 billions in a single term, we may break into top 10 exporters for sure.
Remember that thread? soon will cross 500 replies.
http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...zation-and-exports-watch-thread.74433/page-22

 

[pmaitra]

Some good news is that defence exports have been multiplied by about 6 times ($76 millions to $450 millions) and self reliance degree (in cost terms) has been boosted to 40% from 25%.
Parrikar has target to achieve 70% self reliance by 2020 and $2 billion weapon exports for next term (2018-19).

If we really succeed in exporting $2 billions in a single term, we may break into top 10 exporters for sure.
Remember that thread? soon will cross 500 replies.
http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...zation-and-exports-watch-thread.74433/page-22

Also, India has a reputation when it comes to launching satellites to the polar orbit. There are only two countries that commercially launch satellites to the polar orbit - India and Russia. Therefore, India could benefit from this reputation.