Pakistan's Economic Prospects

[Jim Street]

is it an opinion as its not the fact! why ?? see.. because the fact is that , the PAK did stop the NATO supply over the issue of apology when pak media brought up the issue of killing of pak soldiers "comparing it with USA's apology in SRK's airport case". Now that's the fact .. give me an anti-thesis!!

I think you are aware of agreements and clauses which are considered and signed before taking any such step of construction.

NATO supply blockade was due to direct attack by an ally and refusing to issue an apology. I don't see the analogy. I hope you know why US didn't give official apology, as such apologies comes with conditions.

If they have to block pipeline on any minor issue, doesn't it mean breach of contract which may cause them more trouble.

 

[Jim Street]

I have to admit this argument of yours is silly

No one liners, come with arguments or refrain from posting if you find my post stupid.

 

[Daredevil]

Well it is obvious strategy. I was talking about susceptibility of underwater pipeline to Pakistani attack. So at any given day, supply through ships are much safer as they can be escorted by our navy while pipeline can be targeted anywhere and can't be protected everywhere. they are stationary targets.

We all know that future war between India and Pakistan won't be more than for few weeks. So if they manage to destroy the pipeline and ceasefire is declared, we will have big problem.

You are right about usage of strategic reserves, blockade etc. while I am focusing more on post war scenario.

Would like to ask, will it be easy to repair pipeline if certain section is destroyed ? If you can post more Pros and Cons of these options and alternatives.

We are digressing from main topic. So it will be last post on this aspect.

Pipe line is susceptible to Pakistani attack but it is also not that easy especially when it is deep sea. Even submarines cannot go much deeper than 700 metres. But pipeline will be not as much susceptible to attack as it would if it were to go through Pakistan. There is also possibility that Pakistan can turn off the tap anytime it wants if the pipeline goes through Pakistan.

And also, repairing pipelines will not be that difficult and is done using robotic submarines as we see this with undersea cables that get snapped now and then.

In case of pipeline attack, we can always fall back upon conventional transport of oil through ships without much difficult. Our spacial depth of country and long coastline affords us that safety.

 

[blank_quest]

Well it is obvious strategy. I was talking about susceptibility of underwater pipeline to Pakistani attack. So at any given day, supply through ships are much safer as they can be escorted by our navy while pipeline can be targeted anywhere and can't be protected everywhere. they are stationary targets.

We all know that future war between India and Pakistan won't be more than for few weeks. So if they manage to destroy the pipeline and ceasefire is declared, we will have big problem.

You are right about usage of strategic reserves, blockade etc. while I am focusing more on post war scenario.

Would like to ask, will it be easy to repair pipeline if certain section is destroyed ? If you can post more Pros and Cons of these options and alternatives.

its difficult in the peace time too...
1.Who will manage the Analytic Hierarchy Process (AHP).
2.What proportion of Personnel from each Party-States will be employed/manned?
3.What mechanism will be Employed for Enviromental/Financial Risk Assessment ?
4.How will the Multi-Criteria Decisional consensus between different Stake-holder arise ?
5.Who will decide the Standard operational Procedures?
6.where will be the grievance redressal between different parties settled?
7. In the eventuality of Externalitities to third party who will bear the compensation?

any idea sirji???

 

[blank_quest]

http://citg.tudelft.nl/fileadmin/Faculteit/CiTG/Over_de_faculteit/Afdelingen/Afdeling_Waterbouwkunde/sectie_waterbouwkunde/people/personal/gelder/publications/papers/doc/042.pdf

 

[LurkerBaba]

Pipe line is susceptible to Pakistani attack but it is also not that easy especially when it deep sea. Even submarines cannot go much deeper than 700 metres. But pipeline will be not as much susceptible to attack as it would if it were to go through Pakistan. There is also possibility that Pakistan can turn off the tap anytime it wants if the pipeline goes through Pakistan.

Overland pipelines frequently targeted but IIRC there hasn't been a single case of a fairly deep undersea pipeline being damaged by anything other than natural causes.

The proposed Oman-India pipeline would be ~3km deep. Out of range of either submarines or depth charges

 

[Jim Street]

^ Same questions are also valid for underwater pipeline except 7th question. I think there will be detailed structure defined by the govts. in any bilateral or tri-lateral agreement.

You seem more knowledgeable about these things as it is reflected from your questions....do provide the answers in context of pipeline through Pakistan and especially underwater pipeline to Iran. What will be possible structure in both cases ?

P.S. Genuine question.

 

[blank_quest]

^ Same questions are also valid for underwater pipeline except 7th question. I think there will be detailed structure defined by the govts. in any bilateral or tri-lateral agreement.

You seem more knowledgeable about these things as it is reflected from your questions....do provide the answers in context of pipeline through Pakistan and especially underwater pipeline to Iran. What will be possible structure in both cases ?

P.S. Genuine question.

frankly speaking I don't have any ready answers .. we have to look for the evidences from the working pipelines from different countries! Then those identified best practices can be tailor suited with our co-parties.

 

[Jim Street]

frankly speaking I don't have any ready answers .. we have to look for the evidences from the working pipelines from different countries! Then those identified best practices can be tailor suited with our co-parties.

I think this also require separate thread where we can know more about various parts of agreements and their structure regarding many other important resources.

 

[blank_quest]

I think this also require separate thread where we can know more about various parts of agreements and their structure regarding many other important resources.

We should have a policy section where we can dissect our policies and analyse in different lights...