Resolution for Independent Balochistan: US Congressman

[Mad Indian]

With a possible war against Iran,US will not destabilize pakistan.

May be may be not, but either way we will benefit....:thumb::thumb:

 

[LETHALFORCE]

May be may be not, but either way we will benefit....:thumb::thumb:

The problem is Pakistan is doing a good job destabilizing itself in trying to preserve their terrorism infrastructure.

 

[Param]

If it serves our Interest, we should back them that is all(Be like the americans, strongest allies of both Saudi Arabia and Israel )..... we are not short of Hypocrisy ourself....

IPKF and Non Interventionism..... what was that....???

The only interest it will serve is western, besides trust me there is not going to be any drastic pro western "regime change" in Iran.

If the West launches a War even the liberal Iranians will become pro mullah.

If Iran becomes pro West, CAR will no longer remain Russian domain.

 

[Mad Indian]

The only interest it will serve is western, besides trust me there is not going to be any drastic pro western "regime change" in Iran.

If the West launches a War even the liberal Iranians will become pro mullah.

If Iran becomes pro West, CAR will no longer remain Russian domain.

secular democratic liberal Iran with NUKES is much much more dangerous to us than a Pariah state Iran without one.....

 

[Param]

secular democratic liberal Iran with NUKES is much much more dangerous to us than a Pariah state Iran without one.....

Iran is no threat to India as long as it's not ally of Pak ,china or US stooge.

 

[Mad Indian]

Iran is no threat to India as long as it's not ally of Pak ,china or US stooge.

you are not considering the chain reactions it will follow... Shia iran with Nukes mean a Sunni demand for Nukes(Saudis to be specific).... this will give excellent chance for Porks to proliferate the Nukes to Sauthis just like they did in NK..... This will again increase the hold Porks will have on the Islamic world... Now how is that desirable to india....????

 

[Param]

you are not considering the chain reactions it will follow... Shia iran with Nukes mean a Sunni demand for Nukes(Saudis to be specific).... this will give excellent chance for Porks to proliferate the Nukes to Sauthis just like they did in NK..... This will again increase the hold Porks will have on the Islamic world... Now how is that desirable to india....????

Saudis already have CSS 2 missiles.You thing such IRBMs are meant to have only conventional warheads. They funded Pak nuke program, do you think they have no access to them?

If the Iranians go public the Saudis too would go public.

I don't favor a nuclear Iran but at the same time I do not like the idea of all out war or a pro West"regime" change.

 

[civfanatic]

In all likelihood this resolution will have no impact. Thousands of such resolutions go through Congress committees every year and most die in the committee stage, never making it to the floor.

 

[Mad Indian]

Saudis already have CSS 2 missiles.You thing such IRBMs are meant to have only conventional warheads. They funded Pak nuke program, do you think they have no access to them?

If the Iranians go public the Saudis too would go public.

I don't favor a nuclear Iran but at the same time I do not like the idea of all out war or a pro West"regime" change.

when we ourselves are leaning to the left, what problem are we gonna get from west....???? How are they even gonna antogonise a Multi centric democracy that to a Moronically peaceful(we dont even hang Kasab ) one....???? i doubt they will sanction us in the 2030s even if we conduct a nuke test...

Excellent allegation you have there... Saudis a secret nuke weapons state.... start a thread about it....

 

[KS]

You know that I know that. That's why I was angry at those lying Hypocrites.

No need to be angry.

When that hypocrisy (in Balochistan) actually benefits India.

 

[Yusuf]

Civ, maybe nothing will happen, but it sure has brought the Baloch genocide to international focus.

See all big countries pursue their interests. Some small player always takes advantage of it. Pakistan took advantage earlier and now since its in the bad books, it helps the Baloch. Baloch will be happy whatever the reason behind the current resolution.

 

[ejazr]

As LF mentioned, this is just empty rhetoric.

Balochistan is not like East Pakistan and can't be separated as easily. It will be very bloody and very messy and if successful, the PA/ISI institution would most likely have to be splintered or cease to exist. As long the PA/ISI are functioning, they will brutally suppress any independence movements and their nukes will keep foreign powers out from directly intervening the way India did in East Pakistan.

 

[IBSA]

Each day it is clearer that USA are changing the side from Pak ally to India ally, now with political recognition of Baloch people's self-determination . If the Pakistan break down the cooperation with Americans, for whom they will turn out against a intensification of Baloch-Pak conflict? Will seek the Russian supports? I doubt Russians will help Pakistan instead of their usual regional ally, the India. So, Pakistan will have only the Chinese aid. Thus, the birth of an independent Balochistan will mean a victory of USA-India allegiance against the Sino-Paki allegiance.

USA perceived already that a strong Pak limits the India power, what is good for China. A long-standing indo-pak conflict wears out India, which loses important resources sums in defense system and might be applied to strenghten its economical and social development.

The USA strategy to China's containment is on way of the fragmentation of Pakistan. With no doubts the Balochistan, on this Asian, mainly Chinese, century, will become a decisive battle between the powers, as Korea and Viet Nam were in the Cold Age.

 

[Bhadra]

As LF mentioned, this is just empty rhetoric.

Balochistan is not like East Pakistan and can't be separated as easily. .

The division between Pakjabies (Punjabis) Sindhies and Baloch is as sharp as it was between East and West Pakistanis. There is nothing common except the Islamic Nuclear Bomb painted Green.

For India it is a good situation as India may get access to Afghanistan via Balochistan. Same as for the USA and western Countries. USA will also build military bases there to de-fang Pakistan and Iran, control Afghanistan and Central Asia.

But that would also be a permanent threat to India.

 

[Bhadra]

Each day it is clearer that USA are changing the side from Pak ally to India ally, now with political recognition of Baloch people's self-determination . If the Pakistan break down the cooperation with Americans, for whom they will turn out against a intensification of Baloch-Pak conflict? Will seek the Russian supports? I doubt Russians will help Pakistan instead of their usual regional ally, the India. So, Pakistan will have only the Chinese aid. Thus, the birth of an independent Balochistan will mean a victory of USA-India allegiance against the Sino-Paki allegiance.

USA perceived already that a strong Pak limits the India power, what is good for China. A long-standing indo-pak conflict wears out India, which loses important resources sums in defense system and might be applied to strenghten its economical and social development.

The USA strategy to China's containment is on way of the fragmentation of Pakistan. With no doubts the Balochistan, on this Asian, mainly Chinese, century, will become a decisive battle between the powers, as Korea and Viet Nam were in the Cold Age.

It is too premature to say USA is abndoning Pakistan. They are supplying them latest F-16. What is emerging is that the Amirkhans may be engineering creation of Independent Balochistan to secure new bases and access to Afghanistan. Pakistan has gone Red rather than remaining green under USA. That is the problem.

The emerging nexus between Iran and Pakistan also needs to be broken by placing a wedge between them in the form of independent Balochistan .
In ten years time frame one may see Pakistan broken into three or four parts.

India would not need any of the the splinters. India can survive with Pakjaby bomb which would be less dangerous than Sunni Wahhabi bomb.

USA is not tilting towards India but only want a new arrangement within Pakistan.

 

[Bhadra]

Do not blame any one:

 

[Bhadra]

Another diamond on the subject:

 

[Bhadra]

and Richard Clark's frank views:

 

[Mad Indian]

No need to be angry.

When that hypocrisy (in Balochistan) actually benefits India.

You too stop stealing my points...

 

[Mikkis]

US government will not accept the resolution in the congress and they cant make it in UNSC.
Its just a pressure tactics..
Being a baluchi and pukhtun, it is a dream of yankees or anyone who thinks baluchistan may get independence.
Afghans, Iranis and pakistan all of three have the area of baluchistan. so do you mean that US want a war with three of them at the same time. With the backing of CHina anr Russia does US want a war. Including the jihadis of all around the world...Its a joke..
Baluchistan is not Bengal...
Baluchistan comprises of 40% pukhtuns, and punjabis plus makranis, turbatis, qalatis, khuzdars and they even have their own regional languages of their own.
There are tens of Sardars in baluchistan. Only Bugtis and Maris are killing peoples for US, Even mengals are with us.
the local baluch hate sardars, my drivers son got his MBBS degree in the medical of karachi and when he returned to baluchistan he was threatened by sardars that why the hell you complete your education without the permission of our, and then he kicked out frombaluchistan because they dont want educated people in Baluchistan. This is their attitude towards the local.

At this time whoever try to poke her nose in Baluchistan or in Pakistan. pakistan will hit hard to them whoever it was, so plz watch your step...