WikiLeaks Revelations

[anoop_mig25]

yeah very true after all after capturing whole of india vhp and its shout are going to attack america and convert whole of america in to another hindu colony. seriouslly this bunch of stupid of people who can`t even make a good bomb(i am not supporting them) are threat to india according to rahul gandhi , his part theoughout the history of this country has provided back door support to such type of goons so that they could garner minority vote

on other i think its paid news . congrees has already loose muslim in state of bhiar and is varying of loosing muslim votes in various state election is going to be held in future and hence such tactics are begin employed by party. after all such scams and scandalous what do u think party would surelly adopt a strategy to divert public attention

 

[ejazr]

MK Narayan discusses CT and Pakistan with FBI

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/195175
Wednesday, 04 March 2009
SUBJECT: INDIAN NSA SHARES DESIRE FOR COOPERATION WITH DIRECTOR MUELLER

He urged Director Mueller to keep the pressure on Pakistan to prosecute terrorists and dismantle their infrastructure, saying "if you want to end malaria you have to get rid of the swamp."
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In the end, Narayanan maintained, Pakistan will need to fight terrorism for its own purposes, or it will implode. India's interest was not, as one might think, in Pakistan's demise, but rather in a stable Pakistan; "When we say we want a stable Pakistan, it's enlightened self-interest," he said. Given America's experience in dealing with 9/11, Narayanan felt the U.S. should be able to convince Pakistan that if it doesn't deal with terrorism, it won't last.
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7. (S) Narayanan ended the meeting by describing ISI as being the root cause of terrorism in Pakistan, and said that in order to effectively address the problem ISI would need to be seriously reformed. The United States has done a lot to pressure ISI, Narayanan opined, particularly the agency's leadership, however, the current ISI -- and its Pakistan Army leadership would not be capable of sufficient reforms by itself. He argued that lower levels of the organization, who often support terrorist attacks without their superiors' knowledge, would also need to be addressed.

 

[Vikramaditya]

congress is gone this time they will see bihar in all state. Except PM sing and Pranab Mukherjee I don't like any one in congress..

 

[ejazr]

A cable that is probably indicative of monthly updates on India being sent by US embassy. Its covers the month of February this year. It has among other things portrayal of Rahul standing up on his own, Shiv Sena's and Sri Ram Sena's agendas on Valentines and Shah Rukh's "My Name is Khan" movie as well as an update on Tibetan refugee flow that seems to be decreasing.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/249855
Monday, 22 February 2010
SUBJECT: DELHI DIARY, JANUARY 30 - FEBRUARY 19, 2010
My Name Is Rahul
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2. (SBU) Rahul Gandhi's Mumbai visit and his skirmishing with the Maharashtra chauvinist Shiv Sena party shows he is becoming increasingly sure-footed in his political instincts. He first hurled some blunt words at the Thackerays and Shiv Sena's xenophobic agenda. These were widely and sympathetically reported around the country. He then took it a step further when the Shiv Sena issued "Keep Off Maharashtra" threats by going to the Thackeray's home ground of Mumbai, where he continued to take shots at them. He topped it off by showing the common touch when he made a last minute change in his itinerary to travel across town in a second-class train compartment. All in all, a public relations bonanza for Rahul as the press gave wide coverage to his Siv Sena bashing and his train ride. Forty Shiv Sena activists were detained by the police for Rahul's visit.

Don't Talk About My Mother
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3. (U) Not to be outdone, the Shiv Sena has been grabbing headlines in recent days with its attacks on Rahul Gandhi, Reliance Group's Mukesh Ambani and Bollywood icon, Shah Rukh Khan. The Shiv Sena has also been in a tussle with the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), which is the parent organization of its ally, the Bharatiya Janata Party's (BJP), over the rights of North Indian migrants in Mumbai. Media reports a rift between the RSS and the Shiv Sena over the Sena's verbal attacks on migrants from Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. Rahul Gandhi came to the defense of North Indians living and working in Mumbai during an ongoing visit to Bihar by telling press that the Sena was irrelevant and that all Indians had a right to reside freely in India. Shiv Sena supremo Bal Thackeray responded by launching an attack on Rahul Gandhi's "Italian Mummy," referring to Italian-born UPA chief Sonia Gandhi.
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A Peaceful Valentine
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9. (U) The Sri Ram Sena (SRS), a small, fringe Hindu extremist group which has in the past engaged in isolated violence against young men and women celebrating Valentine's Day, lost its momentum this year. The leader of the SRS, Pramod Muthalik, claims that he is fighting for India, the youth, and Indian culture. Valentine's Day, he alleges "is aimed at ruining (Indian) culture." This year, his message was lost, as the Sri Ram Sena joined ranks with the Shiv Sena and spent the days leading up to February 14 fighting the release of Shah Rukh Khan's latest Bollywoodblockbuster. The SRS faced additional humiliation on February 11 when an individual "attacked" Muthalik. While Muthalik was preparing to participate in a debate on Valentine's Day in an open air theater, six young men barged in, dragged him off stage, and blackened his face with ink. The shocked Muthalik fell down during the melee before he could be rescued by his supporters. The police arrested two of the perpetrators and brought three more youths in for questioning. With its leader brought down a peg, the SRS was not heard from during this year's Valentine's Day celebrations.

Update on Tibetan Refugee Flow
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10. (C) XXXXXXXXXXXX told PolOff on February 4 that an average of 2,500 to 3,500 refugees from Tibet typically arrive in Dharamsala each year, with most returning to Tibet after receiving an audience with the Dalai Lama. XXXXXXXXXXXX confirmed that from 1980 to November 2009 87,096 refugees were processed by the Dharamsala Reception Center (RC) and that 46,620 returned to Tibet after a short pilgrimage in India. Most of those who do stay in India are children who then attend schools run by Tibetan Children's Villages. XXXXXXXXXXXX and XXXXXXXXXXXX both highlighted to PolOff that, following the March 2008 uprising in Tibet, the number of Tibetan refugees markedly decreased, with only about 650 refugees arriving at the RC from April 2008 to March 2009. XXXXXXXXXXXX speculated that Beijing has asked Kathmandu to step up patrols of Nepali border forces and make it more difficult for Tibetans to enter Nepal. XXXXXXXXXXXX reiterated this belief to PolOff during a XXXXXXXXXXXX meeting in Delhi, stating "the Chinese government rewards (Nepali forces)" by providing financial incentives to officers who hand over Tibetans attempting to exit China. XXXXXXXXXXXX was optimistic that flow of refugees will soon go back to normal levels because admission statistics for 2010 are surpassing those from an equivalent period in 2009.

 

[sob]

So Rahul baba had a bad nightmare and went to Uncle Sam to hold his hands while he changed his wet pajamas.

Pathetic stuff and we see people like MMS calling him the future of India. If his Grandmother would have been alive he would sure have a pair of sore bums.

 

[ejazr]

So the actual quote from the cable was actually is below. No mention of Hindu Terror anywhere. This tagging of tagging of Terror with religious groups might be good for TRP ratings but something which is unfortunate.

5. (C) Responding to the Ambassador's query about Lashkar-e-Taiba's activities in the region and immediate threat to India, Gandhi said there was evidence of some support for the group among certain elements in India's indigenous Muslim community. However, Gandhi warned, the bigger threat may be the growth of radicalized Hindu groups, which create religious tensions and political confrontations with the Muslim community. (Comment: Gandhi was referring to the tensions created by some of the more polarizing figures in the BJP such as Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi.) The risk of a "home-grown" extremist front, reacting to terror attacks coming from Pakistan or from Islamist groups in India, was a growing concern and one that demanded constant attention.

The entire cable is here

SUBJECT: REACHING OUT TO RAHUL GANDHI AND OTHER YOUNG PARLIAMENTARIANS

1. (C) Summary: In a candid conversation with the Ambassador during the July 20 lunch hosted by Prime Minister Singh for the Secretary, Indian Congress Party General Secretary Rahul Gandhi described his focus on upcoming state and local elections, expressed concerns regarding the challenges surrounding the UPA coalition's ability to implement its programs, and speculated about radicalization among Hindus and Muslims. Gandhi was interested in engaging with the Ambassador and could become a key interlocutor, along with other young members of Parliament, as we pursue a Strategic Dialogue with India. End Summary.

2. (C) During the Secretary's July 20 meetings in New Delhi (see reftel), Prime Minister Singh hosted a lunch in honor of the Secretary. Among the invitees was Indian Congress Party General Secretary Rahul Gandhi, as well as other prominent figures from politics, business and civil society. Gandhi, who was seated next to the Ambassador, shared his views on a range of political topics, social challenges, and electoral issues for the Congress Party in the next five years.

Rural Strategy

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3. (C) Gandhi stressed that his focus in the upcoming months would be on state assembly elections in Maharashtra and party building efforts at the local level. He was busy trying to recruit more appealing candidates to run for Member of Legislative Assembly (MLA) positions nationwide. Gandhi's focus was on finding younger party members who would not carry some of the baggage of older Congress candidates. He aimed at rebuilding party structures in small towns and rural areas to attract voters and believed the main opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) was vulnerable there. He did not seem to be as focused on electoral efforts in bigger cities, such as Delhi and Mumbai.

Honeymoon is Over

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4. (C) Noting that the Congress Party victory in this past spring's parliamentary elections had put the United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government in a comfortable position, Gandhi still expressed concerns about the numerous challenges regarding the UPA's ability to implement its programs in Parliament. He said that the honeymoon period had been short and he now expected the BJP and Left Parties would be unrelenting critics of the government's program. Speaking while the budget session of Parliament was ongoing, Gandhi touched on the difficulties in keeping the UPA coalition on the right track. (Note: This conversation took place before the full scope of opposition to the July 16 Indo-Pakistani joint statement in Sharm el Sheikh had become apparent. End Note.)

Creeping Radicalization?

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5. (C) Responding to the Ambassador's query about Lashkar-e-Taiba's activities in the region and immediate threat to India, Gandhi said there was evidence of some support for the group among certain elements in India's indigenous Muslim community. However, Gandhi warned, the bigger threat may be the growth of radicalized Hindu groups, which create religious tensions and political confrontations with the Muslim community. (Comment: Gandhi was referring to the tensions created by some of the more polarizing figures in the BJP such as Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi.) The risk of a "home-grown" extremist front, reacting to terror attacks coming from Pakistan or from Islamist groups in India, was a growing concern and one that demanded constant attention.

Comment

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6. (C) Gandhi was forthright in describing the challenges faced by the Congress Party and the UPA government in the months ahead. Over the past four years, he was an elusive contact, but he could be interested in reaching out to the United States, given a thoughtful, politically sensitive and strategic approach on our part. We will seek other opportunities to engage with him and with other promising

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young members of the new generation of parliamentarians. Gandhi mentioned that in the recent election 60 members of the new Parliament were 45 or younger. In a system long viewed as relatively static, the influx of new faces and the rising profile of young leaders like Rahul Gandhi provides us an opening to expand the constituency in support of the strategic partnership with a long term horizon.

 

[ganesh177]

There was this great grand mother of his who did not bowed down to any US pressure and broke pakistan into 2 with such efficiency.

And here is this guy who is ready to be a american dog even before he creates any political profile for himself in india. Next time go beg for your votes in america.

 

[ejazr]

A flattering view how America views India's contribution in Afghanistan. Other than education, training for professionals and trade, US officials wanted to get Indian Bollywood stars to travel to Afghanistan to bring attention to social issues there.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/102286
Wednesday, 28 March 2007
SUBJECT: OPPORTUNITIES FOR INDIAN SOFT POWER IN AFGHANISTAN

1. (C) SUMMARY: As requested, this cable contains specific, concrete ideas for opportunities for India to use soft power in helping Afghanistan's reconstruction, with the broader objective of seeking ways for the U.S. to synergize its efforts with Afghanistan's "natural ally." Some of the ideas are new, many are not, but the intent is to develop a brief reference for the opportunities which are available. India has significant aid to offer, including affordable Indian professionals (versus more expensive Westerners), energy production, and training capabilities in areas such as law enforcement, election commission training, foreign service training, and administrative services, much of which can be relatively cheaply accomplished in India.
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People-to-People
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8. (C) India was proud to provide food aid (in the form of high protein biscuits) during the 2002 "Back to School" campaign, as well as humanitarian assistance in earthquake relief in 2002. Should such a need arise again, India should be one of the first countries Afghanistan turns to. People-to-people exchanges are also popular in India with several NGOs promoting youth and cultural exchanges with counterparts in Pakistan and the U.S. If and when appropriate, India should be encouraged to develop exchange programs with symbolic significance, such as inviting the Afghan national women's soccer team, or kids from the Afghan Youth Sports Exchange (maximum exposure if they have anyone willing to come to play cricket). As is being done in another exchange program here, young Afghans could be invited to visit top Indian (or locally-based American?) corporations in the field of their interest to take on short internships. Numerous other possibilities exist, but one other area that seems ripe is Bollywood. We understand Bollywood movies are wildly popular in Afghanistan, so willing Indian celebrities could be asked to travel to Afghanistan to help bring attention to social issues there.

 

[thakur_ritesh]

there are two sides to this discussion:

1 rahul had no business what so ever to talk about this with an american official, no matter what the rank but for some reason since the time UPA took over they have gone to the US/overseas or in private/public discussed with the americans with an attempt to bash opposition/internal issues, which is very unlike the past. indians have always been known to settle all the internal issues with in ourselves and not overseas or in front of outsiders or by involving the outsiders and this needs to be stopped by the UPA right away.

2 much like the way the sleeper/active cells of LeT, or simi or im have to be taken to task similarly the people behind malegaon/samjhota train/ajmer blasts have to be taken to task no matter what the religious affiliations, if there is extremism amounting to terrorism then it has to be culled. india cant be made another pakistan just because it hurts religious sentiments of few or of majority!

 

[ejazr]

MEA had meeting in 2006 over various Terrorims related issues. Highlights include the threat of bio-terrorism, aviation security including hijacking related policies and counter-terrorism training and intel sharing. More interesting though was Indian intel on links between Al-Qaida and Pakistan based terror groups.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/65230?intcmp=239
Wednesday, 24 May 2006
SUBJECT: EMBASSY AND MEA HOLD PRODUCTIVE, FOCUSED CTJWG FOLLOW-UP MEETING IN DELHI

Alleging Direct Links Between al-Qa'ida and Islamabad
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4. (S) Singh asserted that Pakistan's ISI retains connections to al-Qa'ida and has been privy to Usama bin Ladin's communications. To the DCM's question of information on operational links, Joint Secretary (Cabinet Secretariat, i.e. RAW) Sharad Kumar stated that Indian intelligence has transcripts of pre-9/11 meetings between UBL and Mullah Omar during which terrorism in J&K was discussed. He continued that UBL had been "willing to divert $20 million" from Central Asian programming to support Kashmir-oriented terrorism, and that UBL was quoted saying the Kashmiri jihadis "would not run short of funds." Kumar added that when UBL sent his bodyguard contingent to help the Taliban fight the Northern Alliance, the temporary chief of his security force was an unnamed individual who went on to join Jaish-e-Mohammad. Singh ascribed al-Qa'ida's increasing interest in India to the July 18 civil nuclear agreement. "ISI seeks to heat things up" to interfere with growing US-India convergence, he claimed.

 

[Ray]

Gandhi said there was evidence of some support for the group among certain elements in India's indigenous Muslim community. However, Gandhi warned, the bigger threat may be the growth of radicalized Hindu groups, which create religious tensions and political confrontations with the Muslim community.

First of all, who is the US Ambassador that he has to be told of personal apprehensions. Being the son of the actual Policy Maker of the country, his opinions maybe taken as the view of his mother. Hence, when reported back to the US, will become a negative input in formulating the US foreign policy towards India.

Secondly, What is 'growth of radicalized Hindu groups'? If there are such groups then it should be mentioned without any fear. But mere kiteflying tantamount to loose talk that can affect India's integrity and internal peace. Apparently, it is no innocent talk because Digvijay Singh is already parroting such sentiments like a loose cannon. Hence, it must be the official Congress thinking, more so, since none have rebutted the same.

Whipping religious sentiments out of thin air is anti national and anti secular. We already have enough of ugly incidents because of the religious divide fanned by politicians of all hues and affectation.

It is time politicians just shut their mouth up and stop dividing us for cheap political gains. And that means all politicians!

It is insulting to take Muslims to be fools and adopt this British 'Mai Baap' concept over them. They can defend themselves and they understand what is for their good and what is eyewash. Bihar has taught the country a lesson that vote bank politics of caste, community, religion is passé and only development in infrastructure and societal justice is what will allow politicians to park their posteriors to warm the seats of governance!

 

[sean]

RAHUL GANDHI'S LEGITIMATE SAFFRON THREAT

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_O8dgmi58k-Y/SgAkQ3m5vdI/AAAAAAAAAJg/OtAigtcPWg8/s400/veronica.jpg

 

[johnee]

Wow!! Not LeT, not pakistani nukes, not maoists, not separatists....the biggest threat to India according to our Yuvraaj is Saffron Terror. And how many 'saffron terrorists' have been sentenced by Court? Not one AFAIK. The hapless sadhus and sadhvis who got apprehended have not been proved guilty even to this day. And while the ATS was going after the 'sadhus and sadhvis', Indian Mujahideen is gaining its supposedly lost ground brazenly.

The really amazing part about the views is that they are being shared with American ambassador....!!! Really amazing!!

Even the diehard fan of Gs would be hard-pressed to defend the sillyness of this Yuvraaj.

 

[SHASH2K2]

 

[SHASH2K2]

Wow!! Not LeT, not pakistani nukes, not maoists, not separatists....the biggest threat to India according to our Yuvraaj is Saffron Terror. And how many 'saffron terrorists' have been sentenced by Court? Not one AFAIK.
And these views are being shared with American ambassador....!!! Really amazing!!

Even the diehard fan of Gs would be hard-pressed to defend the sillyness of this Yuvraaj.

Any Indian with even iota of shelf respect wouldn't have said that to ambassador of a different country . Even if its true its our internal matter and its not to be discussed with USA ambassador.
I forgot that he is only half Indian and other half is Italian .

 

[neo29]

Rahul has shown immaturity by discussing internal problems with US. Assuming that Hindu terror group exists, it will not be a threat to anyone outside India.

Terror in all forms is evil but branding them Hindu terror and Islamic terror is wrong.

 

[johnee]

Whether saffron terror exists or whether its a political creation is the first question.
Secondly, if it does, then its a reactionary threat which has risen as a result of bad handling the original threat(Pakistan sponsored terror).

So, when the debate is whether 'saffron terror' exists or not, it is a joke to say that it is the biggest threat faced by India especially since threats faced by India are not small. India faces the threat of Pakistan sponsored terrorism, India faces the threat of home-grown Islamic terror cells operated from Pakistan, India faces the threat of official Pakistani nuclear blackmail, India faces the threat of Pakistani nuclear fuel falling into supposedly rogue elements who may explode a dirty bomb in India, India faces the threat of maoists, India faces the threat of maoist sympathisers posing as human rights activists or NGOs, India faces the threat of aggressive China at borders, India faces the threat of Chinese nuclear prolifiration, India faces the threat of Chinese encircling India, India faces the threat of corruption at all levels and all institutions, India faces the threat of seperatists who are openly advocating sedition without any fear of law.....etc etc.

Out of so many threats, if one finds 'saffron terror' as the biggest threat, then he is either a biggest fool on the earth or has devious agenda....

 

[johnee]

And then he shares this view with a foreigner....!!!

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

I doubt his citizenship. I thihnk he has a dual citizenship of both italy and INDIA...........

Always these non-INDIAN guys do this to spoil the name of our country.

"TERRORISM IS NOT RELATED TO ANY RELIGION" "TERRORISM IN ANY FORM MUST BE CONDEMNED"............

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

I doubt his citizenship. I thihnk he has a dual citizenship of both italy and INDIA...........

Always these non-INDIAN guys do this to spoil the name of our country.

"TERRORISM IS NOT RELATED TO ANY RELIGION" "TERRORISM IN ANY FORM MUST BE CONDEMNED"............