China revokes new Shanghai Catholic bishop's title

[Ray]

China revokes new Shanghai Catholic bishop's title

China has revoked the title of a new Catholic bishop in Shanghai who outraged Chinese officials by immediately dropping out of the government agency that oversees the country's officially sanctioned church, religious officials said Wednesday.

Ma Daqin, who was jointly named for the post in a rare consensus between Beijing and the Vatican, has been confined to a seminary since he announced his intention to drop out of the Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association in front of a congregation during his July 7 ordination as auxiliary bishop.

The move by Ma, 44, was seen as challenging China's attempts to run the country's Catholic church independently of the Vatican.

A Shanghai church official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter, said the decision by Chinese officials to revoke Ma's title was announced at an internal meeting this week. He said no reason was given for the revocation.

The Rev. Jeroom Heyndrickx, of Belgium's Catholic University of Leuven, and the Rev. Bernardo Cervellera, editor-in-chief of AsiaNews, said Chinese colleagues had informed them of the development earlier this week.

The Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association and the Shanghai Diocese declined to comment.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...hai-catholic-bishops-title/article4191948.ece

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China claims that it allows freedom of religion and all that.

Here is an example which proves that China does not encourage religion or allow religion to be preached as the rules of the religion.

One has never heard of any country in the world except China where the clergy of any religion has to join a Govt sponsored licencing organisation or an organisation with such a bogus title as - Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association.

Is one to understand that the religious personalities are unpatriotic and required to join this so called Patriotic organisation?

 

[cinoti]

China revokes new Shanghai Catholic bishop's title

China has revoked the title of a new Catholic bishop in Shanghai who outraged Chinese officials by immediately dropping out of the government agency that oversees the country's officially sanctioned church, religious officials said Wednesday.

Ma Daqin, who was jointly named for the post in a rare consensus between Beijing and the Vatican, has been confined to a seminary since he announced his intention to drop out of the Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association in front of a congregation during his July 7 ordination as auxiliary bishop.

The move by Ma, 44, was seen as challenging China's attempts to run the country's Catholic church independently of the Vatican.

A Shanghai church official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter, said the decision by Chinese officials to revoke Ma's title was announced at an internal meeting this week. He said no reason was given for the revocation.

The Rev. Jeroom Heyndrickx, of Belgium's Catholic University of Leuven, and the Rev. Bernardo Cervellera, editor-in-chief of AsiaNews, said Chinese colleagues had informed them of the development earlier this week.

The Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association and the Shanghai Diocese declined to comment.

The Hindu : News / International : China revokes new Shanghai Catholic bishop's title

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China claims that it allows freedom of religion and all that.

Here is an example which proves that China does not encourage religion or allow religion to be preached as the rules of the religion.

One has never heard of any country in the world except China where the clergy of any religion has to join a Govt sponsored licencing organisation or an organisation with such a bogus title as - Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association.

Is one to understand that the religious personalities are unpatriotic and required to join this so called Patriotic organisation?

Very good indeed, England has Englican Churches, China has Chinglican Churches, who gave a ----- to Vantican.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

The Chinglican Church. Now that is funny.:-D

 

[hbogyt]

China does allow freedom of religion. What it doesn't allow are religious figureheads who command the blind obedience of their followers which can undermine the legitimacy of the communist regime. That ends up hindering religious freedom.

 

[no smoking]

China claims that it allows freedom of religion and all that.

Here is an example which proves that China does not encourage religion or allow religion to be preached as the rules of the religion.

One has never heard of any country in the world except China where the clergy of any religion has to join a Govt sponsored licencing organisation or an organisation with such a bogus title as - Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association.

Is one to understand that the religious personalities are unpatriotic and required to join this so called Patriotic organisation?

No chinese claims that he or she allows freedom without any condition.

You can have your religious freedom as long as you put the loyalty to China abvoe Vatican. Clearly, Mr Ma thinks that his homeland should take the number two.

 

[amoy]

《The Tutors》 by Showtime is one of my favourites, totally 4 seasons. King Henry VIII's struggles with Rome, in order to divorce Katherine and marry Anne Boleyn led to the separation of the Church of England from the Roman Catholic Church.

Another is 《The Borgias》on Pope Alexander VI

Of course I understand that's all soap opera, not real history.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

《The Tutors》 by Showtime is one of my favourites, totally 4 seasons. King Henry VIII's struggles with Rome, in order to divorce Katherine and marry Anne Boleyn led to the separation of the Church of England from the Roman Catholic Church.

Another is 《The Borgias》on Pope Alexander VI

Of course I understand that's all soap opera, not real history.

They add drama to the history, but the history is accurate AFAIK.

 

[Dovah]

The Chinglican Church. Now that is funny.:-D

Would've been racist had somebody else coined it.