Attacks on Tamil Nadu fishermen by Sri Lankan navy

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We used had a habit of gifting lands to other countries has a sign of goodwill. We also donated Coco Islans to Burma, rumoured that it is now used by Chinese has a Signal Gathering Station. Both US and Indian Navy says there is no station right now.


Fishermen getting caught in other country sea borders cannot be prevented.

Fishermen had to go into deeper waters on account of pollution and chemicalization of coastal region. Earlier they could caught fishes within 10-12km of the coast, but now they have to go atleast 50kms into the sea. They are forced to go into deep waters risking getting caught by Coast Guard.


Today was our people, Tomorrow will be yours!!!

There is no solution for this. Every developing nation having this problem, Despite the Coast Guard's best efforts to discourage fishermen from crossing into pther country waters, they continue to do so in search of a better catch.
These TN fisherman crossing the IMBL only because of it's lucrative catch. The NW seaboard of SL has not been fished for 20+ years. SL fisherman don't have the money and equipment as TN fisherman... they may sometimes ends up in TN seaboard cuz they simply lose their course due to their primitive techniques of navigation.

Even if Indian seaboard got polluted it's not legal to cross the IMBL
 

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Agreed, Thats what fishermen do!!!!

They go for lucrative catch until they think its worth the sail. Thats our basic human nature bro!

In my tour to Tamil Nadu, I didnt saw any fishermen boats having GPS or other equipment. Both TN and SL fishermen dont have any equipments to tell them their limits, They just keep going till they have good catch. If they dont get a catch, all the diesel used for the boat will be wasted, so they keep going deeper into the sea.

There was a time fishermen used to get a catch daily, Then is becomes weekly and now its forthnighlty.
 

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Agreed, Thats what fishermen do!!!!

They go for lucrative catch until they think its worth the sail. Thats our basic human nature bro!

In my tour to Tamil Nadu, I didnt saw any fishermen boats having GPS or other equipment. Both TN and SL fishermen dont have any equipments to tell them their limits, They just keep going till they have good catch. If they dont get a catch, all the diesel used for the boat will be wasted, so they keep going deeper into the sea.

There was a time fishermen used to get a catch daily, Then is becomes weekly and now its forthnighlty.
It's not the problem of faulty navigation... It's a daylight robbery that these TN fisherman are accused of.
Indeed most TN fisherman don't enjoy modern navigational Technic but what we face here is massed infiltration of organized fishing gangs who fish in larger area and denieng our Tamil peoples right to fish in our SL seaboard.
 

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Taking Katchatheevu back won't do any good! keep your fisherman out from crossing our IMBL.
Most of the problems are near Katchatheevu only. Once we take back our Island which we ceded to SL, problem will be solved. If Indian fisherman will only be in our sea border, then SL navy can't take our fisherman in custody by taking advantage of porous sea border near Katchatheevu.
 

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The Coast Guard should patrol the maritime boundaries strictly and prevent Indian fisherfolks from crossing by error.

At the same time, should impound SL Naval boats if they cross the maritime boundary.

It is time to be strict and fair and not keel over to please the SL Govt.

SL Naval boats cross over in pursuit and India has turned the Nelson's eye.

It should impound such cavalier action of the SL Navy and impounded a whole lot of SL Naval boats and fisherman to indicate that it thus far and no further.
 
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Most of the problems are near Katchatheevu only. Once we take back our Island which we ceded to SL, problem will be solved. If Indian fisherman will only be in our sea border, then SL navy can't take our fisherman in custody by taking advantage of porous sea border near Katchatheevu.
It's not only near Katchatheevu but all over Jaffna seaboard. if you taking Katchatheevu back also ready to take Indian Tamils who works in central SL back to India as well.

http://www.zimbio.com/Democratic+Re...Indian+Coast+Guard+back+Lankan+view+intrusion
 
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It's not only near Katchatheevu but all over Jaffna seaboard. if you taking Katchatheevu back also ready to take Indian Tamils who works in central SL back to India as well.

Indian Coast Guard back Lankan view on intrusion by TN fishermen - Democratic Republic of the Congo - Zimbio
May be. But problem will be solved till certain extend once we take back Katchatheevu Island.

What do you mean Indian Tamils in SL ?? They are Sri Lankan and not Indian. They are living there for centuries even before S
inhalese came into existence. Part of SL is Tamil Land. If you just want to send SL Tamils into India and then you have give-up their land "Eelam" and we will do some adjustment later. 8)
 
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May be. But problem will be solved till certain extend once we take back Katchatheevu Island.

What do you mean Indian Tamils in SL ?? They are Sri Lankan and not Indian. They are living there for centuries even before S
inhalese came into existence. Part of SL is Tamil Land. If you just want to send SL Tamils into India and then you have give-up their land "Eelam" and we will do some adjustment later. 8)
How come the problem be solved???

Indian Tamils means Tamils who were brought to SL by Brits to work in tea states in 19th and early 20th century!

Mr. Galaxy I am willing to debate about SL history and Tamils! Are you ready? and Should we start a new thread?
 

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How come the problem be solved???

Indian Tamils means Tamils who were brought to SL by Brits to work in tea states in 19th and early 20th century!
This is called False propaganda by Sinhalese and SL Government. Tamils were living there much before that even before Chola Kingdom. They are Sri Lankan and have legitimate right on 1/3rd of SL like other ethnic group. You are making a small Island issue into big issue.


Mr. Galaxy I am willing to debate about SL history and Tamils! Are you ready? and Should we start a new thread?
Be my Guest.....Start and lets Truth prevails. :thumb: But Kindly, don't post Rajapaksa false version as he is born liar.
 

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It is foolish to called the indenture labour taken by the British for their plantation and non Sri Lankans.

These Tamils helped build SL's economy and that should not be forgotten.

By this warped corollary that the Tamils are not citizens of SL, would mean that no non native should be a part of the citizenry all over the world!

Likewise, the majority of those who thump their chest like gorillas (when they are ecstatic), as Sri Lankans is a total falsehood that is perpetuated.

It is the Veddas who alone are the inheritors of Sri Lanka.

Even their President, by Gud's logic, is a false pretender to the throne! I am not too sure of his ancestry to claim that he is a Sri Lankan.

Let us be logical and not be devoid of understanding modern realities.

Let us also not be downright foolish!
 
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It is foolish to called the indenture labour taken by the British for their plantation and non Sri Lankans.

These Tamils helped build SL's economy and that should not be forgotten.

By this warped corollary, no non native should be a part of the citizenry all over the world!

Likewise, the majority of those who thump their chest like gorillas, when they are ecstatic, as Sri Lankans is a total falsehood that is perpetuated.

It is the Veddas who alone are the inheritors of Sri Lanka and even their PM, by Gud's logic, is a false pretender to the throne~!

Let us be logical and not be devoid of understanding modern realities.
Yes it's foolish to call them [FONT=helvetica, arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]non Sri Lankans. But it was Tamils who have shun these people and alienate them.

We are not responsible for errors committed by Brits. BTW they are SL citizen now and I just used them to justify the TN claim for Kattchathiu.
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Yes it's foolish to call them [FONT=helvetica, arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]non Sri Lankans. But it was Tamils who have shun these people and alienate them.

We are not responsible for errors committed by Brits. BTW they are SL citizen now and I just used them to justify the TN claim for Kattchathiu.
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Shun what people?

The British made errors?

Again your bigotry shows!

They did nothing?

Do read
Colonialism in Sri Lanka: The Political Economy of the Kandyan Highlands, 1833-1886
 

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To indicate that SL cannot do with the benevolence of others, here is a dated article

Foreign aid was essential in preventing acute foreign exchange shortages after 1977. It accounted for around 9 percent of GDP from 1978 to 1986. Aid has been of two types: outright grants and loans on concessionary terms. The annual level of grants grew from US$21.9 million in 1978 to US$178 million in 1986. Most of this money was tied to specific projects, such as the Accelerated Mahaweli Program. Both grant aid and concessionary loans come from Western Europe, the United States, Japan, and international organizations. Project loans amounted to US$351.2 million in 1986, and nonproject loans were US$77.1 million.

Most foreign aid to Sri Lanka was pledged at the meetings of the Aid Sri Lanka Consortium, which was organized by the World Bank on behalf of the major donor countries. The Sri Lankan government sent the World Bank an annual request outlining its needs. The member donors then met to consider these requests and coordinate their aid policies. The World Bank and most aid donors strongly supported the liberalization of the economy during the decade after 1977; indeed, at times they have urged the government to carry its free market policies further.

A special meeting of the consortium in December 1987 pledged US$493 million above its normal aid commitments toward a three-year reconstruction program. Much of this money was targeted for specific projects in Northern and Eastern provinces. Observers believed that if there were a peaceful solution to the nation's political problems, total foreign aid would reach US$2.7 billion in the years 1988 to 1990.

Sri Lanka-Foreign Aid
 

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Shun what people?

The British made errors?

Again your bigotry shows!

They did nothing?

Do read
Colonialism in Sri Lanka: The Political Economy of the Kandyan Highlands, 1833-1886
Tamils specially Jaffna Tamils (Vellar people) don't even conduct marriages with Indian Tamils. All know that these people were considered low class people in India.

Brits completely destroyed the demography in Kandy region and the Environment of the hill country.
 

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Tamils specially Jaffna Tamils (Vellar people) don't even conduct marriages with Indian Tamils. All know that these people were considered low class people in India.

Brits completely destroyed the demography in Kandy region and the Environment of the hill country.
If what allude is anywhere near to the truth, it is the failure or the design of the Sri Lankan Govt to encourage the same and divide them!

To any sane people, demography is not important, economics is.

You cannot eat and survive with demography!
 

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If what allude is anywhere near to the truth, it is the failure or the design of the Sri Lankan Govt to encourage the same and divide them!
These people were already divided when they came to SL. SL was a paradise for them. They didn't even want to go to India when asked! BTW The Vellar people don't even consider Eastern Tamils as their equals.
 

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These people were already divided when they came to SL. SL was a paradise for them. They didn't even want to go to India when asked! BTW The Vellar people don't even consider Eastern Tamils as their equals.
people living for more than 150 years wont move out of there places.
political rejection of lankan tamils was the main cause that made lankan tamils move away from the main stream- its entirely lankan sinhalese politicians fault. a totalitarian state they envisaged in terms of ethnicity and even now tamil parties are shouting out loud for at par treatment of tamils in lanka.
 

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people living for more than 150 years wont move out of there places.
political rejection of lankan tamils was the main cause that made lankan tamils move away from the main stream- its entirely lankan sinhalese politicians fault. a totalitarian state they envisaged in terms of ethnicity and even now tamil parties are shouting out loud for at par treatment of tamils in lanka.
We don't need to move these people out... there are ours now. They get the par treatment in Lanka.

Tamil and some Sinhalese political buggers are living out of the misery of their people. They wanted war to make a living out of it!
 

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Sink a few lankan navy ships.

Atleast that way they can jump into the chini camp and we wont have to waste our money on them and let them see what it will feel like to have India as an enemy.

When person doesn't understand politely then its time to smack him in the face.
 

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Sink a few lankan navy ships.

Atleast that way they can jump into the chini camp and we wont have to waste our money on them and let them see what it will feel like to have India as an enemy.

When person doesn't understand politely then its time to smack him in the face.
If you are suggesting that India smacks the Sri Lankans on the face, who will be there to pick their teeth out of the ocean?

Now, that would not be fair, as I see it!
 

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