Will Pakistan become 24th Province of China, 23th being Taiwan ?

[AprilLyrics]

well. Chinese do not think like Indians.

So in india, making friends means conquering?

 

[neo29]

If it happens then it will be fun to watch China fighting extremism and Taliban.

Pakistani's speaking Cantonese and Mandarin .... ) Joke of the decade

 

[Bangalorean]

well. Chinese do not think like Indians.

So in india, making friends means conquering?

No, we don't think that way either.

But what we do know is that Pakistan, as usual, is trying to indulge in its boot-licking game. They tried to be slaves of the West at one point in the past, and lost all their self-esteem and self-respect. Now they are doing the same with China. They feel very proud and happy when China makes statements like "Pakistan is our Israel". Looking at Pakistan's size and population and all their talk about being a "leading light of the Islamic world", don't you think their country has a singular lack of self respect and independent thought?

And make no mistake: today we see weekly articles about how Pakistan and China will be "brothers forever" and all that poetic shit, but any impartial observer will see that China is the only party benefiting in this "friendship". The "trade" with China is going to ruin Pakistan economy - you can look at other posts on this site to understand why.

 

[amoy]

haha, my friends, the subject itself is fun. There're about 32 provinces or equivalent in China. How comes 23rd or 24th?

 

[Ray]

Would anyone take a failed state into its fold?

That too one that is full of fundoos, who call the shots.

 

[Ray]

If it happens then it will be fun to watch China fighting extremism and Taliban.

Pakistani's speaking Cantonese and Mandarin .... ) Joke of the decade

it would be adequate if they could speak in Urdu, which is a Mohajir language and alien to the Pakistan majority!

 

[Ray]

Mr. Oracle, you are overestimate US' backing. Taiwan is historically part of China, i believe even you won't refuse that, taiwan straitor is only 100 mile wide, if chinese PLA want to take taiwan today, there is nobody can stop PLA. In fact, the taiwan issue is a pasted time. Just wait the time coming, China and America to make a deal. Taiwanese is also chinese, nobody in China looking for civil war.

If Chinese want to take Taiwan, what is stopping them?

More so, since they (ROC) makes it a joke of what China claims as her rightful claim over Republic of China!

They laugh at you and you accept it.

It means that Taiwan is different/

Indeed, it is different, since Taiwan was that of non Hans.

Taiwan was first populated by Negrito, and then Austronesian people.

The Hans came later!

Let colonialism and imperialism not make an excuse to say Taiwan is Communist Chinese.

 

[chex3009]

well. Chinese do not think like Indians.

So in india, making friends means conquering?

True, India is neither a Terrorist Country nor a Rogue Nation so India doesn't fulfill the Communist China's criteria of being its friend. Go fishing somewhere else....

 

[Gujjar_boy]

I don't think this will ever going to happen...! But if happen then this move will not be good for India..!!

 

[nimo_cn]

Should I move this thread to members corner?

Well, you should move it to the joke thread.

 

[Lee Fuchen]

很明显，不会。
首先，巴基斯坦是一个主权国家，中国将不会把巴基斯坦变成第24个省。
其次，中国奉行"和平共处五项原则"ï¼Œæå€¡ä¸ç»“盟。
所以，即便中国和巴基斯坦关系友好，也不会结成盟友关系。
obviously, the answer is NO.
frist of all, Pakistan is a sovereign state, sovereignty resides with the Pakistan people and government, not China.
next, China pursue Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence with every states around the world not just Idina. China also call for Non-Aligned Movement sice 1956.
therefore, even if the relation be firendly between China and Pakistan, they would not be an ally.

 

[SHASH2K2]

很明显，不会。
首先，巴基斯坦是一个主权国家，中国将不会把巴基斯坦变成第24个省。
其次，中国奉行"和平共处五项原则"ï¼Œæå€¡ä¸ç»“盟。
所以，即便中国和巴基斯坦关系友好，也不会结成盟友关系。
obviously, the answer is NO.
frist of all, Pakistan is a sovereign state, sovereignty resides with the Pakistan people and government, not China.
next, China pursue Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence with every states around the world not just Idina. China also call for Non-Aligned Movement sice 1956.
therefore, even if the relation be firendly between China and Pakistan, they would not be an ally.

well Tibet was also a sovereign state before it was merged forcefully with CHina.On the other hand Pakistanis will be more than Happy on being adopted by their best friend. Also it will give you guys ditect access to Indian Ocean and Arabian sea. Its win win situation for both pet and master .

 

[civfanatic]

well Tibet was also a sovereign state before it was merged forcefully with CHina.On the other hand Pakistanis will be more than Happy on being adopted by their best friend. Also it will give you guys ditect access to Indian Ocean and Arabian sea. Its win win situation for both pet and master .

This scenario is simply not possible. The moment the first PLA soldier sets foot into Pakistan proper, expect a massive US/India-financed Balochistan independence war, a million riots/uprisings in Pakistan, plus a possible IA intervention in Gilgit-Baltistan.

If either areas are lost Pakistan no longer serves any purpose to China.

 

[Lee Fuchen]

well Tibet was also a sovereign state before it was merged forcefully with CHina.On the other hand Pakistanis will be more than Happy on being adopted by their best friend. Also it will give you guys ditect access to Indian Ocean and Arabian sea. Its win win situation for both pet and master .

map of Qing Dynasty

When Kublai Khan founded the Yuan Dynasty in 1271, Tibet became a part of it.
and The Qing Dynasty put Amdo under their control since 1724, and incorporated eastern Kham into neighbouring Chinese provinces in 1728.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet#13th.2C_14th_and_15th_centuries

I hope you know that

 

[civfanatic]

Somehow I knew this discussion would turn to Tibet eventually...

 

[SHASH2K2]

map of Qing Dynasty

When Kublai Khan founded the Yuan Dynasty in 1271, Tibet became a part of it.
and The Qing Dynasty put Amdo under their control since 1724, and incorporated eastern Kham into neighbouring Chinese provinces in 1728.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet#13th.2C_14th_and_15th_centuries

I hope you know that

I can also take several examples from history to country claims over tibet but we were discussing Pakistan here . what do you say about other pros of merging a friend country of yours in ot china ?

 

[LETHALFORCE]

well Tibet was also a sovereign state before it was merged forcefully with CHina.On the other hand Pakistanis will be more than Happy on being adopted by their best friend. Also it will give you guys ditect access to Indian Ocean and Arabian sea. Its win win situation for both pet and master .

They would have access to arabian sea/persian gulf ;not Indian ocean.

 

[SHASH2K2]

They would have access to arabian sea/persian gulf ;not Indian ocean.

I meant it will be easier for them to reach Indian ocean from Pakistan compared to from CHina .

 

[Tshering22]

Let's see what all is there that Chinese provide to Pakistan:

1-Economic loan
2-Infrastructure projects
3-Education assistance
4-Arms supply
5-Industrial investments
6-Expanding consumer markets
7-Energy and power sector assistance
8-Assistance in international politics
9-Technological and material assistance
10-Zero-interest soft loans


Now tell me, what is left to call Pakistan a sovereign state?

IMO the only thing left is

1-Removal of religion, forming Communist People's Party of Pakistan (CPPP...LOL) and forcing Pakistanis to read Mao's Little Red Book
2-Pakistan Occupied provinces of Gilgit, Treambakeshwar, Shaksgam Valley and "Azad" J&K; which might make it difficult issue for CCP politically.

North Korea still has some discipline... Pakistan is at a even more dangerous turn.

 

[Tshering22]

They would have access to arabian sea/persian gulf ;not Indian ocean.

Anything beyond Pakistan's coast is OUR property in the "Arabian" Sea (since our Navy dominates the area). CCP might like it or hate it, their PLAN cannot party in Arabian sea. I sometimes wonder why the heck is it even called Arabian Sea when Omanis only cover their coast, US fleet is in Persian Gulf and Yemen doesn't even have a decent Navy. Shouldn't "Pashchim Sagar" be a better name for Arabian Sea? Sanskrit name to signify our proprietary logo.?