Understanding Deobandis, Barelvis, Wahabis, and Shias

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

Fatwa from Deoband does the job as it does against Wahabis. But rather than non muslims, Muslims of these countries must (not just Molvis) rather citizens should start debating this. Only then the agenda will succeed.

And how do they give the fatwas? After reading Koran, not when Indian govt asks them.

As long as Indian govt. does not control the fatwas from Deoband, this discussion is just intellectual masturbation.

 

[Screambowl]

Just like in Bangladesh where they wanted to save the Jamaat rapists of 71. As far as hatred towards India is concerned Salafist == Deobandi.

salafist == deobandi because we failed and still failing to create the difference.

I don't know why we are even discussing deobandi link or other crap when @asingh10 put that out of the question in his very first reply

 

[Screambowl]

OP has some delusional view on Islam, Hindus are now one political unit(India). Islam in Indian subcontinent failed in 1947 what ever left is destroyed totally in 1971.Now these 3 hates each other.

Now come to the point, conversions:There are 2 golden methods following from millionum Carrot&Stick

Offer carrots first,if he refuses give some thrashes then again carrots contd...... till your goal reached

What are carrots ?
Who will thrash them ?

Every one including RSS/VHP/Soc media/Media/You &Me all can play role in it.

Enough for todays lessons

I am not interested in domestic problems , because if the outside funders are weak the things will come under control inside too.

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

Again dude, all of what you are talking about are state responsibility and not Central responsibility. It can only change if the state govts change!

Giving protection to Church-yes. But monitoring-no. GoI has unlimited IB and other resources. You subvert the orignal deal, GoI cuts the funding.

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

salafist == deobandi because we failed and still failing to create the difference.

You started this thread and still not able to see that all muslim schools boil down to the same hatred towards kafirs.

 

[Mad Indian]

Giving protection to Church-yes. But monitoring-no. GoI has unlimited IB and other resources. You subvert the orignal deal, GoI cuts the funding.

So how will getting protection from police happen if the center has no control over it? And central govt can't control the funds. Has it stopped the funding of the missionaries? Not as far as I know

 

[Screambowl]

And how do they give the fatwas? After reading Koran, not when Indian govt asks them.

As long as Indian govt. does not control the fatwas from Deoband, this discussion is just intellectual masturbation.

why cannot Indian government do it? That's the main issue. It's a failure.

That's what I am saying. If we are able to infiltrate into it and run according to national interest that will be a major success.

 

[Screambowl]

You started this thread and still not able to see that all muslim schools boil down to the same hatred towards kafirs.

all muslims schools also call each other Kuffr or munafiqs, if from different sects, Sir, hope you know this? Or not.

Recently in Pakistan there was a PIL filed against Ahmadiya Muslims asking ban on Ahmadiyas to slaughter on eid.

You have to point out small small issues. Just like ISI does when it's regarding Casteism in India.

Otherwise if you leave everything on RSS then you are a dead meat!

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

why cannot Indian government do it? That's the main issue. It's a failure.

That's what I am saying. If we are able to infiltrate into it and run according to national interest that will be a major success.

Not unless India becomes USSR. So, it is a failed idea to begin with.

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

So how will getting protection from police happen if the center has no control over it? And central govt can't control the funds. Has it stopped the funding of the missionaries? Not as far as I know

They can buy their own protection. The Church buys local politicians even to convert hindus. It is like complete outsourcing.

All these NGO trash talk was generated because GOI cut down their funding. It is very much possible.

 

[Screambowl]

Are you alright ,One who failed to control/correct his home can't do anything outside of his home.Just clean your filth in your home first later start cleaning neighbors house.

It's not possible. Both the task must run parallel. other wise it will fail.

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

all muslims schools also call each other Kuffr or munafiqs, if from different sects, Sir, hope you know this? Or not.

Recently in Pakistan there was a PIL filed against Ahmadiya Muslims asking ban on Ahmadiyas to slaughter on eid.

You have to point out small small issues. Just like ISI does when it's regarding Casteism in India.

Otherwise if you leave everything on RSS then you are a dead meat!

Do you think India needs to intervene to instigate Sunnis, shias and Ahmedias kill each other in Pak? It is happening without Indian interference because that is how Islam works. India just needs to buy popcorn and let Pak self-destruct itself, the way it did in 71, until the last moment.

 

[Screambowl]

Not unless India becomes USSR. So, it is a failed idea to begin with.

That was a lame answer.By the time India becomes USSR, it will be also be the time when it disintegrated. It is a high time. And this should start. I am sure they do but they should gain some momentum.

Do you think India needs to intervene to instigate Sunnis, shias and Ahmedias kill each other in Pak? It is happening without Indian interference because that is how Islam works. India just needs to buy popcorn and let Pak self-destruct itself, the way it did in 71, until the last moment.

We do not have time. It has to be done quick. max 2 decades. Momentum must gain!

And yes, India has right to intervene covertly, finally we have the second highest Muslim population. You see. And some of them have relatives in Pakistan. Specially Mohajirs, who are Husainis(Shias)

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

That was a lame answer.By the time India becomes USSR, it will be also be the time when it disintegrated. It is a high time. And this should start. I am sure they do but they should gain some momentum.


We do not have time. It has to be done quick. max 2 decades. Momentum must gain!

And yes, India has right to intervene, finally we have the second highest Muslim population. You see. And some of them have relatives in Pakistan. Specially Mohajirs, who are Husainis(Shias)

Bhai, USSR means to be able to suppress the Madarsas to teach what we want and not in disintegration sense.

 

[Screambowl]

Are you alright,17% Muslims in Israel&Russia but no Muslim in those countries make drama like Indian Muslims do (supporting terrorists,over acting,attacks on majority,Media support etc etc).They thrashed/killed like DOGS on streets.
I repeat clean your FILTH in your home first.World will automatically respects you

yes you start cleaning filth and ISI starts funding with Saudi help and make India a battle ground like Kashmir. Shabashh

I am saying do it, but through propaganda war. You cannot break Islam without propaganda war in South Asia!

You block the fundings to Madrassas from Saudi first.. try doing it.. pata chal jayenga do din mein. How India becomes a battle ground.


you guys are in school?

 

[Rowdy]

Arey bhayya No BLASTS/RIOTS inside Israel/Russia only filthy country India suffering from inside terrorism/KASHMIR. Even BUDDHISTS kills Muslims like DOGS but there is NO BLASTS/RIOTS inside ISR/RUS/BUR.Simple.
Only cowards thinks cleaning outside unable to control inside, that is called escapism.

What putin did to Chechnya after the school bombing was Genius ........
This is how you F**K with Islamofascists.
Starting 13:30

 

[Mad Indian]

You have to point out small small issues. Just like ISI does when it's regarding Casteism in India.

What a moron. So isi is the one which raises casteism in India

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

What a moron. So isi is the one which raises casteism in India

We were paid by ISI when we were bashing brahmins 2-3 days ago!!

 

[Rowdy]

We were paid by ISI when we were bashing brahmins 2-3 days ago!!

 

[asingh10]

IMO there is a big threat from the facade of progressive Islamism that suited-booted mullahs like Nouman Ali Khan and Zakir Naik propagate. Very good speakers and can rouse a crowd. Digital India is a good initiative but GOI should keep a check and censor/block online propaganda.