The Syrian Crisis

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https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5232786,00.html

Israelis are not impressed with the result of US-French-UK strikes :

« Officials in Israel's defense establishment, including in the Mossad, estimate Assad has been able to keep 5-10 percent of his chemical weapons stockpiles after the signing of an agreement to disarm Syria of its chemical weapons in September 2013, and he has been making attempts to hide what's left.
After US President Donald Trump began making threats last week of an imminent strike, the Syrians have made additional efforts to move away, scatter and hide planes, launching measures and munitions.
According to Israeli appraisals, since the signing of the 2013 agreement, Syria has used chemical weapons in about 100 instances, with 100 additional inconclusive cases. Assad has reportedly used sarin and mustard gas in these attacks, but not VX, the most lethal of the chemical weapons in his possession, as he is believed to be saving it as a "doomsday weapon." The Syrian president also makes frequent use of chlorine, which the US failed to include in the original agreement.
Based on the information gathered so far, only some of the chemical weapons facilities known to Israel were destroyed in the US-led attack.
However, an Israeli official noted, "Even if all of them had been destroyed, they don't include all of the chemical weapons, some of which is difficult to tell where the Syrians had hidden them."
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If Israel thinks Assad has used chemical weapons 200 times they must think every white cloud is a gas attack. Of course they are brain washed from birth to think that way.
 

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THE HAGUE, Netherlands — 21 April 2018 —The Fact-Finding Mission (FFM) team of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) visited one of the sites in Douma, Syrian Arab Republic today to collect samples for analysis in connection with allegations of chemical weapons use on 7 April 2018. The OPCW will evaluate the situation and consider future steps including another possible visit to Douma.

The samples collected will be transported to the OPCW Laboratory in Rijswijk and then dispatched for analysis to the OPCW’s designated labs. Based on the analysis of the sample results as well other information and materials collected by the team, the FFM will compile their report for submission to the States Parties to the Chemical Weapons Convention for their consideration.
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Finally gentlemen ... never too late.
 

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THE HAGUE, Netherlands — 21 April 2018 —The Fact-Finding Mission (FFM) team of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) visited one of the sites in Douma, Syrian Arab Republic today to collect samples for analysis in connection with allegations of chemical weapons use on 7 April 2018. The OPCW will evaluate the situation and consider future steps including another possible visit to Douma.

The samples collected will be transported to the OPCW Laboratory in Rijswijk and then dispatched for analysis to the OPCW’s designated labs. Based on the analysis of the sample results as well other information and materials collected by the team, the FFM will compile their report for submission to the States Parties to the Chemical Weapons Convention for their consideration.
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Finally gentlemen ... never too late.
They will visit Douma and check if chemical weapons were used. But they still will not be able to prove that Assad used them if any chemicals are found. It is far more likely that Al Nusra (branch of Al queda) or ISIS was behind this to get much needed help from the west against Assad, since they were losing badly before this. Hope you guys feel good for being Al Queda's air support.
 

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QUOTE="nongaddarliberal, post: 1424296, member: 22072"]They will visit Douma and check if chemical weapons were used. But they still will not be able to prove that Assad used them if any chemicals are found. It is far more likely that Al Nusra (branch of Al queda) or ISIS was behind this to get much needed help from the west against Assad, since they were losing badly before this. Hope you guys feel good for being Al Queda's air support.[/QUOTE]

I will feel good the day Assad is in a cell in The Hague. Long wait :sad:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...nce-report-on-syria-gas-attacks-idUSKBN1HL0N1
 

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QUOTE="nongaddarliberal, post: 1424296, member: 22072"]They will visit Douma and check if chemical weapons were used. But they still will not be able to prove that Assad used them if any chemicals are found. It is far more likely that Al Nusra (branch of Al queda) or ISIS was behind this to get much needed help from the west against Assad, since they were losing badly before this. Hope you guys feel good for being Al Queda's air support.
Right, and how good do you feel about the slave markets in Libya after taking out Gaddafi? Or what your friends did to Iraq? Try and learn from history.
 

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Right, and how good do you feel about the slave markets in Libya after taking out Gaddafi? Or what your friends did to Iraq? Try and learn from history.
Every country or situation is different. Iraq , Syria, Iran, Libya are all different situations calling for different solutions. It is not because the invasion of Iraq was wrong that any kind of intervention in a country is wrong. I can support intervention in Syria and at the same time not recommending a war on Iran.
 

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Every country or situation is different. Iraq , Syria, Iran, Libya are all different situations calling for different solutions. It is not because the invasion of Iraq was wrong that any kind of intervention in a country is wrong. I can support intervention in Syria and at the same time not recommending a war on Iran.
Each country and situation is different, but by the time the western powers are done with it through their "interventions", the results are the same. At least as far as the middle east is concerned.
 

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As a result of the inspection of the liberated city of the Duma, the Syrian special services discovered a huge warehouse with weapons.

 

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From open sources say:

Israel, almost confirmed, the delivery of the S-300 to Syria is .
delivered by Antonov, one of the biggest cargo planes arrived.
According to rumors in Syria itself, the S-300 was brought.

 

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Each country and situation is different, but by the time the western powers are done with it through their "interventions", the results are the same. At least as far as the middle east is concerned.
Funny coincidence is that all these countries produce oil and defied America in some or other way.

After American intervention, all these countries were destroyed beyond repair (almost)

You may deny your hand iraq conflict, but you're responsible for destruction of Libya. ISIS had plans to enter Libya, fortunately it is defeated (almost).

If we ask you anymore you might even say that Assad is cruel than ISIS........

I understand that Europe wants energy security, Syria wasn't cooperating (will not cooperate after all of this). A quick look into wiki showed that less than 12,000 came to France. If everything (according to Nato) goes as planned then France gets great deal for very small price. Ofcourse displacement of over six million people and hundreds of thousands of death doesn't matter. Energy security and cheap gas matters and nothing else!!!
 

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« State-run television in Russia used behind-the-scenes photographs from a Syrian film as evidence that the reported chemical attack was staged.

Russia and its ally Syria deny Western claims that scores of people were gassed to death in the suspected attack on the Syrian town of Douma on April 7.

Russian officials insist the attack was “staged,” a claim that the fact-checking website Snopes.com dismisses as “false” given that old film stills have been proffered as proof.

Both Channel One and Rossia 1’s flagship Sunday news show “Vesti Nedeli” used photographs from a Syrian-born director’s 2016 film shoot as evidence that anti-government forces falsified the chemical attacks.

“Western politicians and the press are ignoring clear proof that there was no chemical attack in the Syrian city of Douma,” a Channel One anchorwoman said Sunday as stills from the movie set appeared on screen. »

More funny efforts by Russian media to help their darling Assad

https://t.co/azBWIV3wTp
 

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If Israel thinks Assad has used chemical weapons 200 times they must think every white cloud is a gas attack. Of course they are brain washed from birth to think that way.
Is there some kind of anti israeli bias in that comment ?

I think Israel is definitely the best informed country regarding Syria and its chemical program.
 

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Is there some kind of anti israeli bias in that comment ?

I think Israel is definitely the best informed country regarding Syria and its chemical program.
If they had evidence they should have brought it forward to the UNSC a long time ago.
 

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If they had evidence they should have brought it forward to the UNSC a long time ago.
recently some intercepted Tomahawks & 3 unexploded missiles & some Foreign terrorist trainers from caught in Eastern Ghouta [ most likely British SAS] were send to Russia to present or showcase at International stage...
 

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Macron has not signed any arms deal with KSA in his term.
France, Saudi Arabia sign multiple contracts worth $18bn
Tue Apr 10, 2018 02:57PM


The photo, provided by the Saudi Royal Palace on April 9, 2018, shows French Prime Minister Edouard Philippe (R) welcoming Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman upon his arrival at the Hotel de Matignon in Paris. (AFP photo)


France has managed to sign 20 major agreements with Saudi Arabia worth $18 billion, sources have revealed at the end of a trip by Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman to Paris.

Al ArabiyaTV, a channel run by the Saudi government, said Tuesday that the agreements covered various economic fields, without elaborating whether they were full contracts or memorandums of understanding.

The mega deals come at the end of a trip by bin Salman to France, a country he has managed to build close relations with over the past years. Earlier reports had suggested that the bulk of the deals, around $10 billion, were related to cooperation in the oil sector between the state oil giant Saudi Aramco on one side and major French companies including Total, Technip and Suez, on the other.


The photo, provided by the Saudi Royal Palace on April 9, 2018, shows French President Emmanuel Macron (2nd R) and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (L) looking at a painting at the Louvre museum in Paris on April 8, 2018. (AFP photo)
Other reports on Tuesday suggested some of the major deals signed during Salman’s current visit were for arms sale, including a deal for navy patrol boats from French company CMN and another one for Caesar artillery canons from Nexter. The French presidency has played down a possible contract while the two companies in question have also refused to comment.

The French companies have always been among the main suppliers of modern weaponry to Saudi Arabia and Paris has already reached military deals worth around 20 billion with the Saudis.

Most of those weapons have been used in Saudi Arabia’s more than three years of war on its southern neighbor Yemen. Rights groups have repeatedly called on Paris to stop the provision of arms and instead impose pressure on Saudis to stop the carnage which has left more than 14,000 people, mostly civilians, killed since the war started in March 2015. As part of the increasing arms sale, Riyadh has been procured with French tanks, armored vehicles, munitions and artillery and navy ships over the past years.

Reports on Sunday said France and Saudi Arabia had reached an agreement on a new intergovernmental accord to conclude weapons deals. French authorities said the new mechanism was devised to appease bin Salman who was critical of the way the military contracts had been reached and implemented.

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/04/10/558054/France-Saudi-Arabia-deals

France, the world’s third-biggest arms exporter, counts Saudi Arabia among its biggest purchasers, and defense firms including Dassault and Thales have major contracts there.

In recent years, Riyadh has bought French tanks, armored vehicles, munitions and artillery and navy ships.

In 2016, licenses potentially worth 18 billion euros ($22.11 billion) to Saudi were approved, with deliveries worth about 2 billion euros.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-new-defense-contracts-strategy-idUSKBN1HF0DN
 

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Some weapons are of European and western origin such as manufacturers like Thales! I even saw a video on RT, some ATGMs are Israeli made! looked like spike or javelin!!

 

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