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Agreed, we don't have anything to showcase like busted bullet trains or empty ghost towns. We live within our means.
Nice one....
Agreed, we don't have anything to showcase like busted bullet trains or empty ghost towns. We live within our means.
We should compare with ourselves.Isn't that ironical that Chinese busted trains are still safer and faster than Indian trains?
That is the only way to knock some fact into their brains.We should compare with ourselves.
In fact you have other standards like toxic stuff or environmental degradation to compare it to. Good luck there 8)We should compare with ourselves.
More like a well fed man mocking a hungry guy and choking on his own food.It is like a bare-foot man laughing at another man's shoes because he thinks the shoes are not good enough, he must forget about his bare feet.
Oh yes, it is not right for Indians to mock you but you mock them.Tell me, my Indian fellows.
Is it a fact that Chinese trains (HSR trains or normal trains) are faster and safer than Indian trains?
If the answer is yes, then how do you have the nerve to mock Chinese trains?
Chinese didn't say we have the best HSR, but we said we have the most HSR. If you think that is showcasing, so what? The fact remains that Chinese railway system is still better than Indian one, even if you think it is overhyped.
So are you gonna laugh at us because you think we overhyped our trains? Before you disparaging Chinese trains, isn't it a better idea for you to build something better than us?
It is like a bare-foot man laughing at another man's shoes because he thinks the shoes are not good enough, he must forget about his bare feet.
may be frenchman dont realize the LV their wearing is a knock-off.Oh yes, it is not right for Indians to mock you but you mock them.
Actually, China did say it had the fastest and among the safest HSR networks in the world. Both of which turned out to be lies. So it is quite fair for CCP to be mocked for their total failure. Since Indians can't mock it, French easily can. Your rail isn't faster or safer than ours, it is built with rubber-bands and paper clips next to the TGV.
So the Frenchman wearing a pair of Louis Vuittons can mock Chinese knock-off whose sole falls out in 5 steps.
Lots of infra is subsidized. At the end of the day the money is from taxpayers, but anyway it's better than being squandered elsewhere. And for HSR it takes a much longer period for amotization. Or the other projects like metros have revenue streams of commercial development of property in viccinity.The Chinese system is based on massive Government subsidy for all major infrastructure projects.
Other than real-estate construction - are any of the private players involved in any major infrastructure projects ?
Take the Airlines for instance - China has many local airline companies which were started by state-owned companies, state-owned entities, etc. So what if they dont make money - the CCP just pumps money to keep it running until they are profitable !!
Take the local Chinese semiconductor industry - Fabs built at the cost of 3-5 billions a piece.
China's fabs like SMIC have been losing money since they were started but they are still open - how ??
Running a fab is not cheap, and guess what - even when they were losing money, they were still building more fabs ??
That is because you don't have HSR trains. If you have, you certainly go to other forums( PDF for example) and brag about them. I have been to other forums and have witnessed the way Indians talk about their achievements.We don't go to other countries forums and tom-tom that our Railways are the fastest and safest. .
Negative news about China was constantly shared by Indian members before Chinese members came to this forum, I am pretty sure this thread is gonna exist whether we are here or not. So the purpose of this thread is not to show the mirror to Chinese members, but to fullfill your fragile ego after it was broken by the fact China is having HSR and India is stuck with its crippled raliway system.It is the Chinese members go all over the forum world and boast about it and almost post them like a bot. It is us showing the mirror to these people and saying hey they are not as fast or safe as you claim them to be.
Because you don't even has one bullet train to recall, and you don't one HSR project to suspend.We are not the country who had recalled 54 bullet trains after safety concerns and we are not the country which has suspended 80% of the new HSR projects. It is China.
Like I said, these two links, together with thread and this sub-forum, are not for the purpose of enlightening Chinese members or Indian members, but for the purpose of bashing and attacking China. As long as I am staying in this forum, I will defend my country and my HSR, even if once in while I may sound bragging.BBC News - China manufacturer China CNR recalls 54 bullet trains
China suspends railways projects - Telegraph
Just a reality check for Chinese members.
And we know how safe or unsafe our railways are. So we don't boast about them.
Good, then go to those forums and bash them if they are wrong. We have seen umpteen posts from several Chinese members who expressly come here to boast about the Bullet trains (or rather CCP achievements). We are only showing the mirror to this boasting.That is because you don't have HSR trains. If you have, you certainly go to other forums( PDF for example) and brag about them. I have been to other forums and have witnessed the way Indians talk about their achievements.
No Chinese members here said they are saftest, but we did mention that China created the record of the fastest operating speed of HSR. Recent accidents may reflect on the safety record of Chinese HSR trains, but they are still better than Indian trains.
If you take posting news about Chinese achievements here as boasting, then fine, I for one will refrain from posting such stuff unless being challenged.
We are only reporting what is published in the open. If you object to this news go sue them or you would have already done if they were based in China. Our forum doesn't kow-tow to CCP or its minions to decide what should be posted and what should not be posted on this forum.Negative news about China was constantly shared by Indian members before Chinese members came to this forum, I am pretty sure this thread is gonna exist whether we are here or not. So the purpose of this thread is not to show the mirror to Chinese members, but to fullfill your fragile ego after it was broken by the fact China is having HSR and India is stuck with its crippled raliway system.
We don't have Bullet trains but we have Airlines which transports us at much higher speeds . We don't need HSR/Bullet trains as they are not feasible economically for long-distances which is what major cities are located farther away from each other.Because you don't even has one bullet train to recall, and you don't one HSR project to suspend.
54 bullet trains being recalled, and 80%(inaccurate figure actually) of the new HSR projects being suspended, China still has more HSR than India, and in fact China has the most HSR.
You are welcome to see whichever way you like it to be.Like I said, these two links, together with thread and this sub-forum, are not for the purpose of enlightening Chinese members or Indian members, but for the purpose of bashing and attacking China. As long as I am staying in this forum, I will defend my country and my HSR, even if once in while I may sound bragging.
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