India Launched Surgical Strikes Across LoC: DGMO 29/09/2016

[Kunal Biswas]

Indian Army don`t use S-23 artillery, Its not in its inventory nor ammunition.

But it has 160mm mortars which Indian Army used at Kargil with huge success.

Not ours, But well written description of M66

We have upper hand even in mortars.

Sir using a s-23 180mm artillery can keep them silent for 2 months.
What's your take on this????

 

[Indx TechStyle]

If Pakistan conducted a surgical strike, it would become part of Indian textbooks: COAS Gen RaheelCOAS Gen Raheel shakes hands with tribal elders.–Photo courtesy: ISPR
Chief of Army Staff (COAS) Gen Raheel Sharif on Thursday termed India's 'surgical strike' a 'drama'.

"If Pakistan were to conduct a surgical strike, it would become a chapter in Indian textbooks," the army chief said.

The army chief, addressing members of a tribal jirga in Khyber Agency's Bara tehsil said the Pakistan Army is "the strongest force against terrorism".

"They have eliminated terrorism from Pakistan's tribal areas," he said.

"I kept the morale of Pakistan Army up in my time, but I will hand over the reigns to the next chief on Nov 29," he told members of the jirga.

"We have fought the menace of terrorism together over the years," the army chief said. "It has woven us eternally in an unbreakable bond."

"I hope that the relationship between the army and the nation will continue, even after I say goodbye to the Pakistan Army," he said.

Talking about his post-retirement plans, he said he would like to dedicate his life for the welfare of the families of slain soldiers.

The COAS is set to retire Nov 29 and is spending his last week as army chief on farewell visits around the country.

Tensions between Pakistan and India are running high as the army chief's tenure comes to an end, with an escalation in ceasefire violations along the Line of Control and Working Boundary. On Wednesday, three soldiers and 10 civilians were killed in shelling by Indian troops near the LoC.

Cross-border firing appears to have become a new normal following an alleged 'surgical strike' by India, unrest in Kashmir and the Uri army base attack in September.

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi stepped up a drive to isolate Pakistan diplomatically after the Uri army base attack in which 19 Indian soldiers were killed. Hours after the attack occurred, Indian Home Minister Rajnath Singh termed Pakistan a 'terrorist state' and accused Pakistan of involvement.

The Uri attack occurred days before Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was set to address the United Nations General Assembly regarding Indian human rights violations in held Kashmir.

Following the attack, India claimed it had conducted a cross-border 'surgical strike' against 'launch pads of terror' in Azad Jammu and Kashmir — a claim Pakistan has strongly rejected.

Pakistan maintains that India is attempting to divert the world's attention away from atrocities committed by government forces in India-held Kashmir.

Pakistan and India have, most recently, locked horns over Kashmir since Indian forces stepped up a crackdown against protesters after Hizbul Mujahideen commander Burhan Wani was killed by government forces in July.

Bs yahi sunna baki reh gaya tha.

@SREEKAR @aditya10r @Akask kumar @republic_roi97 @Bornubus

 

[republic_roi97]

If Pakistan conducted a surgical strike, it would become part of Indian textbooks: COAS Gen RaheelCOAS Gen Raheel shakes hands with tribal elders.–Photo courtesy: ISPR
Chief of Army Staff (COAS) Gen Raheel Sharif on Thursday termed India's 'surgical strike' a 'drama'.

Bs yahi sunna baki reh gaya tha.

@SREEKAR @aditya10r @Akask kumar @republic_roi97 @Bornubus

They just bark, talk, spit and repeat, good for nothing ******s.

 

[aditya g]

Let's not post paki propaganda please

 

[mayfair]

Let's not post paki propaganda please

Such a simple fact seems to elude so many members here.

 

[Bornubus]

ROFL some Cyas voted for no 2 "No India should be a peaceful Nation"

 

[Bornubus]

What fat Raheel meant is the cross border Raids by SSG which Pakis denies while India calls is BAT action. Surgical strike/ Raids do not necessarily means action against Terrorists (in case Indian soldiers were beheaded well within our territory not once but several times since 1980s)

 

[TPFscopes]

Mumbai terror attacks carried out by group based in Pakistan: EX-Pakistan NSA

Highlights
The 26/11 attack is a classic trans-border terrorist event: Mahmud Ali Durrani
Hafiz Saeed has no utility, we should act against him
Former Pakistan National Security Adviser Mahmud Ali Durrani has admitted that 2008 Mumbai terror attacks+ were carried out by a terror group based in Pakistan.

At the same time, Durrani, however, said the Pakistani government had no role in the Mumbai attacks.

Durrani was speaking at a conference on combating terrorism at the Institute of Defence Studies and Analysis in Delhi.

"26/11 Mumbai strike, carried out by a terror group based in Pakistan, was a classic trans-border terrorist event", he added.

The former Pakistan NSA also hit out at JUD chief Hafiz Saeed.

"Hafiz Saeed has no utility, we should act against him," Durrani said.

India had earlier this month asked Pakistan to reinvestigate the 2008 Mumbai terror attack case+ and put on trial Jammat-ud-Dawah chief Hafiz Saeed who is currently under house arrest in Lahore under the anti-terrorism law.

India had made the fresh demand in a reply to Pakistan's request to send 24 Indian witnesses to record their statements in the case.

The Pakistan government on January 30 had put Saeed and the four leaders of JuD and Falah-e-Insaniat under house arrest in Lahore under the country's anti-terrorism act.

Saeed, who carries a reward of $10 million, was also put under house arrest after Mumbai terror attacks in November 2008 but he was freed by court in 2009.

 

[Mikesingh]

...in case Indian soldiers were beheaded well within our territory not once but several times since 1980s

You may be aware that we have beheaded a number of Pork soldiers too. It's a tit for tat that's going on. They publicize this to raise the sagging morale of their troops and terror mercenaries. We don't!

 

[Mikesingh]

At the same time, Durrani, however, said the Pakistani government had no role in the Mumbai attacks.

Half truths as usual. The Pak Army especially the ISI was complicit in the Mumbai pogrom as well as all other terror attacks that have taken place on Indian soil till this day.

It's obvious he'll never mention the involvement of the ISI or the Paki Army or else he may be beheaded in the Land of the Pure or what we call Denialstan once he gets back!! No one is allowed to speak the truth in Pakistan. If anyone does, its curtains for him!

 

[pringles]

Half truths as usual. The Pak Army especially the ISI was complicit in the Mumbai pogrom as well as all other terror attacks that have taken place on Indian soil till this day.

It's obvious he'll never mention the involvement of the ISI or the Paki Army or else he may be beheaded in the Land of the Pure or what we call Denialstan once he gets back!! No one is allowed to speak the truth in Pakistan. If anyone does, its curtains for him!

The joke still is that us Indians are still waiting for validation form Pakistani people to say that "yes 26/11 was a Pakistani operation". Don't we know that already? As long as we are convinced, why are we obsessed with getting a confession out of them? just go in and hammer them.

Ajit Doval said the best thing during a speech when he said "The Indian government carried out the biggest deception of its own people by pretending to be angry after the 26/11 attacks, while diplomatic cables were already sent to US and Pakistan to tell that India is not going to take any military action, but just some muscle flexing for domestic consumption". After that, we have done nothing to remedy that situation. 9 years have gone, still we are sending them proofs.

Still there is a new wave of terror in Kashmir, stone pelting, soldiers being ambushed. BJP too busy in campaigning for UP elections. Parrikar busy meeting foreign defense contractors and Indian diplomatic community busy begging USA not to reduce the quota of H1B Visas, while we give Most Favored Nation status to Pakistan and import potatoes and onions from them.

How can we expect others to take us seriously, when we ourselves are a joke?

 

[Bornubus]

You may be aware that we have beheaded a number of Pork soldiers too. It's a tit for tat that's going on. They publicize this to raise the sagging morale of their troops and terror mercenaries. We don't!

Thats gives a significant edge to Pakis in Psychological Warfare keeping the morale down of millions of Indians.

 

[sthf]

Thats gives a significant edge to Pakis in Psychological Warfare keeping the morale down of millions of Indians.

I'd like to disagree with this. It fuels their bravado not morale and if Kargil is seen as an example, their trash talking officers fail to keep up the morale under fire.

Senseless bravado of killing Hindus turned into hot air right in front of the jawans.

 

[Bornubus]

I'd like to disagree with this. It fuels their bravado not morale and if Kargil is seen as an example, their trash talking officers fail to keep up the morale under fire.

Senseless bravado of killing Hindus turned into hot air right in front of the jawans.

I am talking about Indian morale.

 

[mayfair]

How can we expect others to take us seriously, when we ourselves are a joke?

And my good sir, thereby hangs the tale.

We are a joke, because we as the people and the society are a joke.

We people happily employ Bangladeshis for menial and other work and then rant and rant about illegal Bangladeshis over running the country.

We moan about high vegetable and commodity prices and demand that government bring them down via imports from Pakistan.

We flock to the movie theatres to watch garbage such as Bajrangi Bhaijaan, Sultan, Raees and Dangal and moan about government not doing enough to cut ties with Pakistan or deal with pro-Paki voices in the Indian society.

We happily employ the Kashmiri stone pelters in shops/universities/organisations all over the country and then rant about GoI not doing enough to curb them in J&K.

We happily invite separatists, seditionists, terrorists, anarchists, breaking-India-forces into our universities and schools and then rant at GoI for "suppressing their fundamental rights"

We refuse to tidy up after ourselves, toss rubbish and garbage all over the streets and then rant about Swachh bharat being a damp squib.

We use the Govt. constructed toilets as warehouses and godaam and then moan about lack of sanitary facilities.

People talk about listening to current and ex-servicemen on what's best for the security of the country and how to tackle terror. Fair enough. But when you see these very people who are supposed to be knowledgeable and "patriotic" ally themselves with AAP and Track thoo (who are one of the most if not THEmost virulent anti-India lot), and ranting against the government for surgical strikes, for "communalising Indo-Pak relations", plebiscite in Kashmir, one starts questioning their wisdom and their commitment to the nation.

I also realised that it's not just us who are a joke and/or the butt of all the jokes.

The almighty US continues to molly coddle Pakistan despite losing billions and lives in the futile war in Afghanistan. Heck they found Bin Laden and his harem happily fornicating in the middle of a Paki airbase- but the funds and wine and dine continues to flow. The Brits are no different.

Amreekis continued to transfer sensitive technology to China, despite being warned of the pitfalls. Japan continued to pump in money in China despite being aware of the hatred the PRC government has for them and now look at them.

Either we do not understand diplomacy, or the entire farce called diplomacy is a bloody joke.

 

[Bornubus]

Sir using a s-23 180mm artillery can keep them silent for 2 months.
What's your take on this????

These are logistics nightmare, low rate of fire thus require in good Numbers to be effective (volly fire) and will take months to operationally deploy in plains let alone in mountainous areas.


Also, i doubt this was ever inducted in Army but only Wikipedia fanboy page rumors.

 

[sthf]

I am talking about Indian morale.

Then you are possibly right on this one.

 

[Hemu Vikram Aditya]

Why is this thread still going on

 

[lcafanboy]

India must conduct two surgical strikes in a week: Defence experts
By PTI | Published: 06th March 2017 11:06 AM |

Last Updated: 06th March 2017 11:06 AM |
NEW DELHI: In the aftermath of the Tral encounter which ended in South Kashmir on Saturday, Defence expert Wing Commander (Retd.) Praful Bakshi on Monday said retaliating when attacks have happened is a wrong policy, adding that at least two surgical strikes in a week should be done by India.

"We must retreat in their area and show that Azad Kashmir (Azad Kashmir) is our area and we will take it. At least two surgical strikes in a week should be done by India," Wing Commander (Retd.) Bakshi told ANI.

"The government said that they will take appropriate steps but that does not mean that they will increase the security officers. This is a wrong policy that we will not attack but only respond when attacks have happened," he added.

Echoing similar sentiments, another Defence Expert Major General (Retd.) P.K. Sehgal extended support to Army Chief Bipin Rawat for his strict action message that those who would help the militants would be punished.

"If these things are happening continuously that the Kashmiri youth are supporting the militants and injuring, killing our people then the nation has to accept that and act accordingly," he added.

As many as two terrorists, three Army personnel and one policeman were killed in the encounter that broke out at Tral in south Kashmir on Saturday.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/nat...trikes-in-a-week-defence-experts-1578224.html

 

[lcafanboy]

@bornbus @Kunal Biswas @sayareakd @Project Dharma @all