Three Chinese held for photographing troopers' camps

[JayATL]

http://www.sify.com/news/three-chin...troopers-camps-news-national-lbrx4deejdd.html


Bahraich (Uttar Pradesh), Jan 17 (IANS) Three Chinese nationals, including a woman, were held by paramilitary personnel after they were found taking the photographs of their camps along the Indo-Nepal border in this Uttar Pradesh district Monday, police said.

The three were caught by Sashastra Seema Bal (SSB) personnel while they were taking photos.

'As of now, I can only confirm that the three Chinese are in police custody. SSB personnel handed over the three to us,' Superintendent of Police Sanjay Kakkad told IANS. Bahraich is some 140 km from Lucknow.

'Investigations are on to gather more information about the three. It's too early to say anything in connection with the case,' said Kakkad, who refused to comment anything further on the matter.

'Preliminary investigations indicate of the three, two are engineers and were looking after some installation of mobile towers in Nepalganj,' a police official told IANS.

'We are facing a lot of communication problems while interacting with them,' he added.

 

[JayATL]

why is the local police involved and not the federal police? this is a potential espionage case. hmm , do you guys have a federal police like the FBI?

 

[SHASH2K2]

3 suspected Chinese spies arrested at Indo-Nepal border

3 suspected Chinese spies arrested at Indo-Nepal border
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BAHRAICH: Paramilitary personnel of Sashastra Seema Bal (SSB) arrested three suspected Chinese spies, including a woman who were spotted taking photographs of their camps on Rupaidiha checkpost of the Indo-Nepal border.

Superintendent of Police Sanjay Kakkar told TOI that SSB jawans held three Chinese nationals, Mipix Utidong, Hanksang and Chainlong, all residents of Shanghai, on Monday night. The Chinese nationals were spotted taking photographs of the SSB camp, Indo-Nepal gate and activities of the SSB. Kakkar added that they did not possess passports and visas and entered Indian territory illegally. The SP said that during interrogation, the Chinese nationals claimed that they were engineers working in Nepal on a Chinese project.

Intelligence agencies deployed on the Indo-Nepal border are interrogating them through translators. During interrogation it was learnt that they had arrived by a vehicle till the border, parked the vehicle there and then entered Indian territory on foot.

SSB Commandant Devanand said that prima facie it seemed that they had come here as spies. He said that three other Chinese were held recently while taking pictures and sent to Delhi after interrogation.

Ever since the Maoist government took over in Nepal, the movement of Chinese nationals on the Indo-Nepal porous border has increased considerably. This has been a matter of concern for many intelligence agencies deployed on the Indo-Nepal border. The Indian intelligence agencies are also worried over the opening of Chinese language learning centres for Nepalese citizens on the Indo-Nepal border.

Indian intelligence agencies are on high alert after receiving inputs about infiltration of six Chinese intelligence agents into India illegally through the Indo-Nepal border.

As per security agencies deployed on the UP-Nepal border, the Chinese agents disguised as Buddhist monks entered India and have taken shelter in different Tibetan monasteries of Shravasti. These agents, according to the intelligence, include a woman and are connected with Kubum Boddh monastery governed by Eastern Tibet. Their infiltration has increased the threat to the lives of Tibetan religious head Dalai Lama and his close aides.

The Chinese agents disguised as monks sought special permission from Indian Embassy in Nepal to visit India in the month of December, sources said. The Indian Embassy on enquiry found their connection with Chinese intelligence agencies and their application was rejected.

According to the intelligence agencies, the Chinese agents however managed to sneak into India through the Indo-Nepal border and are in the age group of 18 to 35 years. As per intelligence agencies, these agents are staying in different Tibetan monasteries and are jointly carrying out their mission while the female agent is working independently. These agents have been sent to spy on Dalai Lama and his aides, it is believed.

Read more: 3 suspected Chinese spies arrested at Indo-Nepal border - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-border/articleshow/7311173.cms#ixzz1BNewKWSc

 

[maomao]

Good Job!!.....I hope they catch more such people!

 

[Oracle]

Excellent! Now can we finish terrorist hideouts in the jungles of NE please, which act as listening posts for the Chinese.

 

[Blackwater]

why is the local police involved and not the federal police? this is a potential espionage case. hmm , do you guys have a federal police like the FBI?

FBI, i suppose is not police its a investigative agency. at par with FBI we got NIA and CBI

 

[JayATL]

FBI is still a police/ law enforcement arm that comes in and helps local police on possible federal crimes committed, like crimes done in multiple states or espionage etc etc . Think of them like natio0nal police.

local PD in the US has a jurisdiction limit, they can't just go into another county or state. this crime of photographing military sites is a federal crime not just a local/state crime. thus I would imagine NIA or CBI would/should be involved.

 

[redragon]

It's about time that some one to stop this nasty habit of taking pics of anything that chinese tourists have, they deserve this lesson.

 

[SHASH2K2]

Mods please merge these two threads. http://defenceforumindia.com/showthread.php?t=18256

 

[JayATL]

It's about time that some one to stop this nasty habit of taking pics of anything that chinese tourists have, they deserve this lesson.

they were tourist, has that been established? or more nefarious characters?

 

[SHASH2K2]

Well they were tourists actually. As per CCP whole India belong to China and those chinese citizens have every right to roam freely in China. Actually its stupid Indian police form which kidnapped them from China and is holding them hostage.

 

[Ray]

Let's not speculate and cuss.

I wish the tourists asked someone if they could photograph and then take the photos.

If I were in a foreign country, I would be wary since I would not know the language nor their laws.

In fact, I would not mind if they had a 'minder' on me to escort.

 

[JayATL]

^^ true dat. I was in Pune visiting my brother and my wife and kids where being driven around , when I took a video of some military buildings( beautiful , seemed like English era buildings) , and got this soldier yelling at me .. ha

 

[redragon]

Let's not speculate and cuss.

I wish the tourists asked someone if they could photograph and then take the photos.

If I were in a foreign country, I would be wary since I would not know the language nor their laws.

In fact, I would not mind if they had a 'minder' on me to escort.

2 reasons
1. believe or not, even a lot Chinese travelling around the world, only a small portion can speak English, so some warning signs don't mean too much to them.
2. You won't believe this one for sure, but Chinese people are so use to do thing without considering consequences in China, because more or less they always know "some one" who can help them settle the issue they created, so bearing that in their minds, they don't have the sense of "worry" even when they are going abroad.

 

[tarunraju]

If they're not spies, they don't have to worry, they won't be put though water-torture. At most the police will scan through their cameras and delete just those files (pictures) which they object to. It's not even like they'll confiscate their memory cards or the camera.

 

[Ray]

2 reasons
1. believe or not, even a lot Chinese travelling around the world, only a small portion can speak English, so some warning signs don't mean too much to them.
2. You won't believe this one for sure, but Chinese people are so use to do thing without considering consequences in China, because more or less they always know "some one" who can help them settle the issue they created, so bearing that in their minds, they don't have the sense of "worry" even when they are going abroad.

I presume if an Indian photographed the same, there would be no hullabaloo.

When a foreigner does it, everyone gets extra security sensitive.

I presume the sentries were worried about the terrorist threat since these are chap who are sort of Frontier Guards and Nepal has a whole lot of Maoists.

 

[SHASH2K2]

3 suspected Chinese spies arrested at Indo-Nepal border​

BAHRAICH: Paramilitary personnel of Sashastra Seema Bal (SSB) arrested three suspected Chinese spies, including a woman who were spotted taking photographs of their camps on Rupaidiha checkpost of the Indo-Nepal border.

Superintendent of Police Sanjay Kakkar told TOI that SSB jawans held three Chinese nationals, Mipix Utidong, Hanksang and Chainlong, all residents of Shanghai, on Monday night. The Chinese nationals were spotted taking photographs of the SSB camp, Indo-Nepal gate and activities of the SSB. Kakkar added that they did not possess passports and visas and entered Indian territory illegally. The SP said that during interrogation, the Chinese nationals claimed that they were engineers working in Nepal on a Chinese project.

Intelligence agencies deployed on the Indo-Nepal border are interrogating them through translators. During interrogation it was learnt that they had arrived by a vehicle till the border, parked the vehicle there and then entered Indian territory on foot.

SSB Commandant Devanand said that prima facie it seemed that they had come here as spies. He said that three other Chinese were held recently while taking pictures and sent to Delhi after interrogation.

Ever since the Maoist government took over in Nepal, the movement of Chinese nationals on the Indo-Nepal porous border has increased considerably. This has been a matter of concern for many intelligence agencies deployed on the Indo-Nepal border. The Indian intelligence agencies are also worried over the opening of Chinese language learning centres for Nepalese citizens on the Indo-Nepal border.

Indian intelligence agencies are on high alert after receiving inputs about infiltration of six Chinese intelligence agents into India illegally through the Indo-Nepal border.

As per security agencies deployed on the UP-Nepal border, the Chinese agents disguised as Buddhist monks entered India and have taken shelter in different Tibetan monasteries of Shravasti. These agents, according to the intelligence, include a woman and are connected with Kubum Boddh monastery governed by Eastern Tibet. Their infiltration has increased the threat to the lives of Tibetan religious head Dalai Lama and his close aides.

The Chinese agents disguised as monks sought special permission from Indian Embassy in Nepal to visit India in the month of December, sources said. The Indian Embassy on enquiry found their connection with Chinese intelligence agencies and their application was rejected.

According to the intelligence agencies, the Chinese agents however managed to sneak into India through the Indo-Nepal border and are in the age group of 18 to 35 years. As per intelligence agencies, these agents are staying in different Tibetan monasteries and are jointly carrying out their mission while the female agent is working independently. These agents have been sent to spy on Dalai Lama and his aides, it is believed.


Read more: 3 suspected Chinese spies arrested at Indo-Nepal border - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-border/articleshow/7311173.cms#ixzz1BPuCypIX

 

[pmaitra]

I presume if an Indian photographed the same, there would be no hullabaloo.

When a foreigner does it, everyone gets extra security sensitive.

I presume the sentries were worried about the terrorist threat since these are chap who are sort of Frontier Guards and Nepal has a whole lot of Maoists.

Ray Sir, I'd slightly differ with you and provide my humble point:

There are some installations, like railway stations, where even employees are not allowed to take photos. I know, for example, IRFCA members, actually meet the CPRO or PRO of the Zonal Railways to get approval so that they can take photographs of trains. Yes, a person can be fined and his camera confiscated by RPF for taking pictures on property of Indian Railways. However, if one takes photos of trains standing away from railway property (land belonging to railways), then it is beyond the jurisdiction of RPF.

Obviously, anything to do with Ministry of Defense is more sensitive than Ministry of Railways.

 

[The Messiah]

If they were japanese then they could be excused since japanese like to take picture of everything when in another country.

 

[Ray]

I just read the newspapers.

They were Chinese, who were working in Nepal and had come over into India without passports or visas.

It will be recalled that the formalities along the Indo Nepal borders are minimal, if not, non existent.