Armenian-Azerbaijan 2020 War

[Freedom Thru Firepower]

Why they are so much worried about pinaka. They hv Israel drones they can wipe it out easly. Becoz Armenian don't hv much areial protection. They are worried about something else seems

Probably we have given them longer range missiles to target the baku oil fields or good AD do wipe out the drones. I hope we do

 

[TopWatcher]

 

[TopWatcher]

Probably we have given them longer range missiles to target the baku oil fields or good AD do wipe out the drones. I hope we do

Probably may be IA giving instructions to Armenia how to fight with Azerbaijan.

 

[Tshering22]

Probably we have given them longer-range missiles to target the Baku oil fields or good AD to wipe out the drones. I hope we do

Not a good idea unless they are asking for it openly. We have not found critical evidence of Azeri arms supplies to Pakistani terror groups. Political jibes here and there are OK as long as they are not actively stepping in. Once they do, we can do what you say.

A glaring contrast here is that we have found caches of Turkish small arms and rockets in the hands of terrorists sponsored by the Pakistani military and yet have done nothing about it. By your logic, PKK should have been hammering Turks across Anatolia using our weapons in retaliation. But it's not happening.

Coming back to your point of giving Yerevan longer-range missiles to hit Azeri oil fields, you must know that it would be a global disaster in every way - environmentally, and economically due to oil prices shooting up, and geopolitically.

Hitting Baku's oil fields would result in a catastrophic increase in oil prices worldwide. The EU would face the worst if that were to happen, meaning that European countries would start arming Azerbaijan as well alongside Turkey against Armenia.

Armenia's weakness is its lack of bargaining tools in geopolitics.

• It is sandwiched between Turkey and Azerbaijan
• Has no oil or gas or rare earth minerals or lithium (not even undeclared) which can make others listen to its demands
• No strategic coastal access either on Caspian or Black Seas
• A dwindling demography with more Armenians living outside their country than inside
• Very limited industrial and technological capabilities
• Lack of foreign investments

On top of that, it is a member of a useless CSTO while its public has strong sympathies towards the West due to a large diaspora population. And the cherry on the cake is that they are an inefficient parliamentary democracy like our country, with 5x more corruption, flaws and bureaucracy.

Yerevan needs to rethink its national strategy very, very carefully as it is really in a bad place.

 

[nongaddarliberal]

Not a good idea unless they are asking for it openly. We have not found critical evidence of Azeri arms supplies to Pakistani terror groups. Political jibes here and there are OK as long as they are not actively stepping in. Once they do, we can do what you say.

A glaring contrast here is that we have found caches of Turkish small arms and rockets in the hands of terrorists sponsored by the Pakistani military and yet have done nothing about it. By your logic, PKK should have been hammering Turks across Anatolia using our weapons in retaliation. But it's not happening.

Coming back to your point of giving Yerevan longer-range missiles to hit Azeri oil fields, you must know that it would be a global disaster in every way - environmentally, and economically due to oil prices shooting up, and geopolitically.

Hitting Baku's oil fields would result in a catastrophic increase in oil prices worldwide. The EU would face the worst if that were to happen, meaning that European countries would start arming Azerbaijan as well alongside Turkey against Armenia.

Armenia's weakness is its lack of bargaining tools in geopolitics.

• It is sandwiched between Turkey and Azerbaijan
• Has no oil or gas or rare earth minerals or lithium (not even undeclared) which can make others listen to its demands
• No strategic coastal access either on Caspian or Black Seas
• A dwindling demography with more Armenians living outside their country than inside
• Very limited industrial and technological capabilities
• Lack of foreign investments

On top of that, it is a member of a useless CSTO while its public has strong sympathies towards the West due to a large diaspora population. And the cherry on the cake is that they are an inefficient parliamentary democracy like our country, with 5x more corruption, flaws and bureaucracy.

Yerevan needs to rethink its national strategy very, very carefully as it is really in a bad place.

The best type of aid to Armenia would be swarm drones, artillery and ATGMs. The type of weapons they can use defensively and impose massive casualties on an invading force. That way it's not destabilizing, but gives enough of a deterrent against the crazed Azeri plans. We haven't given them swarm drones yet, as we're barely producing them, but the rest India is already doing.

 

[Tshering22]

The best type of aid to Armenia would be swarm drones, artillery and ATGMs. The type of weapons they can use defensively and impose massive casualties on an invading force. That way it's not destabilizing, but gives enough of a deterrent against the crazed Azeri plans. We haven't given them swarm drones yet, as we're barely producing them, but the rest of India is already doing.

Much of all the drones and loitering munitions that are being made now are in companies that are fairly new to the game. They have won orders but their production lines are not mature enough for supplying additional orders outside. This would happen with time when there are more reinvestments from the orders they get and greater financing once their businesses truly take off. Until then, we will only be able to provide heavy firepower like artillery platforms, MLRs, ammunition, missiles, jets and armoured vehicles (as required).

Given what Azerbaijan has, Armenia needs a credible anti-drone system that is able to electronically neutralize smaller drones and SAM systems that can target bigger ones like Bayraktar TB-2s which are being supplied by Turks. But this is a decision that Armenians need to make for themselves as we are neither CSTO members and will most likely not be interested in directing their generals on how to fight. As suppliers, we can only arm up to a certain point, such that it does not put us on a direct warpath with European countries.

 

[SKC]

The best type of aid to Armenia would be swarm drones, artillery and ATGMs. The type of weapons they can use defensively and impose massive casualties on an invading force. That way it's not destabilizing, but gives enough of a deterrent against the crazed Azeri plans. We haven't given them swarm drones yet, as we're barely producing them, but the rest India is already doing.

They don't have money to buy large armament. They are dependent on the remittance from Armenians living and working outside.

They could choose path of becoming tax haven country and allow banking to grow big but with current geopolitical turmoil this would be hard to do.

 

[Jimih]

They don't have money to buy large armament. They are dependent on the remittance from Armenians living and working outside.

Yes like the Kardashians.

 

[SKC]

Yes like the Kardashians.

They indeed raised more than $1B last year for Armenia.

 

[Jimih]

They indeed raised more than $1B last year for Armenia.

Yes something for a good cause rather than displaying humongous arses and making sex tapes.

 

[Tshering22]

The entire Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict is beautifully explained by Abhijit Chavda in this video. There is an interesting theory by Americans called Heartland-Rimland Power which plays a major role in the Caucasus.

 

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[NutCracker]

PINAKA

 

[TopWatcher]

PINAKA

No it's akash.

 

[Jimih]

Borders getting hot

 

[another_armchair]

Borders getting hot

I think we still licence produce shit loads of Milan ATGMs and Carl Gustav's.

Should send a ship load of these to Armenia. Will really come in handy.

 

[Jimih]

 

[Johny_Baba]

looks like something happened, and do note they mentioning "shelling" hhmmm

 

[kamaal]

We can now only pray for Armenia. Hope they are trained for carrying out small operations against azeri forces and holding strong positions. One successful operation will force azeri to make more mistakes.

 

[Jimih]

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