Not scared of any ‘threat’: Government to Finmeccanica
http://idrw.org/not-scared-threat-government-finmeccanica/ .
http://idrw.org/not-scared-threat-government-finmeccanica/ .
This is second time in three weeks I am saying this " ravi Shankar Prasad should keep his mouth shut on some matter".Not scared of any ‘threat’: Government to Finmeccanica
http://idrw.org/not-scared-threat-government-finmeccanica/ .
It's not just about torpedoes.@sob There's an update on this.
All the western bootlickers who were pretending to get offended at the cancellation of the deal under the pretext of national security can now sleep in peace. We have found an alternative to the torpedoes and talks are already on to acquire them. I am sure the establishment considers all these factors before blacklisting anything. Cancelling one specific torpedo deal doesn't mean cancelling the purchase of torpedoes altogether. It's childish to even suggest that just because one deal is cancelled implies that our submarines will be without torpedoes.
I don't know about the equipment, but their lobbyists and paid forum spokesmen sure will lose their lucrative source of income and will have to look for alternate employment opportunities once this corrupt company is booted out.It's not just about torpedoes.
here have a look.
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This is for all future acquisition. I'll make a list existing equipment's which will be rendered Useless/compromised if they pull out of existing contract.
It's not just about torpedoes.
here have a look.
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This is for all future acquisition. I'll make a list existing equipment's which will be rendered Useless/compromised if they pull out of existing contract.
Most of the things in the list are helicopter deals which have already been replaced by other helicopters.4 them are already announced from the pic and finmecc* is obliged to fulfill the orders and service their products. Finm* need those orders as well and its not one way road.
Many of these were not signed?? But even if they were I don't think they impact any strategic programs in the slightest. Mostly helicopters something India should be able to make?It's not just about torpedoes.
here have a look.
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This is for all future acquisition. I'll make a list existing equipment's which will be rendered Useless/compromised if they pull out of existing contract.
I do agree with all the points that you have said. but it won't still fire a gun, you can't debate the your enemies to halt their assault. and it is not that they will wait till we are at full readiness , At the end of the day if the guns falls silent and the nations well being is threatened, all these are pointless.I don't know about the equipment, but their lobbyists and paid forum spokesmen sure will lose their lucrative source of income and will have to look for alternate employment opportunities once this corrupt company is booted out.
The contracts themselves were signed by violating the sanctity of the Indian acquisition process so the list of equipment doesn't really matter in a legal case against the institutional corruption spread by that company. All neutral observers will first have to come to terms with the fact that it was not a minor slip up or an individual level corruption, it was an act of institutional corruption. Everyone has to be on the same page at least on the hard facts, otherwise there is no point peddling wisdom. No equipment is shiny enough for any nation to illegally undermine their own sovereign laws under the pretext of defending sovereignty. The irony is hard to miss.
The government is answerable to the people as far as their security goes and in turn, as a representative of the people, the government has the prerogative to make decisions, some of which cannot be disclosed out in the open domain due to reasons of secrecy. It is not for the people, or the media, or NGOs with vested corporate interests to bulldoze their way into specific decisions that the government takes and impose their will on the government, under the pretense of national interest. There are certain prerogatives the government has which is a privilege granted to them by virtue of being elected to represent the interests of the people, which allow them to make decisions which cannot immediately be revealed to the public at large at the moment. It is not only a right of the government but their responsibility to keep this sensitive information a secret.
I'm sure they consider all aspects of their decisions when they make them. India is not new to these disinformation campaigns when a sore loser tries to throw a tantrum by trying to provoke naive Indians by misleading them. This happens every time a defense contractor loses a contract.
This also happened when UPA had banned Paypal for violating the rights of Indians, but instead of complying with our laws, Paypal hit Indian bloggers with a disinformation campaign claiming that the Indian government was acting against the interests of Indians by banning Paypal and a lot of naive Indians did fall for it. It later turned out that Indian law requires banks to pay interest to their customers but Paypal was refusing to register itself as a bank to avoid paying interest to Indian users so they refused to comply with our rules and were banned. It's the same thing with these foreign weapons companies. The truth lies elsewhere, but disinformation under the garb of 'concern for India's interests' reigns supreme.
None of these companies give a hoot about Indian interests, these are the ones blocking our entry into the MTCR and other multilateral clubs. If they are so concerned about Indian security interests, let them display their commitment by repealing their veto. Until such a time, India cannot do business with these people who threaten our security by adopting anti-Indian postures in various multilateral forums, including, but not limited to the Kashmir. It's like buying weapons from the enemy. Every large weapons sale anywhere in the world comes with a geo-political understanding of each other's sensitivities. Unfortunately, these European nations have failed to display their commitment towards any goodwill.
A war is set of tactical moves resulting in to a strategic one. We cannot let our Tactical preparedness be compromised or rendered less potent in what they were before.Many of these were not signed?? But even if they were I don't think they impact any strategic programs in the slightest. Mostly helicopters something India should be able to make?
Obliged ? What if they ban doing business with India as a policy and say "We will not sell to you, keep your contract" then what ? they are free to..not they are a factory in Yamunanagr that govt can force them in to obligation.4 them are already announced from the pic and finmecc* is obliged to fulfill the orders and service their products. Finm* need those orders as well and its not one way road.
The junk Qulaity of Millions that we produce you mean ? and the thousands of IITians who were not given opportunity to excel because of system and in the name of Social justice. Our R&D spending is peanuts. You pay peanuts you get monkeys.I am always puzzled by how small nations with less that 10 million population produce top of the line weapons and India which claims to graduate millions of engineers has to buy even small weapons like guns,bullets or heavy machine guns?
What if they did the deal then they denied parts later?Obliged ? What if they ban doing business with India as a policy and say "We will not sell to you, keep your contract" then what ? they are free to..not they are a factory in Yamunanagr that govt can force them in to obligation.
This system will not change it is corrupt intentionally . Accept it that it willThe junk Qulaity of Millions that we produce you mean ? and the thousands of IITians who were not given opportunity to excel because of system and in the name of Social justice. Our R&D spending is peanuts. You pay peanuts you get monkeys.
When you are a customer buying weapons from others you have compromised your tactical preparedness from the start.A war is set of tactical moves resulting in to a strategic one. We cannot let our Tactical preparedness be compromised or rendered less potent in what they were before.
Banning will take it there, there is method to weed out problems Knee jerk reactions are better avoided.What if they did the deal then they denied parts later?
I have not said corruption but the lack of opportunities to retain talent, and the paltry funding to R&D. Russia is unimaginably corrupt but they do produce their own weapons... isn't it ?This system will not change it is corrupt intentionally . Accept it that it will
Always be like this .
All the superpowers produce their own weapons this is what separates them from the rest of the world.Banning will take it there, there is method to weed out problems Knee jerk reactions are better avoided.
I have not said corruption but the lack of opportunities to retain talent, and the paltry funding to R&D. Russia is unimaginably corrupt but they do produce their own weapons... isn't it ?